Bonus Stars For Clan Wars

I've been in quite a few wars and have noticed that it has gotten a little bland. It's more about individual attacking than as a clan as a whole. So, I propose we implement 3 new stars: "Clan Stars" that depend on the clan's performance as a whole in the war. These stars are worth the same as any other star and are awarded at the end of the war. In the result of a tie, neither clan will get the star (obviously). So strap in and tell me what you think!

The 'Total Destruction' Star

Under the War Stats when you click the blue star, there is the "Average Destruction" stat. However, this is based on attacks already done so 1/90 attacks that is a 3* is 100% and wouldn't make sense to base the bonus star on this. Rather, the clan that is awarded this star is the one that has a higher percentage of destruction done to the enemy clan based on the best attack. For example, in a 25v25 war, each base is worth 4% of the total destruction so 50% on a base is 2% total destruction, 75% is 3% etc. Total destruction will be displayed under the average destruction stat in war stats. This star encourages players to go all out on raids, and not end battles early

The 'Raw Power' Star

Let's face it, spells are incredibly helpful in a war and can change the tides of battle. BUT IF YOU'RE A REAL BARBARIAN YOU DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' WIZARDS' SPELLS! This star is awarded to the clan that uses the least total number of spells in their best attack. I suspect this star will be ignored a lot by top players because spells are almost required to do well on raids anyways. This star sort of balances with the total destruction star because you are conflicted with using the spells to get as high a percentage as possible, or saving them to contribute to this star. This star shows that you are one with the barbarian and know how to raid even when challenged to use little to no spells.
[Edit]: The star is based on the average percentage of spells used in the best attacks. So, if a th 10 has the best attack and used 4 spells it would be 80% whereas if a th9 had the best attack and used 4 spells it would be 100%. The percentages are then averaged out with every best attack and the clan with the lowest percentage is awarded the star.

The 'Total Stars' Star

Under the My Clan and Enemy Clan tab when you click the blue star, it shows the total number of NEW STARS you won for your clan. So if you got three stars on both of your attacks but each one had already need 1 starred, then it only shows 4 stars. This star is awarded to the clan that wins the highest number of total stars. So, in a 10v10 war 30 stars can be won but 60 total stars can be won (if every single member got three stars on both of their raids). Next to new stars won would be total stars won under the My Clan and Enemy Clan tabs and Total Stars Won would be under the War Stats. This star is much like the Total Destruction star except with stars rather than percentage.

Rewards for The Stars (optional)

In addition to the extra stars being won that contribute to the winner of the war, the stars each clan wins will have a special reward that comes with winning them despite if they win the war or not.

Total Destruction Star Reward

10% extra war loot to gold, elixir, and dark elixir.

Raw Power Star Award

Your normal barracks are automatically boosted for 2 hours starting when the war ends. Can not choose when they are boosted. If this is not possible, then 5% extra war loot to gold and elixir.

Total Star Award

You get a percentage of your war loot in a resource of your choosing. The percentage you receive is equal to the total stars you won.


Thank you for taking the time to read my post. Please tell me what you think, if you like this idea, and what should be changed to make it better! Thanks!

I love the idea. This so a well thought out idea to break ties and award clan performance. :cool: Needs some tweaks and I'm not sure about the second star.

Um, my thoughts on this. Nope. Spells are what decides an attack fail/success. Almost needed? Are you kidding me. Th6+ needs spells. Even th5 can use light on cc but they won't be that skilled at that point(most anyway)

Tie rarely happens. Its fun and part of wars. There is no need of a decider for that. And in your case tie can't be decided by your first star as its going to be same to both clan. So you want clan that used less spell to win whole war?

So if there was 1th10 and opponent had 2th10. Opponents are at disadvantage from start. Please no. Its great as it is. Sorry didn't read third star point. Had to give up before.

Edit: third star won't help in tie either as both clan will have same stars for a tie. Maybe you should think more and stop hating spending elixir on spells. Because only spells decide ties according to your idea.

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Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

I've been in quite a few wars and have noticed that it has gotten a little bland. It's more about individual attacking than as a clan as a whole. So, I propose we implement 3 new stars: "Clan Stars" that depend on the clan's performance as a whole in the war. These stars are worth the same as any other star and are awarded at the end of the war. In the result of a tie, neither clan will get the star (obviously). So strap in and tell me what you think!

The 'Total Destruction' Star

Under the War Stats when you click the blue star, there is the "Average Destruction" stat. However, this is based on attacks already done so 1/90 attacks that is a 3* is 100% and wouldn't make sense to base the bonus star on this. Rather, the clan that is awarded this star is the one that has a higher percentage of destruction done to the enemy clan based on the best attack. For example, in a 25v25 war, each base is worth 4% of the total destruction so 50% on a base is 2% total destruction, 75% is 3% etc. Total destruction will be displayed under the average destruction stat in war stats. This star encourages players to go all out on raids, and not end battles early

The 'Raw Power' Star

Let's face it, spells are incredibly helpful in a war and can change the tides of battle. BUT IF YOU'RE A REAL BARBARIAN YOU DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' WIZARDS' SPELLS! This star is awarded to the clan that uses the least total number of spells in their best attack. I suspect this star will be ignored a lot by top players because spells are almost required to do well on raids anyways. This star sort of balances with the total destruction star because you are conflicted with using the spells to get as high a percentage as possible, or saving them to contribute to this star. This star shows that you are one with the barbarian and know how to raid even when challenged to use little to no spells.

The 'Total Stars' Star

Under the My Clan and Enemy Clan tab when you click the blue star, it shows the total number of NEW STARS you won for your clan. So if you got three stars on both of your attacks but each one had already need 1 starred, then it only shows 4 stars. This star is awarded to the clan that wins the highest number of total stars. So, in a 10v10 war 30 stars can be won but 60 total stars can be won (if every single member got three stars on both of their raids). Next to new stars won would be total stars won under the My Clan and Enemy Clan tabs and Total Stars Won would be under the War Stats. This star is much like the Total Destruction star except with stars rather than percentage.

Rewards for The Stars (optional)

In addition to the extra stars being won that contribute to the winner of the war, the stars each clan wins will have a special reward that comes with winning them despite if they win the war or not.

Total Destruction Star Reward

10% extra war loot to gold, elixir, and dark elixir.

Raw Power Star Award

Your normal barracks are automatically boosted for 2 hours starting when the war ends. Can not choose when they are boosted. If this is not possible, then 5% extra war loot to gold and elixir.

Total Star Award

You get a percentage of your war loot in a resource of your choosing. The percentage you receive is equal to the total stars you won.


Thank you for taking the time to read my post. Please tell me what you think, if you like this idea, and what should be changed to make it better! Thanks!

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Hello Lycanthrope !
This is a perfect post! Well-elaborated! This seems like a possible update, but someone needs to tweak it a bit and crunch some numbers
Thanks
TERRA

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Originally Posted by Deadlyxda

Um, my thoughts on this. Nope. Spells are what decides an attack fail/success. Almost needed? Are you kidding me. Th6+ needs spells. Even th5 can use light on cc but they won't be that skilled at that point(most anyway)

Tie rarely happens. Its fun and part of wars. There is no need of a decider for that. And in your case tie can't be decided by your first star as its going to be same to both clan. So you want clan that used less spell to win whole war?

So if there was 1th10 and opponent had 2th10. Opponents are at disadvantage from start. Please no. Its great as it is. Sorry didn't read third star point. Had to give up before.

Edit: third star won't help in tie either as both clan will have same stars for a tie. Maybe you should think more and stop hating spending elixir on spells. Because only spells decide ties according to your idea.

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For the third star he is saying that how usually only new stars count to the overall score so if someone 3 stars a base and another person three stars the same base , the second raid will be useless usually. However if this were implemented the second raid would help to get the third bonus star. Maybe you should think more...

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Originally Posted by Deadlyxda

Um, my thoughts on this. Nope. Spells are what decides an attack fail/success. Almost needed? Are you kidding me. Th6+ needs spells. Even th5 can use light on cc but they won't be that skilled at that point(most anyway)

Tie rarely happens. Its fun and part of wars. There is no need of a decider for that. And in your case tie can't be decided by your first star as its going to be same to both clan. So you want clan that used less spell to win whole war?

So if there was 1th10 and opponent had 2th10. Opponents are at disadvantage from start. Please no. Its great as it is. Sorry didn't read third star point. Had to give up before.

Edit: third star won't help in tie either as both clan will have same stars for a tie. Maybe you should think more and stop hating spending elixir on spells. Because only spells decide ties according to your idea.

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If this was implimented before, we would not have gotten a tie in the clan war. Ties are infuriating because you don't get the total loot bonus. Love the idea:p

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Originally Posted by Deadlyxda

Um, my thoughts on this. Nope. Spells are what decides an attack fail/success. Almost needed? Are you kidding me. Th6+ needs spells. Even th5 can use light on cc but they won't be that skilled at that point(most anyway)

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Yes, that is the point. It rewards those for doing well without using spells to improve their performance. I even said the top players would probably ignore this star.

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Originally Posted by Deadlyxda

Tie rarely happens. Its fun and part of wars. There is no need of a decider for that. And in your case tie can't be decided by your first star as its going to be same to both clan. So you want clan that used less spell to win whole war?

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Never did I say these stars were to decide ties. These are to spice up wars. How is Total Destruction always going to be the same? Show me an example. I used 25v25, 4%, and 75% for simplicity issues rather than saying 50v50 so 2% total destruction each village so a 57% would be 1.14% added to total destruction.

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Originally Posted by Deadlyxda

So if there was 1th10 and opponent had 2th10. Opponents are at disadvantage from start. Please no. Its great as it is.

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Good point. Perhaps I should change it to a percentage as well.

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Originally Posted by Deadlyxda

Sorry didn't read third star point. Had to give up before.

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Gee, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Deadlyxda

Edit: third star won't help in tie either as both clan will have same stars for a tie.

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You don't understand how this star works. For the most simple example lets use a 2v2 war. Both top players in clan a and b three star each base in the opponents clan so the war will be tied 6 to 6. The other clan member in clan b doesn't attack at all and the other clan member in clan a uses both his attacks and two stars each base. Total stars for clan a-10 total stars for clan b-6. The star is then awarded to clan a.

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Originally Posted by Deadlyxda

Maybe you should think more and stop hating spending elixir on spells. Because only spells decide ties according to your idea.

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No, I'm not hating. As a level 117 and th 10 that doesn't need elixir for anything but troops, spells, and walls I have a surplus of elixir all the time.

Thank you for your input.

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Originally Posted by Spurs978

For the third star he is saying that how usually only new stars count to the overall score so if someone 3 stars a base and another person three stars the same base , the second raid will be useless usually. However if this were implemented the second raid would help to get the third bonus star. Maybe you should think more...

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OK I get it after reading his explanation. But there is a flaw to this. All members with extra attacks left can just pound poor last base maybe th5 or something. Being a th6+ others can 3 star it without "spells" which makes it favoured with second extra star and third. Which is really bad. And thanks i do think before simply saying yay.

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Originally Posted by ellogovna14

If this was implimented before, we would not have gotten a tie in the clan war. Ties are infuriating because you don't get the total loot bonus. Love the idea:p

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yes, but ties are fun in its own way. Sure you only get 40% loot. Sure war loot is awesome and helps so much.. But war wasn't supposed to be done for loot. For us, its mainly the aspect of playing together as friends and achievement of team work. If you couldn't get more stars then them, then you deserve 60% cut. Maybe less % wouldn't hurt. But the whole tie gives awesome war feeling. We had been satisfied and happy against our opponents and they expressed same in their description for our message. Its fun when it happens. Our record is 69-2-10. Those 2 ties were really awesome as we all tried our best and fought till last second and had more fun than any other wars.

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Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

Yes, that is the point. It rewards those for doing well without using spells to improve their performance. I even said the top players would probably ignore this star.

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sorry, I get you want to have either only win/lose. But there are ties in wars too IMO. Like they both end up feeling neither can win and end with truce with both having losses/casualty. I feel the current system is fair and fine. Also all the extra headache of calculating all this after each attack and making sure each person is doing what he could do. I mean there are times they could save heal on a loon raid in th6 and early th7. And you can't say OK to any members early to attack some Base as we might need attack later. This gives too much issues to international clans with different time zones imo.

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Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

Never did I say these stars were to decide ties. These are to spice up wars. How is Total Destruction always going to be the same? Show me an example. I used 25v25, 4%, and 75% for simplicity issues rather than saying 50v50 so 2% total destruction each village so a 57% would be 1.14% added to total destruction.

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well I mentioned ties because in other times adding extra star seemed pointless as there is no need to make it more complicated. The only times this helps (adding extra clan stars) would be when in ties which makes the first star not affecting it.

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Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

You don't understand how this star works. For the most simple example lets use a 2v2 war. Both top players in clan a and b three star each base in the opponents clan so the war will be tied 6 to 6. The other clan member in clan b doesn't attack at all and the other clan member in clan a uses both his attacks and two stars each base. Total stars for clan a-10 total stars for clan b-6. The star is then awarded to clan a.

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ya thanks for explanation. That helps clear the confusion. This would lead to exploitation of any members with extra attacks to just hit last member with all attacks to gain advantage which will be boring to watch and to attack and no spells needed. This also makes clans stopping low players in. And this will kill the already few family clans that have to live with low Lvl players and there is already enough complaints about how much clan war is hard. I mean only some clans can win or only war clans manage well. This would put more stress on co and leader to make sure people use less spells and try not to use them when not needed and to make sure people save attacks etc. Sorry to say, all I see are more complications and issues and trouble that brews. Sure it might be great to watch with less spells or something. But I can't say same for co and leaders headache. Also about second attack gaining stars on already 3*ed base, we don't gain any stars on our profile if it doesn't add stars to clan count. We will need a change on that if this gets implemented.

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Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

No, I'm not hating. As a level 117 and th 10 that doesn't need elixir for anything but troops, spells, and walls I have a surplus of elixir all the time.

Thank you for your input.

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Well I would say this too, unlike th9&10 who can use elixir on walls. We have elixir in excess only to give. At least let us happily spend it on spells with all our might. We are already having full elixir storages. Don't make us waste it more.

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Originally Posted by Deadlyxda

But there is a flaw to this. All members with extra attacks left can just pound poor last base maybe th5 or something. Being a th6+ others can 3 star it without "spells" which makes it favoured with second extra star and third. Which is really bad.

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You have to realize this is just one star that's given at the end of the war. While yes, people can pound the bottom player for easy stars think about it: do top players want to waste their attacks on a low player instead of a top player just for one star at the end? It's better to try to win stars from equal-leveled bases (plus they sacrifice a large amount of their own war loot). It's better to attack a equal level base because 1. better war loot 2. more stars won normally 3.helps with total destruction star 4.if you do well on your attacks against people of your own level you don't have to attack the last one anyways.

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Originally Posted by Deadlyxda

yes, but ties are fun in its own way. Sure you only get 40% loot. Sure war loot is awesome and helps so much.. But war wasn't supposed to be done for loot. For us, its mainly the aspect of playing together as friends and achievement of team work. If you couldn't get more stars then them, then you deserve 60% cut. Maybe less % wouldn't hurt. But the whole tie gives awesome war feeling. We had been satisfied and happy against our opponents and they expressed same in their description for our message. Its fun when it happens. Our record is 69-2-10. Those 2 ties were really awesome as we all tried our best and fought till last second and had more fun than any other wars.

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You can still tie even if these are implemented. Say its 63-66 and they win all 3 bonus stars. Tie. There ya go.

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Originally Posted by Deadlyxda

sorry, I get you want to have either only win/lose. But there are ties in wars too IMO. Like they both end up feeling neither can win and end with truce with both having losses/casualty. I feel the current system is fair and fine. Also all the extra headache of calculating all this after each attack and making sure each person is doing what he could do. I mean there are times they could save heal on a loon raid in th6 and early th7. And you can't say OK to any members early to attack some Base as we might need attack later. This gives too much issues to international clans with different time zones imo.

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You are really obstinate in thinking I hate ties. As I said before, this is to spice up wars.

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Originally Posted by Deadlyxda

ya thanks for explanation. That helps clear the confusion. This would lead to exploitation of any members with extra attacks to just hit last member with all attacks to gain advantage which will be boring to watch and to attack and no spells needed. This also makes clans stopping low players in. And this will kill the already few family clans that have to live with low Lvl players and there is already enough complaints about how much clan war is hard. I mean only some clans can win or only war clans manage well. This would put more stress on co and leader to make sure people use less spells and try not to use them when not needed and to make sure people save attacks etc. Sorry to say, all I see are more complications and issues and trouble that brews. Sure it might be great to watch with less spells or something. But I can't say same for co and leaders headache. Also about second attack gaining stars on already 3*ed base, we don't gain any stars on our profile if it doesn't add stars to clan count. We will need a change on that if this gets implemented.

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see my first answer

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Originally Posted by Deadlyxda

Well I would say this too, unlike th9&10 who can use elixir on walls. We have elixir in excess only to give. At least let us happily spend it on spells with all our might. We are already having full elixir storages. Don't make us waste it more.

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Spend your elixir however you like I'm not making you do anything.

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Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

You have to realize this is just one star that's given at the end of the war. While yes, people can pound the bottom player for easy stars think about it: do top players want to waste their attacks on a low player instead of a top player just for one star at the end? It's better to try to win stars from equal-leveled bases (plus they sacrifice a large amount of their own war loot). It's better to attack a equal level base because 1. better war loot 2. more stars won normally 3.helps with total destruction star 4.if you do well on your attacks against people of your own level you don't have to attack the last one anyways.

You can still tie even if these are implemented. Say its 63-66 and they win all 3 bonus stars. Tie. There ya go.

You are really obstinate in thinking I hate ties. As I said before, this is to spice up wars.

see my first answer


Spend your elixir however you like I'm not making you do anything.

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OK, maybe you see it as th10-th8 clans perspective. I'm seeing it as th8-th6 perspective. I'm not bragging. But our clan does get all bottom 17-18 bases for 3 stars with just around 20-25 attacks in 25vs25. Then most of them can't hit th8's above, so they all have free attacks. They can get extra star with this. Also the level of managing to get better results will put lot of pressure on co's and leader. They have RL and to keep checking on others offenses in war progress to make sure spells are less used and to make sure everyone has to attack bases to get 6 star. There are too many overhead issue to enjoy game. You will feel more stressed that enjoyment of a game imo. The members maybe not feel difference.

Also now its kinda easy for looting too. Which is if you can make sure of win, you can let your members to loot with batch for 50% etc. But the level of overhead this brings would make people to attack with high cost twice without able to benefit from well fought war which was already won. Because of extra factors to calculate each time an attack has to be made. Also you ignored my international clan concerns and the time zone issue and other things I mentioned and even the profile stat how it currently works.