Finally!! the proof that inactive bases dosn't get removed from the queue!!

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January 16th, 2015
mavios

Finally!! the proof that inactive bases dosn't get removed from the queue!!

To all those who say inactive bases gets removed from queue, explain this!!!

http://i62.tinypic.com/2gujyo2.png
http://i58.tinypic.com/126733s.png
http://i61.tinypic.com/20jspqf.png

As you can see, his sweet victory is 1250 although he got 2462 cups!! meaning this guy hasn't logged in since the 27th of August 2013 when the player profile update was introduced. In fact, I actually think this guy hasn't logged in since at least 23rd may 2013 since his base is maxed (for that update) and doesn't have witches and only one level 2 inferno and his camps are still level 8.
January 16th, 2015
Godzilla86

As said many many many times before: they don't get removed but they get pushed back in queue so far so that they are technically removed.

Got pics of a base that hasn't been attacked in 20 days.

Apperently once in a while they slips such old bases back into the queue.
January 16th, 2015
LachNessMeownster

Quote:

Originally Posted by mavios

To all those who say inactive bases gets removed from queue, explain this!!!

http://i62.tinypic.com/2gujyo2.png
http://i58.tinypic.com/126733s.png
http://i61.tinypic.com/20jspqf.png

As you can see, his sweet victory is 1250 although he got 2462 cups!! meaning this guy hasn't logged in since the 27th of August 2013 when the player profile update was introduced. In fact, I actually think this guy hasn't logged in since at least 23rd may 2013 since his base is maxed (for that update) and doesn't have witches and only one level 2 inferno and his camps are still level 8.

Hopefully this will shut some people up, even though supercell did comment on the matter, people didn't want to believe it. This will cause quite the storm on the forums.
January 16th, 2015
mavios

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla86

As said many many many times before: they don't get removed but they get pushed back in queue so far so that they are technically removed.

Got pics of a base that hasn't been attacked in 20 days.

Apperently once in a while they slips such old bases back into the queue.

I know that, but some still don't. and this base been inactive more than 20 months ago not 20 days :D

Edit: also, it's like the title suggest, about the proof which was never available before other than SC statements.
January 16th, 2015
fette

Inactives just get pushed back, not removed. It's not that strange at all to find one of them every 4 hrs or so... :rolleyes:

But congrats eh :cool:
January 16th, 2015
mavios

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Originally Posted by fette

Inactives just get pushed back, not removed. It's not that strange at all to find one of them every 4 hrs or so... :rolleyes:

But congrats eh :cool:

thx

Don't get me wrong, I get inactives alot, but these usually been inactive for an update or two. but I don't think you can find a base that been inactive for at leasts 20 months every 4 hours. I actually think this is the first I ever stumble on a base that old (been inactive since update ver 4.14)
January 16th, 2015
Godzilla86

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Originally Posted by mavios

thx

Don't get me wrong, I get inactives alot, but these usually been inactive for an update or two. but I don't think you can find a base that been inactive for at leasts 20 months every 4 hours. I actually think this is the first I ever stumble on a base that old (been inactive since update ver 4.14)

It's not really that uncommon.

But how many bases you see with unclicked Christmass presents from last year's Santa trap? One once in a while but others are pushed back so far you don't see them.

So they are technically right when they say inactives aren't removed.
January 16th, 2015
mavios

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla86

It's not really that uncommon.

But how many bases you see with unclicked Christmass presents from last year's Santa trap? One once in a while but others are pushed back so far you don't see them.

So they are technically right when they say inactives aren't removed.

I'm not sure I understand your logic,
so you are saying an inactive base that hasn't been active since 20 months ago is not that uncommon? but a base with presents from 12 months ago is uncommon?

and yes they are right, but no one provided a proof before. not that I know of.
January 16th, 2015
Godzilla86

Quote:

Originally Posted by mavios

I'm not sure I understand your logic,
so you are saying an inactive base that hasn't been active since 20 months ago is not that uncommon? but a base with presents from 12 months ago is uncommon?

and yes they are right, but no one provided a proof before. not that I know of.

No no,

I was trying to say that once every while you see one of those bases, so it's a fact that they aren't completely removed from the search queue.

But the fact you hardly ever see bases with unclicked presents proves a lot of bases are pushed back really far.
Technically they aren't removed, but in practice the result is the same.
January 16th, 2015
mavios

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla86

No no,

I was trying to say that once every while you see one of those bases, so it's a fact that they aren't completely removed from the search queue.

But the fact you hardly ever see bases with unclicked presents proves a lot of bases are pushed back really far.
Technically they aren't removed, but in practice the result is the same.

unclicked christams presents doesn't not mean the base been inactive for so long. I know a friend of mine who on his mini account still got the presents from last year and he is been using his mini in clan wars. so stumbling on these doesn't mean anything really.
January 16th, 2015
WannaBeGoodFarmer

such a waste of a good base
January 16th, 2015
Godzilla86

Quote:

Originally Posted by mavios

unclicked christams presents doesn't not mean the base been inactive for so long. I know a friend of mine who on his mini account still got the presents from last year and he is been using his mini in clan wars. so stumbling on these doesn't mean anything really.

Yeah, not every base with unclicked presents is an inactive. Some weird people just find it fun to safe all that stupid stuff like Santa trap and Halloween traps :p

But I think it's safe to assume that most bases with X-Mass presents actually are inactives.
January 16th, 2015
lulug

I'm not sure that i understand your logic that this base hasn't logged on since the profile update...

yes last time he logged on he could have been at 1250, and now we see he is much higher than that, but i believe that the sweet victory doesn't update until you log back in. So this guy could have been at 1250 2 weeks ago, not necessarily 20 months...?
January 16th, 2015
sj74

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Originally Posted by lulug

I'm not sure that i understand your logic that this base hasn't logged on since the profile update...

yes last time he logged on he could have been at 1250, and now we see he is much higher than that, but i believe that the sweet victory doesn't update until you log back in. So this guy could have been at 1250 2 weeks ago, not necessarily 20 months...?

Yes although it's a coincidence that he was exactly 1250 the last time he logged on and all his levels are upgraded to 2013 standards.

Did anybody doubt that bases were never removed? I have attacked long abandoned bases many times.

Off topic, OP why are you using such an expensive army at such a low trophy level? Practicing?
January 16th, 2015
fennster1969

I never believed inactive bases were removed from the queue. What I find odd is when people say bases get pushed back they say it as if Supercell do this to deliberately make them harder to find. I think reality is that when a player logs off they go to the front of the queue, therefore by default anybody who hasn't logged in will move back in the queue. This is the only practical way the game can work. If you went to the back of the queue evrytime you logged off people would just log in, log out, and effectively get a free shield. I suspect, and only Supercell know the full details of how it all works, that just like there are many leagues within leagues, and global chat rooms, there are also many queues. Some people get lucky finding inactive bases, others don't.
January 16th, 2015
Godzilla86

Quote:

Originally Posted by fennster1969

I never believed inactive bases were removed from the queue. What I find odd is when people say bases get pushed back they say it as if Supercell do this to deliberately make them harder to find. I think reality is that when a player logs off they go to the front of the queue, therefore by default anybody who hasn't logged in will move back in the queue. This is the only practical way the game can work. If you went to the back of the queue evrytime you logged off people would just log in, log out, and effectively get a free shield. I suspect, and only Supercell know the full details of how it all works, that just like there are many leagues within leagues, and global chat rooms, there are also many queues. Some people get lucky finding inactive bases, others don't.

This doesn't make sense. If the game would follow that mechanic ONLY active bases would appear and we would never see an inactive.

They much have a mechanic that limits or witholds a certain percentage of bases coming through.
January 16th, 2015
fennster1969

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Originally Posted by Godzilla86

This doesn't make sense. If the game would follow that mechanic ONLY active bases would appear and we would never see an inactive.

They much have a mechanic that limits or witholds a certain percentage of bases coming through.

Makes sense to me, if as I said there are numerous queues. What you find would depend on which queue you happen to be in, and how many times you hit next. Most of the first twenty or so bases I see have empty collectors, and I usually need to go through a lot of nexting to find a base that hasn't attacked during the season.
January 16th, 2015
Godzilla86

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Originally Posted by fennster1969

Makes sense to me, if as I said there are numerous queues. What you find would depend on which queue you happen to be in, and how many times you hit next. Most of the first twenty or so bases I see have empty collectors, and I usually need to go through a lot of nexting to find a base that hasn't attacked during the season.

I noticed that there are a lot of bases in the queue that have no badge (= inactive) but have totally no resources either.
January 16th, 2015
fennster1969

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla86

I noticed that there are a lot of bases in the queue that have no badge (= inactive) but have totally no resources either.

No badge doesn't necessarily mean inactive. They can log in, collect resources, but not attack. Depends how you define active/inactive. I see an inactive as someone who never logs in.
January 16th, 2015
move4ward

There are a ton of inactive bases in Silver 1-3. It doesn't seem like anybody wants to attack them, after the storages go to zero. They have full collectors, grave stones, no badges, and empty storage.

Most of the collectors are not maxed out, so they don't hold much. It seems that the same bases show up again and again.
January 16th, 2015
Woodsman

Is it not possible that some of these inactives have been plundered so many times that they just don't have the massive resources they used to?

Just a thought
January 16th, 2015
bossi

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Originally Posted by Woodsman

Is it not possible that some of these inactives have been plundered so many times that they just don't have the massive resources they used to?

Just a thought

level 11 mines and collectors keep on getting full making it impossible for inactives to go dry. They will always offer 200k of both resources if they are untouched for 2 days
January 16th, 2015
10kart

great you found inactives, but seems like a complete waste for dark e with the troops you use.
January 16th, 2015
DropDeadFred

We all know they don't get removed they are simply pushed so far back into the matchmaking queue that somebody will find them once every blue moon. The clan we are facing in war has an extreemly inactive member in it. His collectors were full when the war started and his base has not changed now that the war has ended. He still has the same buildings destroyed and his collectors are still full. So they might as well be hidden from the game.

Here is his base as at 16th January 2015.
Attachment 87278
January 16th, 2015
Gunkar

collectors weren't full

means people attacked him tho.. so not out of the queue only once for a Lucky guy
January 16th, 2015
LordAmbreon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla86

As said many many many times before: they don't get removed but they get pushed back in queue so far so that they are technically removed.

Got pics of a base that hasn't been attacked in 20 days.

Apperently once in a while they slips such old bases back into the queue.

Yep exactly, they're just effectively removed from the queue by being put back so far.
January 16th, 2015
DirtyTrickster

that gold grab to base ratio though.

A lot of money spent on that base just to let it sit and rot
January 16th, 2015
johninsj

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Originally Posted by mavios

To all those who say inactive bases gets removed from queue, explain this!!!

Either... lots of Nexts or
Right after a Reset or
Pretty Lucky.

Yep, that explains it. Inactives aren't removed. They're just waaaaaaay back in the queue. That's why loot is AWESOME for TH7 and lower - you can next until your entire barch army is retrained and you find those fat inactives for pretty much free. And why at TH10 you very rarely see one, becuse Nexting costs would kill you.

After a reset (when your replays disappear) all bases are treated the same. Hence the so called golden hour, until all those fat inactives are quickly taken out (and everyone who is on makes a bundle)
January 19th, 2015
mavios

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Originally Posted by 10kart

great you found inactives, but seems like a complete waste for dark e with the troops you use.

I'm maxed on DE. so DE is basically useless to me unless I make troops with it. although I'm using such a heavy DE based army, my DE is growing slowly still
January 19th, 2015
remired

Quote:

Originally Posted by fennster1969

I never believed inactive bases were removed from the queue. What I find odd is when people say bases get pushed back they say it as if Supercell do this to deliberately make them harder to find. I think reality is that when a player logs off they go to the front of the queue, therefore by default anybody who hasn't logged in will move back in the queue. This is the only practical way the game can work. If you went to the back of the queue evrytime you logged off people would just log in, log out, and effectively get a free shield. I suspect, and only Supercell know the full details of how it all works, that just like there are many leagues within leagues, and global chat rooms, there are also many queues. Some people get lucky finding inactive bases, others don't.

This is the best explanation i found so far. Basically i think that more people are playing this game, adding more to the que. Plus more inactives being bashed, also considering the increasing report of b*t user (you know what i mean)
January 19th, 2015
Peedo

lol i only attack inactive bases and it's not so hard to find them.
January 19th, 2015
jakewebs

This doesn't exactly "prove" anything OP. I do understand where you are coming from, and I do find inactive bases often, but on my alt when I do not log on in a month, I notice attacks occuring less and less often. 12 hrs apart, 20 hrs apart, 2 days apart, a week apart etc.
January 19th, 2015
daz258

From my personal experience I can state they do not get removed either.

Last year, around the time elixir walls were announced I 'quit' the game. Returned about 3 months later, and my entire attack log was filled with back to back attacks; one which occurred only hours prior to me logging in again.

Just wish I put my hall in, would have been good for my unbreakable...but I never thought I would come back. :o
January 19th, 2015
Wokki

Yep and still the th 10 players are crying about the loot.
January 19th, 2015
Godzilla86

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Originally Posted by Wokki

Yep and still the th 10 players are crying about the loot.

Don't talk about stuff you know nothing about ;)
January 19th, 2015
antimatter

Why would they hide inactives. I quit the game when i was th 6 since i got bored of the game, but when i got back my account is still there, and i remember i get collector raided a lot. They dont delete them since my account was still intact when i got back.
January 19th, 2015
Godzilla86

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Originally Posted by antimatter

Why would they hide inactives. I quit the game when i was th 6 since i got bored of the game, but when i got back my account is still there, and i remember i get collector raided a lot. They dont delete them since my account was still intact when i got back.

They don't hide ALL the inactives lol, just a large chunk.
January 19th, 2015
Pyroflame

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/5e/5e61...6e7d639098.jpg
January 19th, 2015
iDANglin

Quote:

Originally Posted by mavios

To all those who say inactive bases gets removed from queue, explain this!!!

http://i62.tinypic.com/2gujyo2.png
http://i58.tinypic.com/126733s.png
http://i61.tinypic.com/20jspqf.png

As you can see, his sweet victory is 1250 although he got 2462 cups!! meaning this guy hasn't logged in since the 27th of August 2013 when the player profile update was introduced. In fact, I actually think this guy hasn't logged in since at least 23rd may 2013 since his base is maxed (for that update) and doesn't have witches and only one level 2 inferno and his camps are still level 8.

Dear OP,

Why did you think that it was a common conception that Inactives were removed from the queue? I'm pretty sure the common assumption is that inactives get pushed further and further back in the queue. This means they can still be found, as you have shown. However, the longer a base is inactive the less chance of you running into it. Congrats.
January 19th, 2015
Tinkerbell

Yes, we all know inactives are not removed, they are just pushed to the back of the queue.
This has been answered many times, so there is no need for this thread.

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