200+ post requirement on IFR

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Originally Posted by MrH

Supercell read every single thread on this forum. Whether it's drowned out straight after or not, it is still read. There is no point in making people post two hundred senseless comments elsewhere in order to be able to try to help the community. Why will a person who has had to post 200 times not post an idea that's already been mentioned? It's certainly not a risk we have to take, sure, there won't be as many useless comments, but there would also be hardly any good ideas to drown in the first place. I don't agree with any kind of 'get rid of the good ideas and the bad ideas. That means less good ideas will be drowned out' approach.

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They read EVERY SINGLE THREAD on the FORUM???0_0 That must take a long time...

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Originally Posted by AlvinSoehendryWijaya

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...new-IFR-member
Rather than have them spam or wait this idea maybe better

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You bring up a good idea in this other thread, but my view has changed yet again on this topic. In that thread somebody said this:

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Originally Posted by Fanboy17

I disagree, the sticky is a total joke most people read it totally misunderstand it and start policing the forums telling people that currently considered ideas are ruled out. People just need to get off their high horse and chill out a bit.

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His words were a little aggressively put but he has a good point. Why discourage the sharing of new ideas on any level? It's a form of censorship against people simply trying to contribute. If anything we should be encouraging people to join and post by making it easier through inviting them to post replies or new threads somewhere more appropriate like in the general section. Not making it harder by requiring x amount of posts to earn the right to speak your mind. And if this "problem" of people posting repeated ideas is too much for the forum moderators to handle then maybe supercell should higher more mods to better handle the expected growth here. Because these ideas are actually helping this game become better. In a sence, doing a part of the game develpoers jobs for them.

I've been on these forums for months and I barely have 30 posts. But I've started two threads that I feel are great ideas (an event where SC gives us an extra builder to use for a temporary time to help players on the fence of deciding if buying another builder would be right for them, and a 6th builder hut availiable at TH9 because of the increased build times of the high level buildings).
Now weather or not these ideas gain traction and are supported, I feel like they are good enough to at least be heard and discussed. Had there been a 25 post requirement I would have never posted these threads and hence never become as involved as I am on these forums.

If enough people genuinely feel that new threads about a ruled out idea are that horrible of an incovience then a simple and fair-enough solution was offered earlier.

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Originally Posted by dashiki

It should be a time requirement not a post requirement.

New accounts should have to wait 24 hours before creating a new thread and perhaps 48 hours before being able to post in IFR period.

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But in my humble opinion I feel that the way to make these forums more organized would be through education. Possibly a sub thread in general for people that want to gain posting experiance to learn how to use some of the more advanced features of these forums such as quoting and fonts and colors.

Even that fresh spawn that derailed by posting something about giving the actual training time of boosted barracks in this very thread. Was that so bad that it caused any damage to this topic? I think not. Somebody politely told him that this isn't the place for that idea and we continued onward with our discussion

Education, not condemnation and censorship, is the key to organization and growth.

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Originally Posted by EmeraldRange

The best solution is to combine post requirements, time requirements and a re-direction to a sticky. But that might be a little hard to programme.

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Something has to be programmed, whether it is difficult or not; it would be worth it in the long run to automate the process of telling new people how this place works. With my limited experience with programing, I'm pretty sure they can afford to put in the custom 'newbie catch' idea I suggested into the system. After that, it is just content work and basic page redirects for the intro webpage they will be viewing.

But even though making the intro screen would be very easy, in a technical sense, it would be hard in a writing sense, as the content and presentation of the info would be absolutely crucial in making the whole idea work. It has to be interesting and informative and keep the reader's attention almost fully from beginning to end; which I admit that maybe a tall order. :(

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

Something has to be programmed, whether it is difficult or not; it would be worth it in the long run to automate the process of telling new people how this place works. With my limited experience with programing, I'm pretty sure they can afford to put in the custom 'newbie catch' idea I suggested into the system. After that, it is just content work and basic page redirects for the intro webpage they will be viewing.

But even though making the intro screen would be very easy, in a technical sense, it would be hard in a writing sense, as the content and presentation of the info would be absolutely crucial in making the whole idea work. It has to be interesting and informative and keep the reader's attention almost fully from beginning to end; which I admit that maybe a tall order. :(

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I think an intro screen would really help, because I notice that most people that post their ideas are doing it to improve the game. While a post requirement might encourage them to see other threads, as bowsta mentioned, its
like trophies- not a great indicator. A time requirement might make less complainers, but it might not affect anybody at all. A view requirement wouldn't work because really rushies will open, close, open, close some threads to get the idea.

So the intro screen should do a lot, guiding them on the forum rules.

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Originally Posted by Bowsta

You bring up a good idea in this other thread, but my view has changed yet again on this topic. In that thread somebody said this:



His words were a little aggressively put but he has a good point. Why discourage the sharing of new ideas on any level? It's a form of censorship against people simply trying to contribute. If anything we should be encouraging people to join and post by making it easier through inviting them to post replies or new threads somewhere more appropriate like in the general section. Not making it harder by requiring x amount of posts to earn the right to speak your mind. And if this "problem" of people posting repeated ideas is too much for the forum moderators to handle then maybe supercell should higher more mods to better handle the expected growth here. Because these ideas are actually helping this game become better. In a sence, doing a part of the game develpoers jobs for them.

I've been on these forums for months and I barely have 30 posts. But I've started two threads that I feel are great ideas (an event where SC gives us an extra builder to use for a temporary time to help players on the fence of deciding if buying another builder would be right for them, and a 6th builder hut availiable at TH9 because of the increased build times of the high level buildings).
Now weather or not these ideas gain traction and are supported, I feel like they are good enough to at least be heard and discussed. Had there been a 25 post requirement I would have never posted these threads and hence never become as involved as I am on these forums.

If enough people genuinely feel that new threads about a ruled out idea are that horrible of an incovience then a simple and fair-enough solution was offered earlier.


But in my humble opinion I feel that the way to make these forums more organized would be through education. Possibly a sub thread in general for people that want to gain posting experiance to learn how to use some of the more advanced features of these forums such as quoting and fonts and colors.

Even that fresh spawn that derailed by posting something about giving the actual training time of boosted barracks in this very thread. Was that so bad that it caused any damage to this topic? I think not. Somebody politely told him that this isn't the place for that idea and we continued onward with our discussion

Education, not condemnation and censorship, is the key to organization and growth.

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It's censorship, that's true. That's why ive kind of shifted gears from a post requirement to an intro welcome screen tell new members how to follow forum etiquette. What most of the older forumers don't realise is that every new fresh spawn (except the spambots of course) that comes on here with a "genius" idea, genuinely thinks it is a genius idea, when they are failing to consider it. I try to be nice when telling them to read the stickies, but not everyone is (including me sometimes). That's why an intro page would be the best, as it can tell them to read the stickies, do a quick search and all the stuff so that they know what they would have otherwise been told so by some of us.

The ideas we are trying to "censor" aren't helping the game too much. We are talking about topics that Supercell has already decided is improbable (most likely impossible) to be implemented. And I believe that most people don't understand what a stickie is when they first come here. I, myself, didn't realise what they were until I read a thread elaborating on the ruled out stickie (justinhu's sticky 2.0).

Now I've decided that the best solution is to have the comprehensive forumming guide be shown to (or shoved at) new members so that they can see the forum rules, how the community works and the proper etiquette. (The subthread in general you mentioned exists, it is in New to Clash).

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

Please re-read the thread before referring to me again. You are falsely accusing me of things I never said, nor agreed to.

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If you never said that you want people to have to post 200 times before being able to share their ideas with us, then why is the original name of the thread '200+ Post Requirement on IFR'? I haven't falsely accused you of anything.

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

As bad as that sounds, that maybe needed. You will have the few people complain about actually reading the rules and why there is a 'stupid restrictions' on post count before they can make a thread. But all in all, that maybe a good idea. I do agree that 50 maybe a better requirement than 200. Even with regular posting, 200 will take a long while to do! Believe me!

But this could lead to people posting 10char posts in random threads or in the same thread, just to get thier 'awesome' idea heard... which likely is already ruled-out anyway, but they are too obsessed with getting that post count up, that they don't stop and think (for once).

If added, it would kind of require that someone keeps an eye out for newbies spamming to get thier post count up. Would be easy to spot, since the threads would have a ton of replies from them, and checking their activities shows a bunch of useless posts with 'awesome idea, I like it', or the like repeated over and over again.

I don't know... It wholly depends on the newbe's psychology. Do players that actually have the idea and drive to post here act that way when faced with that requirement? If not, this would be a great idea to help slow down those people caught up with an idea. An idea that unfortunately is likely a waste of time. :( Not to say they are idiots, they just don't know it is a waste. They want to help, and didn't think that it could have came up independently elsewhere a long time ago.

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I think This is a good response that paints the picture well.

It is correct that we will have that guy that is tunnel visioned on stating his idea and will respond something (I.E. 10 chars....) on random posts to get to that point. But that will be lower, a lot of guys getting their posts in will run across the fantastic new idea being spoken to in an older post and can add themselves to that convo right away without having to wait until they hit their quota. As far as the few that get all the way to their quota just banging onto posts paying that little attention, well that is why our trolls here do come in handy sometimes.

Regarding the above debate on who said what number it is hard to tell. I see 200, 50, 15, and 25 in my first glance. I think the number can be negotiable but the concept is good.

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Originally Posted by MrH

If you never said that you want people to have to post 200 times before being able to share their ideas with us, then why is the original name of the thread '200+ Post Requirement on IFR'? I haven't falsely accused you of anything.

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If you followed along, especially early on before the original poster edited thier first post, you would know that the person originally suggested the restriction to making a new thread in this part of the forum was that a user had to have had 200 posts or over before making a new thread here. If you checked, my first comments were of shock and modest protest against such a high limit.

Your quotation and comments were highly suggestive that I was the one that still wanted such a thing. Not even the person that started this is still wanting to have the 200 post restriction.

So please re-read things before you make any more bad assumptions.

I've already ruled this idea out. Sticky will be updated shortly.

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Originally Posted by Megalomania

I've already ruled this idea out. Sticky will be updated shortly.

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LOL, good luck with that.

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