Never ending DEBATE: MAXING TH9 including heroes and walls or NOT?

Its been over 6 months since i maxed my Th9 defences, I have time and again thought of just upgrading it to TH10 only my leader #agrippa# to convince me not to do it. I must say maxing your base completely has its advantages and some days you just get bored to do heroes and walls. My heroes are level 23 each now and have done half level 10 walls. I must admit its WORTH IT! Not only i have been winning good defences in each league mostly M3/C1, the base has been doing great in ClanWars.
Heroes make a huge difference to any attack after level20. Many love the queen however its the King who is brilliant. It soaks up all the damage while destroying anything in its path while the Queen finishes it off. Its really helpful in GoWiWi GoWiPe to get 3 stars also with the hybrid attacks. I would recommend sticking it out and maxing it as many in our clans are doing.
If you cant as Hagler'(clanmate) always says ''Get errr done - just upgrade!!!!' and have fun with your game,who cares about the fine nuances of the game.

Cheers!

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Race between Alice and me to max the base first. Lets see who wins!!!
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As Sid said, it is so worth it to max out heroes and walls before TH10, but the main thing it takes is determination and perseverance, you have to be able to not upgrade the town hall whilst most of your builders are free, and you have to stick to just upgrading for a while (as they do take a while). All in all it is worth it and that is my plan for TH9:)

Not worth it to max heroes as they are definitely easier as th10. Half worth it to max walls but proper th10 farming is pretty damn close to th9 farming these days so I personally don't think its worth keeping free builders over, especially since you are almost done.

The only reason to max is some superficial achievement, and you may receive a pat on the back from the clan and forum, but that's it. As I said above the actual utility for you to continue walls with free builders is marginal at best.

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Originally Posted by Gama321

Not worth it to max heroes as they are definitely easier as th10. Half worth it to max walls but proper th10 farming is pretty damn close to th9 farming these days so I personally don't think its worth keeping free builders over, especially since you are almost done.

The only reason to max is some superficial achievement, and you may receive a pat on the back from the clan and forum, but that's it. As I said above the actual utility for you to continue walls with free builders is marginal at best.

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What about the easy th8s? i agree DE raiding doesn't change but walls are definitely easier. Plus as game is maxed at TH10 i think its better to wait it out at 9 and max it to the last brick!!

I'm essentially in the same position as the OP.
I'm halfway done with getting to lvl 9 walls from 8 and heroes at 17 each. Everything else is maxed. I'm not sure how close I'm going to get to maxxing everything, my current goal is all lvl 9 walls and heroes at 25.

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Originally Posted by Sid0817

What about the easy th8s? i agree DE raiding doesn't change but walls are definitely easier. Plus as game is maxed at TH10 i think its better to wait it out at 9 and max it to the last brick!!

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I use to think the same thing. TH9 max def, max troops/spells, lvl 9 walls, lvl 15 hero's, max everything else. Farming DE at TH10, as documented by several guides and players, is better than TH9. I do not have far to go for troops at TH10. If you do not have troops max, then yes stick around TH9 for a while and max out your troops, huge difference. With 240 troop slots, barching/BAM/BAG for loot is easier. Yes there is the loot penalty, most of my loot comes from TH9 and TH10 now anyway, so I won't miss the TH8's. Wall are the most expensive upgrade in the game and the most time consuming. If you want to, max em, I have chose to stop at lvl 9 lego and move up. I could stick around TH9 for 2-3 more months and probably get lvl 10 done, but in 2-3 months I will have most of TH10 max, that will make up for the walls and then I can restart on the wall building process. It is a give and take, but if your troops are not max, ya, stick around TH9. Hero's are much easier to upgrade at TH10, you can only upgrade 3 dark troops at TH10 so the DE will start pouring into Hero's much faster.

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Originally Posted by TheRealchrism

I use to think the same thing. TH9 max def, max troops/spells, lvl 9 walls, lvl 15 hero's, max everything else. Farming DE at TH10, as documented by several guides and players, is better than TH9. I do not have far to go for troops at TH10. If you do not have troops max, then yes stick around TH9 for a while and max out your troops, huge difference. With 240 troop slots, barching/BAM/BAG for loot is easier. Yes there is the loot penalty, most of my loot comes from TH9 and TH10 now anyway, so I won't miss the TH8's. Wall are the most expensive upgrade in the game and the most time consuming. If you want to, max em, I have chose to stop at lvl 9 lego and move up. I could stick around TH9 for 2-3 more months and probably get lvl 10 done, but in 2-3 months I will have most of TH10 max, that will make up for the walls and then I can restart on the wall building process. It is a give and take, but if your troops are not max, ya, stick around TH9. Hero's are much easier to upgrade at TH10, you can only upgrade 3 dark troops at TH10 so the DE will start pouring into Hero's much faster.

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I would like to think I will have the patient to upgrade walls to level 10, but when it comes down to it, I will most likely do the same as you now I've read your post. But what is your view on the no TH10 campaign? I'm not sure what to think of the people that reckon the TH10 upgrade was a mistake and makes things so much worse.

Maxing heroes and walls takes a lot of time and it is pretty hard to do..
And it is hard to do without having a sleeping builder. I already almost finish walls to level 9 around 10 more to go,
Heroes are in mid teens. I still did not experience a sleeping builder.
In terms of warring you do have a slight advantage but if you really check it you are falling behind
If you have a colleague who started at the same time at you. He is already a full th10 with mid heroes while you are still in th9

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Originally Posted by SummerPhoenix

I would like to think I will have the patient to upgrade walls to level 10, but when it comes down to it, I will most likely do the same as you now I've read your post. But what is your view on the no TH10 campaign? I'm not sure what to think of the people that reckon the TH10 upgrade was a mistake and makes things so much worse.

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My view is "to each his/her own". We have made it a point to max out each TH level in our clan before going up. I will be the first to go to TH10, if it is a success, more will follow. Most are sticking around to finish their troops. I concentrated on camps and troops when I went to TH9 and finished those a long time ago. TH9 has been a cakewalk with max troops. I still get 400k-800k raids with 500-5k de. The only difference I will see is when I attack a TH8 ( loot penalty) which I rarely do now. Maxing out troops left my hero's behind a little as mine are 15/16, but I have no problem getting enough de to upgrade them now on a weekly basis. I will only have Minion 6, Golem 5 and LavaHound 3 to upgrade with DE, the rest will go towards hero's and that 3rd DE pump will make a nice addition. I will let the walls come into play once when I can, at 3 mil each for lvl 10, I have other things that I can upgrade first. I wanted to stick around for lvl 10 walls, but I do not see an advantage to it now. They only slow down the enemy, remember. 1500 extra hp for lvl 10 is nice, but I am getting hit by TH10's in war where jump spells and freeze are doing the most damage to me, not the amount of troops busting through a wall. lvl 9 walls at a minimum are a must though. 2 properly placed jump spells can give enemy troops enough access to your base to get 2 stars.

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Originally Posted by jamesserrano9999

Maxing heroes and walls takes a lot of time and it is pretty hard to do..
And it is hard to do without having a sleeping builder. I already almost finish walls to level 9 around 10 more to go,
Heroes are in mid teens. I still did not experience a sleeping builder.
In terms of warring you do have a slight advantage but if you really check it you are falling behind
If you have a colleague who started at the same time at you. He is already a full th10 with mid heroes while you are still in th9

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In wars defence is still the same as a good gowiwi shall two star any Th9 base, though with high level heroes centred and defending it is huge advantage against hybrid attacks. Attacking improves a great deal.
As per the time lost in maxing walls i think one would be able to coverup and end at a better place than someone who upgrades at the same time. Remember at Th10 Gold and Elixir farming is a little more difficult and armies take a longer time to build as one raids th9 and 10.