Opt-out of clan war?

I dont know how many times my spell factory, heroes, barracks, etc were upgrading when mynclan wanted to start a war. Sometimes, its just a matter of getting on more often to build all my troops, but like with heroes and spell factory, it makes mywar attack useless if I dont have them.

So I usually just leave the clan, wait for them to start war, open the clan, I request to join, someone accepts me back, and then we close again... a bit of a pain.

I would like to just be able to "Opt-out" of clan wars from within the clan. This is also useful for players who simply dont like to war often. Sorta like a PvP flag.

Any thoughts?

I like the idea

at the moment a Co or a Leader sends a message 24 hours before pushing war button, anyone who doesn't want to war leaves and comes back 72 hours + later. A right pain.

Yeah exactly. And if you have a clan of 45 -50, and theres 15-20 people who dont want to war... imagine that pain..

PLEASE GIVE US AN OPT-OUT BUTTON!

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Originally Posted by Aaryn

I dont know how many times my spell factory, heroes, barracks, etc were upgrading when mynclan wanted to start a war. Sometimes, its just a matter of getting on more often to build all my troops, but like with heroes and spell factory, it makes mywar attack useless if I dont have them.

So I usually just leave the clan, wait for them to start war, open the clan, I request to join, someone accepts me back, and then we close again... a bit of a pain.

I would like to just be able to "Opt-out" of clan wars from within the clan. This is also useful for players who simply dont like to war often. Sorta like a PvP flag.

Any thoughts?

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Could u plz use the search function there are more threads than I can list on this topic already

FirstSteven is right. there are many threads to be found. There is one right on this page near the bottom.


How it should work...

There should be a button (it can be a new one or the war shield can be modified) that toggles a player as in or out.

Access to hit the button to toggle should go to the leader and the player in question.
---- individual players cannot opt each other in or out
---- its an argument either way to give it to co as well - Good for clans where co is a management job, bad for clans that give it out like candy. (I consider the latter to be a sign of a bad leader)
---- A leader who abuses authority to opt guys in against their wishes are really just hurting their own selves for how they are adding a risk to their war participation. (the guy might then just not attack anyhow, if not seeing eye to eye with leader he wont care)
---- A leader opting a guy out against his wishes has that prerogative to decide who he wants in his war. And its still nicer than just kicking the guy like happens now.

The status of a player is only a factor right at the time a war starts. Instead of just selecting all eligible players from the total population it will just be all eligible players from the opted in group.
---- Can even implement by leveraging the existing eligibility functionality that currently is only driven by a timer.

After that everything works the same. The list of warriors from the clan is rounded to an even 5 via the existing logic and then the matchmaking calculation takes place also using the existing logic.

A player joins a clan with his eligibility set the same way it is today. (He is in unless there is a timer)


Things that would not happen -
...A player cannot add themselves to a war after the fact. If they change their status during a war it makes no difference until the next war when that status is read at startup.
...This would not serve as a way to replace members that take off during war. if they do that then there is the same affect on the war as there is today. Unused attacks stay unused. (it will never change that this just stinks when guys pull that stunt)

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Originally Posted by rwelshjr

FirstSteven is right. there are many threads to be found. There is one right on this page near the bottom.


How it should work...

There should be a button (it can be a new one or the war shield can be modified) that toggles a player as in or out.

Access to hit the button to toggle should go to the leader and the player in question.
---- individual players cannot opt each other in or out
---- its an argument either way to give it to co as well - Good for clans where co is a management job, bad for clans that give it out like candy. (I consider the latter to be a sign of a bad leader)
---- A leader who abuses authority to opt guys in against their wishes are really just hurting their own selves for how they are adding a risk to their war participation. (the guy might then just not attack anyhow, if not seeing eye to eye with leader he wont care)
---- A leader opting a guy out against his wishes has that prerogative to decide who he wants in his war. And its still nicer than just kicking the guy like happens now.

The status of a player is only a factor right at the time a war starts. Instead of just selecting all eligible players from the total population it will just be all eligible players from the opted in group.
---- Can even implement by leveraging the existing eligibility functionality that currently is only driven by a timer.

After that everything works the same. The list of warriors from the clan is rounded to an even 5 via the existing logic and then the matchmaking calculation takes place also using the existing logic.

A player joins a clan with his eligibility set the same way it is today. (He is in unless there is a timer)


Things that would not happen -
...A player cannot add themselves to a war after the fact. If they change their status during a war it makes no difference until the next war when that status is read at startup.
...This would not serve as a way to replace members that take off during war. if they do that then there is the same affect on the war as there is today. Unused attacks stay unused. (it will never change that this just stinks when guys pull that stunt)

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While I agree 100%, SC has said they do not want to do this (don't have the link unfortunately). They did not say it was ruled out but did not want to implement the idea because of the potential bullying. Leaders telling lower members that they had to opt out or be kicked, etc... Again, agree completely with you, just passing info.

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Originally Posted by mbrianp

While I agree 100%, SC has said they do not want to do this (don't have the link unfortunately). They did not say it was ruled out but did not want to implement the idea because of the potential bullying. Leaders telling lower members that they had to opt out or be kicked, etc... Again, agree completely with you, just passing info.

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They did not say that. It was just some disinfo perpetuated by guys that were against the idea. They took a non committal email from Supersteve and cherry picked phrases out of it to make into a different statement. The email in its entirety said they had concerns but were still looking at it. It turned out that all the abuse scenarios were not really real. (Opting out does not give an advantage in war) and that a leader that bullies currently kicks guys so that's not gonna change.

There is another SC post (from Marika) with a list of things they are looking to implement. this is on that list. So far every update since that post came has contained something from that list so we have seen constant action on it right up to the most recent update. We are hoping it gets done in a release soon but the truth is no body that doesn't work for SC really knows anything either way for sure.

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Originally Posted by TheFirstSteven

Could u plz use the search function there are more threads than I can list on this topic already

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Just to let you know, I tried searching, because thats in the guidelines for the forum. I tried searching for anything close to "opting, opt, in, out, dont want to war, choose not to war, participate in war" but could not yeild any results at all. At the time of posting this originally, Ilooked through at least the last 3-4 days of ideas, and couldnt find anything close to opting out of war. I apologize.

Also, I think having the leader/co have control of opting people is a ridiculous idea... its needs to be more like a "pvp flag." The only bullying that would be done, would be from those leaders who ALREADY bully people into dropping trophies to get out a war.

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Originally Posted by Aaryn

Just to let you know, I tried searching, because thats in the guidelines for the forum. I tried searching for anything close to "opting, opt, in, out, dont want to war, choose not to war, participate in war" but could not yeild any results at all. At the time of posting this originally, Ilooked through at least the last 3-4 days of ideas, and couldnt find anything close to opting out of war. I apologize.

Also, I think having the leader/co have control of opting people is a ridiculous idea... its needs to be more like a "pvp flag." The only bullying that would be done, would be from those leaders who ALREADY bully people into dropping trophies to get out a war.

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Yes search function sucks, so don't worry about it.

Im for an opt feature, but if you feel your leader or co are bullies then you need to find a different clan that actually wants you. Leaders should have the right to only take those that can participate in war. If the bully leader didn't have that option they could still kick you out so you weren't in the war. What's the point of having a leader if they can't make those decisions?

I agree! There should be some way to opt out. I often lose people in the clan because they either want to war all the time or rarely. I can't make both sides happy in the clan without it. A+++ Idea!!!