Mano a Mano Illustris v 2200 Trophy Players

So, here's food for thought.

I've been generally farming at 2150-2250 since these lovely badges came out (cough). And I leave my TH outside, completely unprotected for any Trophy chaser to get a free gift.

But, I keep getting hit by people trying for more than the free gift. And, the saddening thing is... their attack strategies are really, really poor in comparison to farmers in the 1300-1500 trophy.

See below:

1. Top raid, 105 barbs, 130 archers and 3 giants for 4-5k total loot. One would think he could have just used 3 archers for trophy and stopped there (similar to the second raid).

2. Second raid... OK, this makes sense. (clap, clap)

3. Third raid: 200 archers and 1 Thor... for 15k or so. Really?

http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/...psc92c139d.jpg



At 2600 Trophy the other week, I was getting hit by the ever famous GoWiPe strategy with four rage spells used per raid, and often, they attacked from the opposite side of my UNPROTECTED TH! I was very happy that some got to the 1 star 50% dmg, but geez, they could have gotten 2 stars, if they hit from the unprotected TH side... sigh.


Illustris... One Step at a Time...

Well, I guess 2200 is where bad trophy hunters go? The are too high to be farmers, but too low to be crack trophy hunters.

Though, those are only two attacks, and they aren't particularly strong armies. It's not really hard evidence that the players there are incompetent (not that I would know, my highest trophy has only ever been 1800).


And, "Mano a Mano" is one of those dirty "foreign" things, so I'm no expert, but I do not think it means what you think it means.

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Originally Posted by Illustris

So, here's food for thought.

I've been generally farming at 2150-2250 since these lovely badges came out (cough). And I leave my TH outside, completely unprotected for any Trophy chaser to get a free gift.

But, I keep getting hit by people trying for more than the free gift. And, the saddening thing is... their attack strategies are really, really poor in comparison to farmers in the 1300-1500 trophy.

See below:

1. Top raid, 105 barbs, 130 archers and 3 giants for 4-5k total loot. One would think he could have just used 3 archers for trophy and stopped there (similar to the second raid).

2. Second raid... OK, this makes sense. (clap, clap)

3. Third raid: 200 archers and 1 Thor... for 15k or so. Really?

http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/...psc92c139d.jpg



At 2600 Trophy the other week, I was getting hit by the ever famous GoWiPe strategy with four rage spells used per raid, and often, they attacked from the opposite side of my UNPROTECTED TH! I was very happy that some got to the 1 star 50% dmg, but geez, they could have gotten 2 stars, if they hit from the unprotected TH side... sigh.


Illustris... One Step at a Time...

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The first and third attackers were likely trying to copy the archer barb trophy hunting combo, and the all archer combo. Both of which are not all too popular, and are on;y successfully used by a handful of players above 3000 trophies. In both of these strategies the attacker aims for 50%. I found that at 2000-2300 you would find lots of nooby players attempting to use this strategy, as you have discovered.

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Originally Posted by Djemerson13

The first and third attackers were likely trying to copy the archer barb trophy hunting combo, and the all archer combo. Both of which are not all too popular, and are on;y successfully used by a handful of players above 3000 trophies. In both of these strategies the attacker aims for 50%. I found that at 2000-2300 you would find lots of nooby players attempting to use this strategy, as you have discovered.

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But why aim for 50% when he could have just takin the free TH and went looking for an easier base with more outside buildings to get him to 50% faster that would of been more effective IMO

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Originally Posted by ivanmostdope

But why aim for 50% when he could have just takin the free TH and went looking for an easier base with more outside buildings to get him to 50% faster

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Because they get a little caught up in themselves for making it that far and think they can do more than they can.

Ah, yes, let's see in response to the various comments:

1) Sadly, these sort of attacks happen way, way more than just the two in this screen shot. I just logged in and saw it yet again, so decided to post. Hmm, maybe 2-4 a day of these sort of silly attacks? Err, take my word for it.

2) And, no, this mentality does not stop at 2200, as I said before, it continues to 2600 where people burn 4 rage spells and golems, pekkas, etc... (translated a lot of DE and elixir) and miss the external, unprotected TH. It's almost as if many trophy chasers have "blinders" on and just assume the TH is centrally placed. Or, it's worse... As I said in the OP:

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Originally Posted by Illustris

At 2600 Trophy the other week, I was getting hit by the ever famous GoWiPe strategy with four rage spells used per raid, and often, they attacked from the opposite side of my UNPROTECTED TH! I was very happy that some got to the 1 star 50% dmg, but geez, they could have gotten 2 stars, if they hit from the unprotected TH side... sigh.

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Illustris the Reminder

I've had a few guys spend 2 minutes trying to take down my exposed town hall with a couple of archers, then decide they want to go full ♥♥♥♥♥♥ with a minute or less to spare and walk away with next to nothing and a bruised ego. It depends on the player though. If the player isn't the sharpest cupcake they may not even study your base properly in the first 30 seconds and not realise your TH is exposed on the other side at any trophy level.

Funny--I recently took my mid level TH 8 farming village up from its normal range of 1400ish to 1900ish. When I was ready to come back down, I took my TH back out and the hilarity ensued. Lots of ridiculous attacks, on the opposite side of my free TH even (no idea why). They would randomly throw 100 barbs and 100 archers at me, absent any strategy--to absolutely no avail. There were, of course, folks that took the TH with a couple of troops and left quietly, and there was also the occasional very well executed farming attack with good troops/heroes/spells/strategy.

At 1400, if my gold is full and/or DE is high, I can expect to get thumped properly. :)

I haven't had a real attack against me in a month or two. It may be less the trophy range you are in than that TH9 defense is now so strong against farming armies that most good players aren't foolish enough to attack leaving only the poor players who don't know how to measure the strength of their armies against opposing bases to fill my defense log.

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Originally Posted by Hannibal

I haven't had a real attack against me in a month or two. It may be less the trophy range you are in than that TH9 defense is now so strong against farming armies that most good players aren't foolish enough to attack leaving only the poor players who don't know how to measure the strength of their armies against opposing bases to fill my defense log.

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I'm starting to see the trend as well, sadly. :(

Talking about serious attacks and revenges, the key to farming/attacking players is really picking your opponents. If you see sleeping builders with uncollected mines, you know the player has most likely quit. If you see 5 builders all busy on stuff, you know that player is super active and will revenge anyone who attacks their base, so brace yourself for it.

I prepare myself whenever I encounter bases like these by placing giant bombs and seeking air mines on my base when I usually don't. Although, in my case, I've only had 2-3 serious attacks for the past 3 months because I usually never attack any TH9 or super decked out TH8 bases unless they are carrying 300k+ gold.

OP, i noticed location of your TH.

While farming I learned a while back that there are quite a few dim bulbs playing this game. If you don't set ur TH in the absolutely most obvious place possible. Plenty of trophy hunters will attack you, totally missing the opportunity for a freebie TH kill, and through osmoses they will end up grabbing more loot then they really intended. They lose, and you get no shield!

Generally placing ur unguarded TH to the very bottom of village is best practice. verify by open and closing the game a few times. This will simulate the first thing they see. Also keep in mind the default zoom lvl during attack mode (see what they see) when hitting the next button on find a match. The idea is to make sure your unguarded TH is in-view with out them ever touching their screen to look around, and hitting next to skip u.

Make it as OBVIOUS as you possibly can for them.

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Originally Posted by Kansas

OP, i noticed location of your TH.

While farming I learned a while back that there are quite a few dim bulbs playing this game. If you don't set ur TH in the absolutely most obvious place possible. Plenty of trophy hunters will attack you, totally missing the opportunity for a freebie TH kill, and through osmoses they will end up grabbing more loot then they really intended. They lose, and you get no shield!

Generally placing ur unguarded TH to the very bottom of village is best practice. verify by open and closing the game a few times. This will simulate the first thing they see. Also keep in mind the default zoom lvl during attack mode (see what they see) when hitting the next button on find a match. The idea is to make sure your unguarded TH is in-view with out them ever touching their screen to look around, and hitting next to skip u.

Make it as OBVIOUS as you possibly can for them.

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Haha, a worthy thought...

Shrug, I would have thought mine was rather obvious in the NW quadrant... but heck, who knows... But, appreciate the tip!


Illustris the Obscure TH

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Originally Posted by Hannibal

I haven't had a real attack against me in a month or two. It may be less the trophy range you are in than that TH9 defense is now so strong against farming armies that most good players aren't foolish enough to attack leaving only the poor players who don't know how to measure the strength of their armies against opposing bases to fill my defense log.

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Very true. Had a single serious attack against me in the past several weeks and it was a crazy 44 raged balloons one. It wasn't a revenge. Apparently this is the guy's "farming" setup. Go figure.

So, I'll post the subsequent raids against me post the OP pic... as I think the next two makes the point.

Note in the pic below that the third raid is the top raid of the original picture, so since making thread, I've had two more attacks against me.

The middle one is a perfect example of how to efficiently snipe trophies. Use an AQ (good distance away from an unprotected TH) and END the battle before she takes any damage. Perfect. Clap, clap. No elixir burn or anything even from 3 archers, etc, etc. And your Queen is ready for the next battle. Perfect, clap, clap.

The top raid (most recent) is yes... here we go again the silly overkill against an unprotected TH... I get so many of these, it's really saddening about the future of mankind...

By the way, I don't track the stats, but from my gut feel, I'd say that around 2200-2300 trophy, less than 5% of attackers use their AQ to efficiently snipe free trophies as the fella above did. After 2500-2600, it drops to less than 1% to zero. On the other hand, the overkill from archers/barbs fades and becomes 11 max dragons or the new GoWiPe strategy, often ignoring the unprotected TH.

Illustris the Unprotected

P.S. Gotta love the top fella's name, haha

http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2803335a.jpg

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Originally Posted by Illustris

So, I'll post the subsequent raids against me post the OP pic... as I think the next two makes the point.

Note in the pic below that the third raid is the top raid of the original picture, so since making thread, I've had two more attacks against me.

The middle one is a perfect example of how to efficiently snipe trophies. Use an AQ (good distance away from an unprotected TH) and END the battle before she takes any damage. Perfect. Clap, clap. No elixir burn or anything even from 3 archers, etc, etc. And your Queen is ready for the next battle. Perfect, clap, clap.

The top raid (most recent) is yes... here we go again the silly overkill against an unprotected TH... I get so many of these, it's really saddening about the future of mankind...

By the way, I don't track the stats, but from my gut feel, I'd say that around 2200-2300 trophy, less than 5% of attackers use their AQ to efficiently snipe free trophies as the fella above did. After 2500-2600, it drops to less than 1% to zero. On the other hand, the overkill from archers/barbs fades and becomes 11 max dragons or the new GoWiPe strategy, often ignoring the unprotected TH.

Illustris the Unprotected

P.S. Gotta love the top fella's name, haha

http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2803335a.jpg

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Ahh , ok, I can see a F4G cc there, shame less plug?

On topic, after speaking with couple people who trophy pushed alot, and from personal experience, putting the th outside increases the chance of 2 stars. Drop 5 arch next to the th, then use the rest of your army to get 50%. Sad tho, it just needs a bit of skill. TH inside would just give them some hard time getting the second star, imo. As you said, all depends on the range

Illy theres a few there that are in the 40%'s could it be possible they didn't realise that with a tiny bit more skill AND noticing your TH is outside they could have had two stars - sad really.

the people up at that range are probably just people under level 50 trying to get lots of trophies, ive seen many of under leveled trophy hunters. with this said maybe going up to 2000 trophies will actually benefit me :) im at 1300 trophies at the competition is ok, but it could be better. on the other hand, i dont want some guy over level 100 destroying me. ill just stick around 1300 then , lol.

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Originally Posted by Fakhouri

Ahh , ok, I can see a F4G cc there, shame less plug?

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Hmm good point, I should have rotated to Farming4Farming and taken the screen pic there. Hmm, next time, muhahaha...

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Originally Posted by Daddy

Illy theres a few there that are in the 40%'s could it be possible they didn't realise that with a tiny bit more skill AND noticing your TH is outside they could have had two stars - sad really.

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Indeed, Sir Daddy, indeed. Either that, or of course, just use a Hero or 2-3 archers and take the easy cups from an unprotected TH. There's nothing more saddening (not being sarcastic) than watching a trophy chaser get to 49%, burn all his troops, and ignore the free unprotected TH.

I guess an analogy would be having your tanks unprotected, and watching a farmer go after your TH, ignoring the gold and elixir tanks...



Illustris the Obvious Observer