Need Help with Balloonion at TH9

I'm about a week and a half into level 6 bloons. I have level 4 Minions that will be 5 in 2 days. Max rage. I've been having trouble netting to the good with balloonion raiding.
If I go with close to 70 minions it's hard to make progress with DE. If I go with around 40 I seem to lose elixir pretty consistently. To the extent that it won't be viable progressing like this after the boost is gone.
I've tried going up and down from Crystal 3 to Crystal 1.
My attacks are pretty good and my success rate is high. Lure and kill cc. Use around 25 bloons, 8 barbs for cc lure and setup, and rest minions. 1 rage or 2 for a great base (or 0 for an easy target).
Anyone have advice on what I can do to net profit better, especially elixir?

I would not use loonion if I'm hunting elixir. I make loads of DE with it which is why I use it. It is pretty easy to clean out a DE storage on just about any base.

You are using a Lix heavy comp, especially with Loonion, spells and the cost of loons add up raid after raid. I would go with a more cost effective army if you plan on hunting Elixir and leave loonion to farm DE

I've been going 20 loons 60 mins 1-2 eage per raid... Been pushing so im in high master but been turning up a solid profit of lix and gold and getting tons of elixir. The league bonus is huge!

I consider myself a loon expert and I use 28 loons with 40 minions at th9. You can use 24 and 50, but I like 28 and 40 much better. Also try throwing two lava hounds in there with 22 loons and 25 minions. Its ridiculous easy to 3 star th9s with 2 hounds, 22 loons, and 25 minions with 2 rage and 2 heal.

I'm trying to farm DE exclusively, but just having trouble maintaining enough Elixir to keep cooking the bloons. Am I not picking the right bases with enough of both? I can go with 20 bloons or even less, and do ok, but the overall success rate is much lower than 28 bloons.

Is the league bonus of Masters make it entirely worth it? Or is it my base selection? Or trophy range? I guess those are the only real options.

I find farming with loons better in Masters as the loot bonus is better there fore you have something to fall back on if you miss some of the loot but still aim to get the 50% ftw.

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Originally Posted by ragnarvol

Is the league bonus of Masters make it entirely worth it? Or is it my base selection? Or trophy range? I guess those are the only real options.

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In master III you get 100k lix just from winning, thus a lot more income compared from crystal assuming same loot from the base. Though, as other has said, probably switch back to giant/Barch based army when you want to make elixir profit

or you can always try switching Barch and loonion if you just want to maintain your lix. Barch when your lix is low until it is a bit higher, loon if it has reached the targeted lix

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Originally Posted by ragnarvol

I'm trying to farm DE exclusively, but just having trouble maintaining enough Elixir to keep cooking the bloons. Am I not picking the right bases with enough of both? I can go with 20 bloons or even less, and do ok, but the overall success rate is much lower than 28 bloons.

Is the league bonus of Masters make it entirely worth it? Or is it my base selection? Or trophy range? I guess those are the only real options.

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I have been attacking once an hour in Masters with 2 hounds, 22 loons, and 25 minions. I am boosting one db for the hounds and the spell factory of course. I use 2 heals and 2 rage and whatever people give in my the cc. I am spending a lot of DE but am making a lot. I made around 70k profit DE from the past two days from a war win, boosting drills, and attacking. The 500 de loot bonus really helps as well. I am putting down my line on loons on whatever side the DE storage is closest too with heal spells pretty quickly. Then my line of minions, then hounds, then rage as deep into the base as I can while still hitting the loons. Any th9 with no cc is an automatic 3 star, but since I am in masters it is a lot of infernos, but I still go hard for the DE.

Farming with loons is fun but the efficiency is very low even you boost everything all the time.

yes, you need to go up to M3.

I know your a TH9 but I will tell you what I have discovered.
I use (2) hounds, (30) minions, (20) balloons, and (20) archers with K&Q. All max'd and do very well in M3-1.
Even if they are not max'd and your camps aren't top level, you should still have good results at the lower leagues.
I look for these:
Are xbows down for just ground troops
Are the air defenses close together or in pairs
Where is the Queen and is she awake
I usually spread the balloons out around one of the corners followed by hounds directed at each air defense.
Then (2) rage pots each side of corner, minions coming behind them and dropping healing pots in center of base if needed.
Queen and archers clean up with CC.
Hope it was helpful...

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Originally Posted by ragnarvol

I'm about a week and a half into level 6 bloons. I have level 4 Minions that will be 5 in 2 days. Max rage. I've been having trouble netting to the good with balloonion raiding.
If I go with close to 70 minions it's hard to make progress with DE. If I go with around 40 I seem to lose elixir pretty consistently. To the extent that it won't be viable progressing like this after the boost is gone.
I've tried going up and down from Crystal 3 to Crystal 1.
My attacks are pretty good and my success rate is high. Lure and kill cc. Use around 25 bloons, 8 barbs for cc lure and setup, and rest minions. 1 rage or 2 for a great base (or 0 for an easy target).
Anyone have advice on what I can do to net profit better, especially elixir?

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Im twhall 9 love loons an u arent using correctly..i can 2 star any base with them an i use 32loons an 30minions an i dont even have to drop my minions only to take out cc troops the clean up i let my heros do the clean up..Dnt believe me find me my clan is heros of war:blue flame on the side im the leader IGN:hero Level:116 maxxed base except walls which are level 8 workin on 9!!

Go up to masters for the league bonus!
Master 3 and above = profit $$$!!

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Originally Posted by herohex

Im twhall 9 love loons an u arent using correctly..i can 2 star any base with them an i use 32loons an 30minions an i dont even have to drop my minions only to take out cc troops the clean up i let my heros do the clean up..Dnt believe me find me my clan is heros of war:blue flame on the side im the leader IGN:hero Level:116 maxxed base except walls which are level 8 workin on 9!!

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You apparently can't read or write but thanks for the contribution.

Thanks for the input. I think I'll head up to Masters and see how it goes. Haven't been there before so should be fun. I'll report back after I get there.

I personally wouldn't farm with loons, unless in champ or close. I have been successfully using barch as a th9 in the crystal 1-2 leagues very successfully.

If you want to learn the balloonion strategy especially to gain trophies, I have a link to my YouTube channel in my sig, I have a fairly decent video that may help.

I just had a similar discussion with someone in a different thread, i'm pushing with lavaloonion right now, heading to champs just hit 2900. My big thing was how do you get the 50% with 16 loons in m3. this was the response I got:

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Originally Posted by FrankieWeakSauce

Keep in mind that my troops and heroes are maxed I'm just farming to finish walls, new mortar, and giant introduced last update.

What I look for in bases
How I deploy my troops
When I used heroes and CC

What I look for in bases.

• I look for bases that have X-Bow set to ground (harder now with this glitch)

• Infernos on single even though sometimes I go for it if they're on multi and the loot is worth it. I have noticed allot of people setting up storages so they are covered by infernos or x bows. At that point I look at the base and see if they have other storages not covered which they usually do... on opposite corners.

• I also look for bases with storages only 2 layers in.
• I avoid bases with too many gaps in it due to the amount of traps but mainly because of how slow the loons move they would not do too much damage to any defenses deep into the base since I'm not raging them.

How I deploy troops

• I do the strategic deployments you talked about but only on bases the I know I can do it with and get most of the loot. (if I'm lucky enough to find a collector raid or storage in the first layer(pushing base))
• I mainly deploy loons in a line with half my minions behind them once the first set of outside structures have been destroyed or close too I deploy the rest of the minions. By this point most air traps have been set off by loons. (things to take into consideration when deploying minions: if cc or heroes are activated as minions will bypass buildings and start attacking CC and heroes...if that happens release the rest of the minions to speed up to process, I have not had any issues getting a 1 or 2 stars doing this strategy. One thing that does mess it up is the X-Bow glitch)
• For bases like i stated above the I only find have 2 corners not covered too well by infernos or x-bows I release half my loons on each corner and half my minions directly behind them. As we looners know the loons will absorb the damage and minions will help speed up the destruction of all buildings and defenses(these are harder to win and I only do if taking half the loot is worth the loss to me)

When I use CC and heroes

• I don't ever use my CC when Im farming I don't care if I lose a raid every so often, that will be up to you to decide. But I normally try to stay around the trophy range where I am finding good loot so i might lose a few raids on purpose or just drop and go with heroes to get back within that range.
• I use heroes if I want to get some extra loot or a few more percentages to get a win and loot bonus but rarely necessary once you get this strategy down. I leave my TH outside and most people i have been attacked by don't have the army to take on a almost maxed base. They take out my TH and get the loot bonus and give me a free shield. I mainly use CC to protect my storages since I have it centered surrounded by infernos and x-bow with the queen on the fourth side since there is not a fourth x-bow.

If anyone wants to practice this start in crystal 2 or 3 or wherever you are if its gold...but just practice and get used to not using spells. It took me about 4 days to get a technique down that would work.

I was using this technique during our last clan push during the christmas break and got to master 2 before I needed to start using spells but that was because I was also going for loot. Once i stopped going for loot and just the one star I was able to do it without spells by looking for bases I could do the strategic deployment....again hardly used CC and relied on heroes to get that extra percent or two. I was also aware of where the CC was in order to not deploy troops to that side until I had most of the percentage I need it...I would deploy there last or if the CC got activated in the process of the attack...you can tell if you will get what you need to win by looking at your damage done and how many troops you have left. If I saw I was not going to get enough I would also put heroes down while CC what distracted by loons and minions.

I believe once i go to Masters 1 or champions league I changed my troop set up too 20 loons and 70 minions using the strategic deployment method and heroes to get a one start win CC was last resort but still used since it was a push.


If anyone has any question please post them and I'll do my best to answer since my semester has started back up... I will also try to post some gameplay footage when I get the time to this post... GOOD LUCK...


Im sorry if it seems like I am all over the place, i just did this real fast. Ill sit down and make it more concise if I see a lot of people are not understanding what I'm saying...I pretty much just wrote down my thought process before deciding what bases to attack and how I deploy my troops...there is allot more I can write as far as troop deployment goes depending on scenarios, but you will learn that with experience and if you've been looning for a while then you already have an idea of those scenarios, now just need to adjust them to this army size.

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Im an 8 so I dont use the same composition or have access to lavas, but I farm DE, gold, and trophies with Loonian. I pretty much resign to the fact that my elixer will start and end at about the same place each day. But I am adding walls, and DE and pushed to C1 with lvl5 loons and lvl 3 minis.

I see lots of lavaloon suggestions but if you are after DE you do the math. I cant wait to get death head loons. They are truly sick.

Once this boost period is over I will go to something more efficient both in elixer and in time. Loons will be time prohibitive for farming once this gift ends. Until then looking for DE.