almost maxed town hall 9 in need of a little help!

okay i post this message because i need a little bit of help tweaking my attack strategy for war. i can 2 star just about any th9 base out there with my gowiwi or gowipe but i seriously can not remember the last time i 3 starred a base in clan wars. all my troops are maxed except level 3 golems instead of lvl 4 and my heroes are level 10 each. someone please give me some advice on how to get that third star with gowiwi or gowipe id like to start getting the third star. i usually end with around 60-70 % destroyed so I'm not really close

The only time I 3 starred a max TH9 is with GoWiWi as a TH9.

1 lightning, 1 heal, 2 rage.

I use lightning on war CC because I don't want to lose many troops getting rid of the CC. It then takes me 2-3 barbarians to get rid of almost anything (4 minions on valk, 3 barbarians on wiz and 10 archers on dragons).

I keep around 8 wiz and as many archers I can for the end. My CC is 7 wiz and 2 archers.

I use the heal so my tank can go up to the center and then some.

When the outer edge defenses target the center, I deploy a line of wiz on the other side of the base to clean up.

The wiz at some point will die, but I almost every time have 2-3 witches left and they finish the rest.

I'd say it works 20% of the time on a maxed base. Not that good. But I get a consistent 2 stars anyway.

Pekkas are too unpredictable.

I'm working on my lavaloon to see if I get a better percentage. Have to test this a lot

I mostly 2 star with those armies as well. I have 3 starred if I keep a few wiz at the end. It really depends on the layout.

I have 3 starred with hogs and holowiwi if the base layout is designed for that. Lots of variable.

The last time I 3 starred at tough th9 in wars actually was with gowiwipe. I threw in 2 lvl 3 pekka and took out a golem and a witch. Added a few more wiz and went with 2 heal and 2 rage. I'll bring a jump if the walls are close enough for me to jump over 2 when dropping the jump between walls.

I personally don't like Gowiwi or Gowipe only armies because they seem to mostly be a 2 star attack. My best 3 stars have come from a Gohowiwi or Gowiwi-Loon for Gowi** style attacks. Otherwise it's been Holowiwi and more recently LavaLoon. I'm very new to using Lavaloon in war but have had the best/easiest time 3 staring or coming very close. I only mention coming very close because a few slight adjustments in the army comp and deployment would have 3 starred the bases I only managed an 85-90%. Watch videos, practice new army comps in raids, constantly adjust your approach and don't be afraid to fail a practice raid vs. a strong base. It's about the only way you'll sort out the changes you need to make to get that 3rd star.

so you guys think i should try to avoid my pekkas? i like the idea of saving some wizards for the back side of the base to clean some stuff up on the back side

I am in the same position as you. Its kind of disheartening.

Here are a few things I have determined. Its not reasonable to expect a 3 star unless you have 3 of these 5 things going for you:

1. The other base is weak for its TH level or have obviously exploitable flaws.
2. You are maxxed offensively for your TH level. At TH 9 this means all troops in the army are maxed, all 4 spells, loaded CC, and both heros awake and approaching level 30.
3. You have incredible (not just above average) skill (like The Hulk Files).
4. You have knowledge of all the trap locations because it is a clean up attack in war (or because you ghosted the base).
5. You cook a custom army for the target base and plan the attack in great detail.

Of them all I think 2 is the most important. 4 is pretty key too. A lot of the raid posted by OneHive and Hulk are clean up attacks.

I was sort of spoiled by using dragons at TH7-8.

Once last thought: if you want 3 stars you need to find a way to make walls not matter: Hogs, loons, hounds, doubel jump spells, etc.

Let me know if you discover the secret to 3 stars!

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Originally Posted by jpozan1

so you guys think i should try to avoid my pekkas? i like the idea of saving some wizards for the back side of the base to clean some stuff up on the back side

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No way, definitely keep using PEKKAs. I've never had a problem with PEKKA pathing, just clean up side buildings so they don't run into the base.

GoWiPe is great for busting into a base, but it can struggle to clean up on the back end. Depending on the base, sometimes a well placed jump spell can give the push you need to finish it off. Other times, lvl6 loons can be dropped on the remaining buildings after the AD's are knocked out. Regardless, the attack itself needs to be solid. You should always be luring whenever it's not overly impossible to do so. Deployment of golems/wiz should be very fast, with PEKKA not too far behind. Hero level is important in taking out maxed bases as well, so you will find yourself struggling if your heroes are still in the single digits.

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Originally Posted by Leoj

I am in the same position as you. Its kind of disheartening.

Here are a few things I have determined. Its not reasonable to expect a 3 star unless you have 3 of these 5 things going for you:

1. The other base is weak for its TH level or have obviously exploitable flaws.
2. You are maxxed offensively for your TH level. At TH 9 this means all troops in the army are maxed, all 4 spells, loaded CC, and both heros awake and approaching level 30.
3. You have incredible (not just above average) skill (like The Hulk Files).
4. You have knowledge of all the trap locations because it is a clean up attack in war (or because you ghosted the base).
5. You cook a custom army for the target base and plan the attack in great detail.

Of them all I think 2 is the most important. 4 is pretty key too. A lot of the raid posted by OneHive and Hulk are clean up attacks.

I was sort of spoiled by using dragons at TH7-8.

Once last thought: if you want 3 stars you need to find a way to make walls not matter: Hogs, loons, hounds, doubel jump spells, etc.

Let me know if you discover the secret to 3 stars!

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I kind of disagree with you on all but no.5

I was able to 3 star a near max Th9 with Level 2 Golems and Level 4 Hogs because I was able to plan the attack well. And the base wasn't poorly designed either. Well poorly enough to be 3 starred but still.. I don't think you need max troops to accomplish a 3 star attack. You have to custom fit your army composition to the base you're attacking. But before that you need to do adequate research and practice before you expect to 3 star bases in war.

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Originally Posted by lsarofeen

I kind of disagree with you on all but no.5

I was able to 3 star a near max Th9 with Level 2 Golems and Level 4 Hogs because I was able to plan the attack well. And the base wasn't poorly designed either. Well poorly enough to be 3 starred but still.. I don't think you need max troops to accomplish a 3 star attack. You have to custom fit your army composition to the base you're attacking. But before that you need to do adequate research and practice before you expect to 3 star bases in war.

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So you are saying that ONE time you got a 3 star attack? Because that isn't really what I mean.
Or are you saying you can consistently 3 star "near max" town hall 9s? Because, no offense, I highly doubt that if you don't have maxxed troops.

Also, when you say near max you mean defensively or you mean with lava walls and level 30 heros?