Witches or Golems

Ok, I have an iTunes gift card left over from Christmas my fiance got me. I have nothing to spend it on other than CoC....

I use GoWiPe, GoWiWiPe, GoWiWi for clan wars mainly. However, I am relatively new TH9 and don't have my golems or witches upgraded yet, I neglected the golems as a TH8 because we didn't war very often. However, we are trying to do that more and I am focusing on my warring units. I already have level 3 pekkas (4 days left). So, my question is, for the strategies listed above, which should I gem first? I am going to gem them up without farming the DE just because I have the iTunes card and I won't use it on anything else. So, for the ones who have upgraded them, which will give me the best return on my investment sooner? Please keep the negative comments about gemming them out of this convo as it's not needed.

In September I asked on forum the same question...the majority voted witches and so I did them...but I'm convinced that the right choice was golem

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Originally Posted by stimmedNerd

In September I asked on forum the same question...the majority voted witches and so I did them...but I'm convinced that the right choice was golem

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Can you share why? I'm not saying you're wrong because honestly I have no idea. I just would like some reasoning behind the answer.

I know witches are a better troop donation - as I am the highest player in our clan. I won't be donating many witches unless they specifically ask for them, bc most people want the lvl 5 wizards.

Because tanks are more valuable...they protect heroes, pekkas, heroes, witches, heroes, wizards, heroes...moreover...in new strategies involving air troops you firstly send in a golem and heroes to destroy exposed AD

But they don't protect heroes right? haha jk

Thanks for the advice, I wanna hear a few more peoples inputs before I click the button, but I do think that's a good way to go. Either way, I am probably going to gem them, then finish them immediately and then start the other one but won't have enough to gem it to completion.

Golems. They are the only troop used in all of the comps that you mentioned. I hear GoWiWi doesn't even start to shine until your heroes are higher lvl, and I am assuming yours aren't because you said you are a relatively new TH9.

I myself am a mid TH9. Just got golems to 4, doing loons to 6, then going for witches. My AQ is lvl 12 and BK is 10.

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Originally Posted by budawpi

Golems. They are the only troop used in all of the comps that you mentioned. I hear GoWiWi doesn't even start to shine until your heroes are higher lvl, and I am assuming yours aren't because you said you are a relatively new TH9.

I myself am a mid TH9. Just got golems to 4, doing loons to 6, then going for witches. My AQ is lvl 12 and BK is 10.

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Yeah, my BK is going to 9 now and my AQ is 5. Is there a significant jump at any point for the golems like there is for balloons going to 6 or giants to 6? I know the jump for the witches is pretty high, but so far that's 3 for golems and 0 for witches...

Anyone else have an opinion? I would love to hear from a few more people :)

my answer, max golems and go with gowipe. Then after you max witches you can start throwing in witches

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Originally Posted by wormwood1

my answer, max golems and go with gowipe. Then after you max witches you can start throwing in witches

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Yeah, I have level 3 pekkas in a few days and golems are just 1 and wizards are obviously lvl 5.. what is max golem for TH9 lvl 4?

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Originally Posted by JonnyD83

Yeah, I have level 3 pekkas in a few days and golems are just 1 and wizards are obviously lvl 5.. what is max golem for TH9 lvl 4?

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Golem level4 for max TH9
I'll go for golem, later witch.

Golems are more useful to you personally. Witches are only useful if you have something beefy for them to hide behind. They can always be substituted by wizards in an attack. Strong golems will allow you to do a stronger GoWiPe.

If you only have enough gems to get one level of each, it is a toss-up though. The level 1 to level 2 jump in usefulness is greater for witch than golem (because there are only 2 levels for witch and 5 for golems.) Both high level golems and witches are very useful donations in CW. If you are the highest level in clan, lvl 2 witch might be more useful as they are great for both defensive and offensive cc, provided you are willing to fork out the DE to produce so many for the whole clan.

The standard 2 barb 1 wizard 2 witch TH9 cc on attack is wonderful at clearing the defensive cc troops, will help out your clanmates a lot.

I was in your exact position a week ago and I chose witches to insta gem then started golems. Let me tell you lvl 2 witches take gowiwi to a whole new lvl! My golems are lasting to the end of the battle as they are anyway. If you use more gowipe perhaps golems may be the better choice but I don't as the pekkas get wrecked by skele traps and cant be relied upon, so witches FTW!

i have L4 golem and witches 2 ... what i suggest is .. if your golem L 1 then go golem , if your golem L 3 do witches 1 st ... as far as i know golem in gowiwi / gowipe only do as initial distraction ... i dont know bout other golem formation ... L 3 golem is enough to withstand mid th 9 initial attack , but witch L 1 is not good enough to battle mid defense th 9 ....

like above me stated .. witch2 give gowiwi high boost in open base ... more than golem 4

Witches for more skellies!

Well, I fell asleep before I saw these last few comments lol. So, I gemmed golems to 2 and started them to 3 (11D 12H left). Then I will get witches to lvl 2. I prefer GoWiWiPe because I like GoWiPe and GoWiWi so I just prefer to do both haha. I love the witches and the pekkas both. So, for now golems going to 3 then I will do witches to 2 then finish golems to 4.

For those of you who said you run GoWiWi with lvl 2 witches, what's your army comp at TH9?

This reply is a little bit late, thought I don't know if you have already spent your gems.
First off, about how many gems are we talking about?
If you will chose between Golem 1-->2 and Witch 1-->2 my choice would be the witch.
Because then you have got a new maxed troop, and the witch will become 25% better at the upgrade. A golem won't get much better at just one upgrade.

I've got TH9 maxed troops and I use gowipe a lot. 5 witches are 1750 DE, 2x golem = 1350. Makes 3100 per attack. = 6200 for just one clan war. Thus I use just 2 golems per attack, makes only 2700 DE for a clan war.

I hope this gives you more information about these troops. Good luck :)

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Originally Posted by Clemenza

This reply is a little bit late, thought I don't know if you have already spent your gems.
First off, about how many gems are we talking about?
If you will chose between Golem 1-->2 and Witch 1-->2 my choice would be the witch.
Because then you have got a new maxed troop, and the witch will become 25% better at the upgrade. A golem won't get much better at just one upgrade.

I've got TH9 maxed troops and I use gowipe a lot. 5 witches are 1750 DE, 2x golem = 1350. Makes 3100 per attack. = 6200 for just one clan war. Thus I use just 2 golems per attack, makes only 2700 DE for a clan war.

I hope this gives you more information about these troops. Good luck :)

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Yeah, I spent my gems already, however, after reading all of this it makes me wanna drop $20 and do my witches too lol.

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Originally Posted by JonnyD83

Well, I fell asleep before I saw these last few comments lol. So, I gemmed golems to 2 and started them to 3 (11D 12H left). Then I will get witches to lvl 2. I prefer GoWiWiPe because I like GoWiPe and GoWiWi so I just prefer to do both haha. I love the witches and the pekkas both. So, for now golems going to 3 then I will do witches to 2 then finish golems to 4.

For those of you who said you run GoWiWi with lvl 2 witches, what's your army comp at TH9?

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When I GoWiWi I use: ' 2x golems - 10x wallbreakers - 16x wizzards - 5x witches- 16x archers (or 11x archers 1x giant)
I use the giant to lure the CK and if the CK is unlurable then I use two hogs instead of the giant. ( makes 10 archers and 15 wizzards. ) And 1 jump spell and 3x rage spell. Tho if a lot of enemies have archers or wizzards in their CK then I use 1 lightning, 2 rage & 1 jump so I won't waste too much time on luring the CK.

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Originally Posted by JonnyD83

Yeah, I spent my gems already, however, after reading all of this it makes me wanna drop $20 and do my witches too lol.

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Ha, well farming DE isn't too hard with level 6 archers and barbarians. If you buy more gems, then I wouldn't gem the time of the golem to 3. Wait that time and gem some new DE :)

Maybe I'm farming in the wrong league then lol. I go between gold 1 and gold 3 and sometimes crystal 3 and DE is hard to find a lot of.... granted, I'm not solely farming for DE because I still have a few elixir based upgrades I need to do (DE drills to 6, elix storage to 6 and my last spell upgrades).

Gols then witches. We've been practicing the gowiwipe. Replays on youtube; XYZ Wolves.

bobo
TH9. 114. Lvl 12Heroes,
XYZ Wolves
56-6 War

My normal is around 3 golums 3-5 witches, 4-12 wb, 2-5 archers or barbs for luring, rest wizards
sometimes use balloons or hogs for luring also
CC wizards + 1 wb normally

The reason for the variation, is that every base is different, the key to success is planning what works, and taking advantage of weakness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjRdQco3Hb4

Good videos...Maybe I'll just carry witches in my cc for the time being until my golems are 4 and I can do witches to lvl 2

base selection and deployment are very important.
Read the guides on the forum, watch replays and video's learn what works and why it works
Learn from your mistakes, review why it didn't work.
Find a clan with people that can help you do this.

best bases for gowipe are the bases with fewer compartments, correct? more spread out designs..

i prefer 3 golem 5 witch 8/10 wb rest wizard ... 2 rage 1 heal 1 jump or another heal for normal gowiwi ..

if use hogowiwi or gowiwipe then use 2 golem ....

well only do witch and golem alone wont do much if your heroes is low .. make sure to upgrade them ...:o

Golem...as it is the troop you use in each of your attack strategies.

thanks for the advice :)

I'm in a similar spot. Early th9 with king at 10 and queen going to 9

My lvl 6 balloons finish it 2 days and I'm going with witches.

I'm in the top 3 of my clan so I can give them to lower players in war

My pekkas are 3, wizards 5 and golems 1

Witch first definitely.

If we are talking about max level witch vs level 2 golem? Choosing golem will be really stupid.