Potion Master - Troop Idea - Revamped

Side Notes

For those who don't know, this is an idea that came to my mind while watching nickatnyte play some clash and I searched up the idea to see if it was taken, and alas it was. BUT I noticed the thread got little credit towards it and so I decided to revamp the thread. The original idea was made by TheMegatron, so give them the credit for the idea, his thread can be found here: http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/462737-Potions-Master-%28Worth-checking-out%29
Enough, though, you're here for the idea, right? Well here it is.


Description

For the looks of the potion master, I was imagining kind of a witch doctor kind of feeling with it, with all the bones and claws. It would be a ground troop and deal splash damage. It would take up 25 spaces, like a dragon, and would take about 30 minutes to train. Movement speed is 12. The DPS depends on what attack it uses (You'll see the reason), it's hitpoints would be 450 and it would cost 300 DE to train at level one. For those who want the quick version, here it is:

-Damage per second: varies
-Hitpoints: 450
-Training Cost: 300 DE
-Favorite target: Any
-Damage type: Splash
-Targets: Ground
-Housing Space: 25
-Training Time: 30 Minutes
-Movement Speed: 12
-Radius: 2.5 tiles
-Reference Photo: Attachment 84663
This photo, as it says on google, is a Diablo 3 fan-art of the witch doctor. Now this is just about the perfect image for it. It has feathers on the top in the colors of all the spells, it can have a pouch for where it keeps it's spells and the flaming hand might be an idea for a basic attack with no spells as like a small fire burst, not a fireball because that is reserved for wizards, wizards only fools.

-Description: The Potion Master has no need to pick up a sword or bow, for he uses potions to attack his foes and buildings. This ranged foe can attack using lighting, heal your troops, enrage nearby friends, allow groups to jump, and even freeze the toughest of buildings!

Attacking

The Potion Master is truly a genuine troop when it comes to attacking. Now, there is only one way supercell can go along with this, you set the spells the Potion Master uses. If you go into the Dark Barracks and click the Information button, you can click a color-coded button changing which spell the Potion Master uses in battle and maybe if the design is cool enough it could change the color of the troop.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the Potion Master can only attack with a spell and it then attacks again once the spell has either worn off of finished. So lets say it attacks with a lighting spell, the Potion Master would have to wait until the spell is up.

Another thing to keep in mind is that it only does 1/3 the damage and last 1/2 the time of the normal spell in the factory.

For obvious reasons (even though I forgot to put this in here the first time) the spell's radius would be 1.5 - 2.5 tiles, it does not matter which spell is used, or it can. Depends on whichever supercell approves.

Defending

If this troop is donated to a fellow clan members clan castle, it goes down like this. Once donated, it could say "[name] donate a level ? Potion Master (neutral)!" whereas then the person to which has the troop in their castle now can set which potion it wants to use in battle, and the jump spell would not be an active choice. The lighting spell would attack, the heal would heal the other troops around it (from the CC) or it could give buildings a very small heal. The rage could rage up the fellow clan castle troops and if none then maybe some buildings around it. The freeze spell would most likely be OP in this case, so I guess it would only be able to freeze one troop. Now I know what you're thinking "But what if there are no buildings around them?" and you're smart for thinking that. It would then transfer over to itself, but rather than a potion it would be an immediate effect, but it would be worse that his own spell casting, which is worse then the spells made in the spell factory.

Upgrading

At level one, all the spells it uses are level one spells. This is also a confusing concept of the troop. So at level 1, if it uses a spell, it will cast a level one spell of whichever kind it casted, and it's damage would be 1/3 and would last 1/2 the time of the normal spell. As it goes up to level 6, it attack using level 6 spells, but at 1/3 the damage and lasts 1/2 the time.

Alright guys that's the troop idea if you need to see any more questions answered I will post a comment and if it is big enough I will answer it in my main post. Don't forget that TheMegatron came up with the idea first so give them the credit. Thank you and have a good day.

Thanks

So now the thread is supposed to be over, but this section is for the people who have asked questions and caused it to change the thread in anyway, and this is also here because it proves to people how much they can prove my mistakes easily:

-Tex6170: Added spell radius
-TheScavenger350: Changed how it attacks so it only attacks in one possible way, and also made me implement the defense portion of the thread

Thumbs up. Maybe include the size of the spell ring in preportion to a normal spell.

Nice idea, and I also think it's very kind that you're giving credit to the original creator of this. :)

As for the idea, it seems too overpowered. It is too overpowered because it is capable of using any kind of spell, and the concept of being able to change the spells it used seems to be somewhat complex. It could change from a ground healer, to a troop that freezes defenses, it just has too many possibilities. Also, I don't like the idea of random chance, the idea of where skill doesn't necessarily mean everything. If a freeze spell is needed in desperation of pulling off a victory, and a lightning is used instead, that could cause the player to lose a significant amount of trophies, or get 1 less star in war, and in a war, every star counts!

I really do like the idea of this troop, and you have put a lot of effort into this, and spent a lot of time typing it up, as there is lots of detail and description about this troop. I think that if this was nerfed a significant amount, then this idea would be brilliant. I also have a few questions about this troop:

• What if there are no spells in the spell factory when it is deployed ?
• What would this troop do when defending in the clan castle ?

In defense, this troop becomes even more complex, as Jump Potions would become useless. The lightning would be fairly simple, as it would just be a ranged, splash attack similar to a wizard's attack. The healing ability could heal buildings, as well as other clan castle troops. The rage ability could rage defenses and other clan castle troops. The jump ability would become utterly useless, as cc troops can already bypass walls. The freeze potion would be extremely overpowered, as it would freeze the enemy troops for 4 seconds, giving time for defenses to deal a significant amount of damage, particularly if a large group of attacking force is frozen.

Nonetheless, I like the idea, and with a significant nerf, this troop could become an excellent idea.
Hope this helps!
-Scavenger350 :D

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Originally Posted by Tex6170

Thumbs up. Maybe include the size of the spell ring in preportion to a normal spell.

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There, it's now in the main thread!

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Originally Posted by TheScavenger350

Nice idea, and I also think it's very kind that you're giving credit to the original creator of this. :)

As for the idea, it seems too overpowered. It is too overpowered because it is capable of using any kind of spell, and the concept of being able to change the spells it used seems to be somewhat complex. It could change from a ground healer, to a troop that freezes defenses, it just has too many possibilities. Also, I don't like the idea of random chance, the idea of where skill doesn't necessarily mean everything. If a freeze spell is needed in desperation of pulling off a victory, and a lightning is used instead, that could cause the player to lose a significant amount of trophies, or get 1 less star in war, and in a war, every star counts!

I really do like the idea of this troop, and you have put a lot of effort into this, and spent a lot of time typing it up, as there is lots of detail and description about this troop. I think that if this was nerfed a significant amount, then this idea would be brilliant. I also have a few questions about this troop:

• What if there are no spells in the spell factory when it is deployed ?
• What would this troop do when defending in the clan castle ?

In defense, this troop becomes even more complex, as Jump Potions would become useless. The lightning would be fairly simple, as it would just be a ranged, splash attack similar to a wizard's attack. The healing ability could heal buildings, as well as other clan castle troops. The rage ability could rage defenses and other clan castle troops. The jump ability would become utterly useless, as cc troops can already bypass walls. The freeze potion would be extremely overpowered, as it would freeze the enemy troops for 4 seconds, giving time for defenses to deal a significant amount of damage, particularly if a large group of attacking force is frozen.

Nonetheless, I like the idea, and with a significant nerf, this troop could become an excellent idea.
Hope this helps!
-Scavenger350 :D

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Changed the thread up a lot for your huge contribution! Thank you and I hope you enjoy the changes (check Attacking and Defending)

Nice idea!! I support this.

bump the bump

This seems like a cool idea. What's your thought for the potion master gets his spells? Assumption is that only spells already unlocked in the factory are available to the Potion Master. Also, does he automatically come armed with all spells once trained, or do you have to create spells in the spell factory (at a cost commensurate to the reduced damage) and then load them into the PM?

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Originally Posted by Lycurgus24

This seems like a cool idea. What's your thought for the potion master gets his spells? Assumption is that only spells already unlocked in the factory are available to the Potion Master. Also, does he automatically come armed with all spells once trained, or do you have to create spells in the spell factory (at a cost commensurate to the reduced damage) and then load them into the PM?

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He comes with all spells loaded. This would give the players a very small taste of what the potions do for higher levels. Then again, it's all up to those in Supercell.

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Originally Posted by EliteSugar

He comes with all spells loaded. This would give the players a very small taste of what the potions do for higher levels. Then again, it's all up to those in Supercell.

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Copy. I personally would say it should be tweaked to only allow the use of spells already unlocked, but I still like your idea.