Allow Attacks after a Clan War Has Ended

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January 7th, 2015
Gatrdoc

Allow Attacks after a Clan War Has Ended

You know how you have always wanted to see how a different attack strategy or troop/spell composition may have performed against an opponent in a Clan War? My suggestion is to allow the attack page to remain open for a period of 6 hours after a war has ended so you can pick targets and try different strategies against superior targets you may not go after in the course of a clan war for fear of losing. This would allow you to improve your attack skills and learn how different troops respond in different scenarios. Obviously the war is over at this point and it would not affect anything with the war. This gives the opportunity to test yourself in war scenarios which you obviously don't get in multiplayer situations. Base layouts and clan castle compositions are typically completely different. You can even make it like a boost. For one gem you can attack a base in the war room after the war has ended.
January 7th, 2015
SuperMarc

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Originally Posted by Gatrdoc

You know how you have always wanted to see how a different attack strategy or troop/spell composition may have performed against an opponent in a Clan War? My suggestion is to allow the attack page to remain open for a period of 6 hours after a war has ended so you can pick targets and try different strategies against superior targets you may not go after in the course of a clan war for fear of losing. This would allow you to hone your attack skills and learn how different troops respond in different scenarios. Obviously the war is over at this point and it would not affect anything with the war. This gives the opportunity to test yourself in war scenarios which you obviously don't get in multiplayer situations. Base layouts and clan castle compositions are typically completely different. You can even make it like a boost. For one gem you can attack a base in the war room after the war has ended.

Some clans do nonstop wars, this would slow them down and I don't see the need of this. If you want to hone your attack skills just raid a village
January 7th, 2015
ROM4N

Sounds a good idea. Wars have come along way since they began. Or maybe we could attack our clanmates. No loot should be gained from either of these. Cost of armies is lost
January 7th, 2015
james65

I think this is a great idea. I think your last statement is the best way. Making it a gem value to attack instead of just a blank time stamp. This would give anyone who wants a chance to practice different attack strategies.
January 7th, 2015
ROM4N

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Originally Posted by SuperMarc

Some clans do nonstop wars, this would slow them down and I don't see the need of this. If you want to hone your attack skills just raid a village

Wouldn't slow down wars as it will be open during next war prep day. For example
January 7th, 2015
james65

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Originally Posted by SuperMarc

Some clans do nonstop wars, this would slow them down and I don't see the need of this. If you want to hone your attack skills just raid a village

The problem I see with this over war attacks is that you can not plan your troops according to the base, instead you have to just build troops and hope you find a base that fits. Just my opinion
January 7th, 2015
Xswamp

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Originally Posted by james65

The problem I see with this over war attacks is that you can not plan your troops according to the base, instead you have to just build troops and hope you find a base that fits. Just my opinion

Thats not how i do it, i always scout the base and build my troops according to the base design....
January 7th, 2015
BiffBangPow

I quite like the idea. It would certainly put an end to the eternal question "should i have done that differently?"
January 7th, 2015
Gatrdoc

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Originally Posted by Xswamp

Thats not how i do it, i always scout the base and build my troops according to the base design....

Your talking about the war room. The poster you are responding to is just talking about day to day raids when you hit the attack button. You can't scout them, you get what is given to you.
January 7th, 2015
Gatrdoc

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Originally Posted by SuperMarc

Some clans do nonstop wars, this would slow them down and I don't see the need of this. If you want to hone your attack skills just raid a village

Wars don't have to slow down. You can view the map of the prior war already when begin a new one. It's no different. You can still start a new war but go back to the previous one and attack that village you were afraid to during the war.
January 7th, 2015
ThANaT0s94

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Originally Posted by BiffBangPow

I quite like the idea. It would certainly put an end to the eternal question "should i have done that differently?"

Prove to you clanmates on "how it should have happened." This could help Leaders and Co leaders decide on if a member is worthy for war. It could also teach players how they should look at a base or how to approach the base. It could make Clan wars more strategetic than massive Dragon attack and lightning spells.
January 7th, 2015
Gatrdoc

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Originally Posted by ThANaT0s94

Prove to you clanmates on "how it should have happened." This could help Leaders and Co leaders decide on if a member is worthy for war. It could also teach players how they should look at a base or how to approach the base. It could make Clan wars more strategetic than massive Dragon attack and lightning spells.

I'm a lvl 103 TH 10 and I think would be great for the members lower in the clan or even ourselves. Sometimes we get way overmatched. I'm talking 3 lvl 103 and above in our clan vs 10 in another. Be great to develop strategy to attack those a the much higher level. How to approach walls, what spells to use for certain style bases. Always hate to see just the mass dragon or hog attacks in the lvl 8 and 9 th's.
January 7th, 2015
hawdog

The idea is nice, but the execution could use some work. It should hurt the "wallet" to do such an attack (or a few of these attacks). Not only should you lose the elixir/DE it cost to build that army and spells, but it should also cost more than 1 gem. Something closer to 5-10 gems.

SC needs to have incentive to design such a feature. If we spend resources and gems, it will be worth their while to develop.
January 7th, 2015
gamul1

I quite like the idea. On its merits with nothing to gain it seems splendid. And - you should also be able to reattack a base you may have attacked during the war. Perhaps you lost and want to see if you can just be better.
January 7th, 2015
Gatrdoc

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Originally Posted by hawdog

The idea is nice, but the execution could use some work. It should hurt the "wallet" to do such an attack (or a few of these attacks). Not only should you lose the elixir/DE it cost to build that army and spells, but it should also cost more than 1 gem. Something closer to 5-10 gems.

SC needs to have incentive to design such a feature. If we spend resources and gems, it will be worth their while to develop.

I agree with you. I threw out the one gem as a starting point. Supercell can make it any number they want, and of course you would need to rebuild your troops with new elixir, etc. So you would lose that elixir also.
January 8th, 2015
Gatrdoc

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Originally Posted by gamul1

I quite like the idea. On its merits with nothing to gain it seems splendid. And - you should also be able to reattack a base you may have attacked during the war. Perhaps you lost and want to see if you can just be better.

Always important to try to improve and this would definitely help.
January 30th, 2015
Evelknee

Great idea. I posted basically the same thing and then found this post. NJ being first!
January 30th, 2015
WarrenJames

I posted this in the wrong thread when they made a duplicate. Saw the duplicate before seeing this one. Here's what I said in the other thread. Glad it still fits here. :D
Actually.. That's an idea I haven't heard before. And besides the duplicate thread (Woops, thought that one was the one they wanted gone), the Similar Thread section doesn't show anyone else suggesting it.

Not sure how to balance it, since all attacks in this game should have risk and benifts, but being able to attack a war base again AFTER the war is over doesn't seem as exploitable as other practice attack ideas.

Of course there would have to be some mechanic to make constantly attacking a weak or exploitable base on the enemy's side for easy loot not doable, but that shouldn't be hard to put in.

Though, if you really want practice in attacking bases, the most readily available way of doing that is just build a war army, and look for a good (and now very unlucky) base to break with it, and see how you do. Doesn't have to be a full scale army either. I've practiced with dragons on smaller bases, seeing how few dragons I can get away with on razing it to the ground, and seeing how they move, react, and fair against different kinds of defences.
January 30th, 2015
TheConfuzed1

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Originally Posted by Xswamp

Thats not how i do it, i always scout the base and build my troops according to the base design....

That's what he said. Here it is again:

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Originally Posted by SuperMarc

Some clans do nonstop wars, this would slow them down and I don't see the need of this. If you want to hone your attack skills just raid a village

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Originally Posted by james65

The problem I see with this over war attacks is that you can not plan your troops according to the base, instead you have to just build troops and hope you find a base that fits. Just my opinion
January 30th, 2015
JKL2207

Love this idea, it can be used for training purposes too.
January 30th, 2015
Evelknee

super cell plz take this idea into consideration

This is a win for players who want to get better at war. I honestly see no drawback to this at all. It doesnt Mess With The Balance Of The Game or the mechanics, just creates another resource sink for players who want to improve their war attacks. Make this happen super cell!
January 30th, 2015
AxionXD

I don't agree with your reasoning. Either you take your chances during war and find out how big your test....osterone is or you don't. Getting to practice with no consequences is weak. If you want to see how you match up against the big boys, hit one of them and suffer the loss if you couldn't hold up.

All of this, testing with no consequences feels like the byproduct of our generation that gives trophies for participation. Either hit it or don't hit it. Take life by the horns and hit that maxed out TH10 and see what you've got.
January 30th, 2015
WarrenJames

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Originally Posted by AxionXD

I don't agree with your reasoning. Either you take your chances during war and find out how big your test....osterone is or you don't. Getting to practice with no consequences is weak. If you want to see how you match up against the big boys, hit one of them and suffer the loss if you couldn't hold up.

All of this, testing with no consequences feels like the byproduct of our generation that gives trophies for participation. Either hit it or don't hit it. Take life by the horns and hit that maxed out TH10 and see what you've got.

That's what pretty much the only way I can agree to this, is the second go around still has Cost-Benefit behind it.Obviously, you won't get war loot bonus again, but a minor reward, maybe scaled to how many stars you get on them,

Maybe scratch the significant reward amount. Just maybe get 25% (or some low end percentage) of what the base's war bonus loot was, and still scaled by stars scored. That way you can 'pratice' and have some incentive to get some of your cost back by actually beating them this time.

Why not have enough of a reward to pay the entire cost of that mass dragon attack, plus spells? Because you are effectively paying to pratice. If you want real loot, do a real war! Practising 'war games' are costly.
January 30th, 2015
Jensb3

Super idea

I love this idea, so many times I wish I could try a base one more time to see if I can get that last star. Also a chance to try a base that you weren't sure about during war or use and alternate attack strategy. I disagree with those that say just practice on multiplayer. War bases are designed differently. How often do you see storages used as buffers? In multiplayer something is always upgrading and you can't strategize and then build an army specific to the base. I would drop a few gems for this option.
January 30th, 2015
Ectar

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Originally Posted by Gatrdoc

You know how you have always wanted to see how a different attack strategy or troop/spell composition may have performed against an opponent in a Clan War? My suggestion is to allow the attack page to remain open for a period of 6 hours after a war has ended so you can pick targets and try different strategies against superior targets you may not go after in the course of a clan war for fear of losing. This would allow you to improve your attack skills and learn how different troops respond in different scenarios. Obviously the war is over at this point and it would not affect anything with the war. This gives the opportunity to test yourself in war scenarios which you obviously don't get in multiplayer situations. Base layouts and clan castle compositions are typically completely different. You can even make it like a boost. For one gem you can attack a base in the war room after the war has ended.

But to what end? The war is over so you can't attack them again
January 31st, 2015
WarrenJames

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Originally Posted by Ectar

But to what end? The war is over so you can't attack them again

Haven't you been following the thread at all?
Not going to say to what end, since if you can't figure that out from reading the whole thread, why should I bother to repeat what was said or clearly implied already?
February 2nd, 2015
Evelknee

Hmmm

not one strong argument against this. some typical bad ones though, that would complain about anything.
February 2nd, 2015
WarrenJames

As long as it is balanced, and can spin a halfway decent description for it, as in attacking unneeded and 'abandoned' war bases, I cannot see an issue with it.

It would be up to Supercell, since it would have match thier vision of how the game is played, and it's feel. If it doesn't fit well with what they have planned, it simply won't be used, and no one but the few of is would be the wiser about it.
February 3rd, 2015
Sandis6410

people already can do it

I saw on youtube, read on internet how people root device takes some prog and simulate attacks during cw.
February 3rd, 2015
WarrenJames

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Originally Posted by Sandis6410

I saw on youtube, read on internet how people root device takes some prog and simulate attacks during cw.

And those will get you banned :p
February 5th, 2015
Gatrdoc

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Originally Posted by AxionXD

I don't agree with your reasoning. Either you take your chances during war and find out how big your test....osterone is or you don't. Getting to practice with no consequences is weak. If you want to see how you match up against the big boys, hit one of them and suffer the loss if you couldn't hold up.

All of this, testing with no consequences feels like the byproduct of our generation that gives trophies for participation. Either hit it or don't hit it. Take life by the horns and hit that maxed out TH10 and see what you've got.

I disagree. Armies just don't throw troops out and see what happens. This allows for you to develop strategy. This is also after the clan war has ended. It has no influence on anything besides improvement. Definitely not a trophy for everyone mentality as you put it.
February 5th, 2015
NF2335

Seems like a good idea and it doesn't have the exploitable issue like most simulation attack ideas. I'll support this idea.
February 5th, 2015
webbie

I like this idea. I don't really think it needs to cost any extra on top of troop costs. No resources to gain a typical war army cost is plenty for the chance to do a learning attack or two.

The only exploitable thing I see is if a new war opponent has the same war base as a previous one. Or the chance to practice repeatedly on well known internet bases.
February 6th, 2015
Gatrdoc

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Originally Posted by webbie

I like this idea. I don't really think it needs to cost any extra on top of troop costs. No resources to gain a typical war army cost is plenty for the chance to do a learning attack or two.

The only exploitable thing I see is if a new war opponent has the same war base as a previous one. Or the chance to practice repeatedly on well known internet bases.

Most of those well know bases already have youtube videos on how to exploit them and the well know ones typically get taken first in wars anyway.
February 8th, 2015
Evelknee

I support this idea

I support this idea 100%
February 8th, 2015
WarrenJames

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Originally Posted by Gatrdoc

Most of those well know bases already have youtube videos on how to exploit them and the well know ones typically get taken first in wars anyway.

Explains why my non-standard bases are taken near last, until I copied a common design I kept seeing. Then got hit for a 3 star win.

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