What should be done about balloons

Honestly, balloons should be put down to 5-6 minutes of training time.

Put it into perspective, how come a level 5 hog rider, with 500ish hit points and 100+ damage per second and are not bound to the need to break down walls, need only 2 minutes to train?(my hogs are only level 3 btw, which is a little embarrassing for a well developed th10)

Now here's the balloons

8 minutes

545 hp

162 dps

are exposed to air defense, with a trade off of being out of sight of a cannon or mortar.

Hogs: safe from air defenses (which in my league is usually safe from 280-320 dps *4) which the dps from cannons and mortars as a whole saved isn't even equal two air defenses.

now here's where all these stats make sense:

Air raids are more vulnreble to damage then ground only raids, which makes it harder to get more then one star on attacks, which makes air raids harder to gain trophys.

as an avid looner with every air troop in the game maxed out, it's fair to say that balloons are the most balanced troop the game. All I'm asking for is the ability to raid more then once every 1.5 hours, because with a gowipe it takes only 58 minutes to make the whole army (tweaking it may shorten/greater the training time)

my proposal is to shorten the training time of balloons to make the training time for the mainstream and popular war/pushing ground army and making it equal with the air armies.

This thread has made me want to fly a kite, thanks

Well, first of all, this belongs in Ideas and Feature Requests.

Second of all, I personally think that balloons > hogs no matter what.

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Originally Posted by Drewbiedoo

This thread has made me want to fly a kite, thanks

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Haha is that good or bad? Honestly the stats add up, ground armies, with marginally less exposure to damage then air raids, also take less time to train? This makes no sense, I'm not asking for any buffs or nerfs, as this isn't necessary because the balance of the game is already good, I'm just asking for an opinion and possibly a course of action to make the training times equalized for the air raiders!

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Originally Posted by Crystalis

Well, firs tof all, this belongs in Ideas and Feature Requests.

Second of all, I personally think that balloons > hogs no matter what.

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But hey, are they 4x better, is the advantage to hogs so strong that 4 hogs can go ahead and frolick in my camps before a balloon can see light?

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Originally Posted by benniebosox

But hey, are they 4x better, is the advantage to hogs so strong that 4 hogs can go ahead and frolick in my camps before a balloon can see light?

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I dunno.
First time I ever used hogs, I used 44 of 'em, and they all died in 12 seconds.
Two giant booms, two wizard towers... ugh.
I've been traumatized since then.:p

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Originally Posted by Crystalis

I dunno.
First time I ever used hogs, I used 44 of 'em, and they all died in 12 seconds.
Two giant booms, two wizard towers... ugh.
I've been traumatized since then.:p

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Well hogs and balloons are both nothing to a multi target inferno, and I have lost 30 balloons within 37 seconds, it's all about the learning process.

I use balloons all the time and it's right, balloons are annoying to train. However at low lv's balloons are super OP. So it makes sense about their train time, at least from an early perspective.

You can't compare singular troops like that you have to think of the armies they are used in. Also:

1) Generally there are less balloons in armies than hogs
2) Balloons can 2-shot basically anything (So with a group it's instant) whereas hogs have to bash it for a while
3) Balloons can't be destroyed instantly by traps (Except for maybe 3 AB's)
4) Hogs need a clean up normally as well which means a few wizards, which take just as long as loons
5) Balloons are more versatile whereas hogs get burned down easily without heal spells
6) Hog attacks are very risky and normally either a fail or 3*. Balloon attacks are more age depending on your cup range due to exposed AD's

Is that enough reasons why balloons have a longer training time? Also do you have L6 loons? Cause if not then you don't know the full extent of the power of balloons.

I personally hardly ever use ballons but I only have lvl4 ballons. I'm a newly upgraded to th9. I prefer hogs way over ballons or air raids. I have lvl3 hogs too btw. I think one reason I never use ballon raids is because of the training time vs hogs and other things. One thought I have for hogs taking less time is that they use dark elixir, which is a more valuable resource. So maybe since we are spending a less accessible resource they make the training time lower. Another thing is that you can 4 barracks of ballons going at one time yet only 2 barracks of hogs going at once.