Clanwar improvements

Hi all,

would be nice to have following improvements to clanwars (cw):
- cw troops donate counter per cw and Total per season: now there are some lazy bums that do not donate and we want to know who.
- people selection for cw : people go on vacantion, are sick, need to work etc and you do not want to kick/invite them whole the time before cw starts if you could (de)select members that would help big time
- usage of hero while upgrading in cw: now you cant use your hero while its being upgraded, would be nice to use it with the lvl is already is under the upgrade, this can cripple whole clan, who wars everytime, if everybody is upgrading his hero couple of days, on the other hand clan castle is also usable when upgrading

Greets

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Originally Posted by MfScorp

Hi all,

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Originally Posted by MfScorp

would be nice to have following improvements to clanwars (cw):
- cw troops donate counter per cw and Total per season: now there are some lazy bums that do not donate and we want to know who.

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Ruled out, please read the stickies in future. You should have read them before posting really.

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Originally Posted by MfScorp

- people selection for cw : people go on vacantion, are sick, need to work etc and you do not want to kick/invite them whole the time before cw starts if you could (de)select members that would help big time

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They didn't want to give leaders or co leaders power over people like this, it could lead to some serious issues with leader forcing the bad Raiders and low levels to quit.

So I don't see it, nor want it, to happen.

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Originally Posted by MfScorp

- usage of hero while upgrading in cw: now you cant use your hero while its being upgraded, would be nice to use it with the lvl is already is under the upgrade, this can cripple whole clan, who wars everytime, if everybody is upgrading his hero couple of days, on the other hand clan castle is also usable when upgrading

Greets

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You can't use cannons, or barracks or defence whilst they are upgrading, why should the heroes be an exception? Plan wars around difficult times.

Greets.

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Originally Posted by EpicChris

Hello

Ruled out, please read the stickies in future. You should have read them before posting really.


They didn't want to give leaders or co leaders power over people like this, it could lead to some serious issues with leader forcing the bad Raiders and low levels to quit.

So I don't see it, nor want it, to happen.


You can't use cannons, or barracks or defence whilst they are upgrading, why should the heroes be an exception? Plan wars around difficult times.

Greets.

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The first 2 make sense. But as for the heroes part, I believe Wat he means is being able to use heroes at current lvl only in clan wars was every other defense would be available while upgrading. If warring clans want to continue to war, but members need to upgrade heroes, it makes it very difficult to plan around.

The same way a new th9 can be makin an xbow that isn't complete yet, but still add it in their war base.

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Originally Posted by Kekaki15

The first 2 make sense. But as for the heroes part, I believe Wat he means is being able to use heroes at current lvl only in clan wars was every other defense would be available while upgrading. If warring clans want to continue to war, but members need to upgrade heroes, it makes it very difficult to plan around.

The same way a new th9 can be makin an xbow that isn't complete yet, but still add it in their war base.

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Really. They never used to be able to, I had to wait for my XBow to be built before I could place it in. And I actually understand kind of what you mean now with the hero thing.

But it then again, unlike defences, the hero is sleeping and in an armoury having better equipment placed on him, he can't be in two places at once.

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Originally Posted by EpicChris

Hello

Ruled out, please read the stickies in future. You should have read them before posting really.


They didn't want to give leaders or co leaders power over people like this, it could lead to some serious issues with leader forcing the bad Raiders and low levels to quit.

So I don't see it, nor want it, to happen.


You can't use cannons, or barracks or defence whilst they are upgrading, why should the heroes be an exception? Plan wars around difficult times.

Greets.

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thank you for your feedback.

Ruled out; thats a shame as i do not understand the reason why.
For clans that mean to war on more serious level they want to see how and what.
Act on that and improve team play to get where they want to be in the rankings or loot farming by means of war.

give power to force people out?
What i really mean is that the clans now kick people, start war and re-invite them back into the clan.
They do this because those people cannot participate in the war due to lack of time in their private lives.

About the kicking out bad raiders? this is already happening with the kick function that is in place.
You cannot stop this. Part of every game with clan forming.
Same as in real live bad employees will be kicked out the company.

Cant use cannons..?
I am talking about using the hero whilst attacking in CW.
You can use the clan castle in CW attacks while its upgrading so why not the hero.
On the other side, you can upgrade your troops also in the lab and still be able to build them and use them in wars.
Planning around this is not possible then you need to wait untill all have their hero at max.

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Originally Posted by EpicChris

But it then again, unlike defences, the hero is sleeping and in an armoury having better equipment placed on him, he can't be in two places at once.

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true!
But why are the buildings that are upgrading being used in the wars?
Upgrading and still operational on warday.
So why hero be the exception in attacking.

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Originally Posted by MfScorp

Hi all,

would be nice to have following improvements to clanwars (cw):
- cw troops donate counter per cw and Total per season: now there are some lazy bums that do not donate and we want to know who.
- people selection for cw : people go on vacantion, are sick, need to work etc and you do not want to kick/invite them whole the time before cw starts if you could (de)select members that would help big time
- usage of hero while upgrading in cw: now you cant use your hero while its being upgraded, would be nice to use it with the lvl is already is under the upgrade, this can cripple whole clan, who wars everytime, if everybody is upgrading his hero couple of days, on the other hand clan castle is also usable when upgrading

Greets

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Hello! Please read the stickies before posting a thread:Some of your ideas are great, but sadly they are ruled out!

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Originally Posted by Kirrily

Hello! Please read the stickies before posting a thread:Some of your ideas are great, but sadly they are ruled out!

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Hi, could you please piont me out which ideas are ruled out and where it stands exactly?
I checked the stickie with currently ruled out but did not see any of the ideas mentioned by me standing there.

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Currently rules out:
Troop/Barracks Related:

*Have clan war troop donations count towards donation statistics

This one is asking to merger the donations of wars with regular.
Thats not what i mean here.
I mean seperate counter per war and total per season. only wars related. no merger.

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Originally Posted by MfScorp

thank you for your feedback.

Ruled out; thats a shame as i do not understand the reason why.
For clans that mean to war on more serious level they want to see how and what.
Act on that and improve team play to get where they want to be in the rankings or loot farming by means of war.
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For wars troop donations work like this. Only the clan members with the highest level troops should be allowed to donate. Anything less is dedication to loosing the war. With that in mind, only the top players in your clan would ever see any benefit from tracking war donations. It would also encourage lower level players to donate ♥♥♥♥ troops and or donate/dump/donate/dump/donate/dump repeatedly just to drive up their donation stats. Tracking them as a statistic only sabotages the war effort. The only statistic that matters in clan wars is total in the W column.

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Originally Posted by MfScorp

. . . - people selection for cw : people go on vacantion, are sick, need to work etc and you do not want to kick/invite them whole the time before cw starts if you could (de)select members that would help big time . . .

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An open opt out/in system would be a disaster for the matchmaking system that is already complained about. Kick/invite is already being used as an exploit to create special forces units for war. I can see perhaps one sideline seat for every 10 members of a clan to cover things like deployment, hospitalization, travel abroad, etc. but being able to openly pick who participates in the war defeats the very concept of a "Clan" war. While an opt out/in system has not been officially ruled out SuperSteve has stated that SC considers a system that encourages the entire clan to participate to be a better solution. There is a link to that conversation in my sig.

Hi all, find my feedback below :)

1. I agree with MfScorp: Having different troop donation counters for war is not exactly what is mentionned in ruled out list.

2. Also I confirm the bad use of the sequence "Reject" -> start new clan war -> re-"Invite" players that cannot participate. However I don't think it's good idea to have clanmates selection for clan wars anyhow. Clan wars may be less fair with such feature.

3.During clan war day all defenses are available, even if they are upgrading in Home village. It can be the same for Heroes.. not bad idea..

I posted something similar a while back in a related post, but posts get lost in the pile up so fast that i will briefly summarize a potential update/fix that i proposed previously for selecting members to fight in a clanwar.
I understand that clanwars should be about the "whole clan" fighting, but our clan has serious active players as well as casual players. I propose that we do not kick out or start arguments based on level of activity so to propose a potential solution the clanwar system could be updated as follows.
lets say you have a clan of 27 members, but only 14 or 15 are active and want to be in a war. . The leader, only the leader, initiates a clanwar search. Step 1 asks how many clanmembers in your "war party". Since the clan has 27 members the options are 10, 15, 20 or 25. Step 2, after selecting 15, just an example, the leader is then asked to select the 15 of the total 27 members that will comprise your war party, so there are little boxes next to each player and prior to the search being run, 15 boxes must be checked. The rest of the clanwar system is identical.
i propose this, not to exclude players as punishment but to avoid arguments and kicking players that are not active in a war and then get harassed by other players that saw the inactivity as the reason for a lost clanwar.
this is just a suggestion, Clash is a great game and thanks to all at Supercell for the improvements and hard work.

I think they should have the donation count that we already have and then a separate clan wars donation list and they can make a new achievement for it. The only problem is that people could keep dumping their war castles and let everyone get lots of donations in a single clan war.

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Originally Posted by MfScorp

Hi all,

would be nice to have following improvements to clanwars (cw):
- cw troops donate counter per cw and Total per season: now there are some lazy bums that do not donate and we want to know who.Greets

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Different clans have different donation rules for war so there is no single right answer that fits everyone. Unable to have that single answer that was ok to enforce on every one they ruled it out.

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Originally Posted by MfScorp

- people selection for cw : people go on vacation, are sick, need to work etc and you do not want to kick/invite them whole the time before cw starts if you could (de)select members that would help big time

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They have indicated they are working on it. But the SC post that said that was a lits of a number of things some of which are higher priorities. These things have been happening bit by bit in every update (even up to the most recent). This is a very heavily requested item (with only a few very vocal detractors, its actually wanted by an overwhelming majority) so just hang tight. I am assuming, but it does look like they will get to it eventually.

If you look at the other things on that list that they chose to get to first its hard (IMHO) to argue that the those items were more critical to the game. (Loot adjustments being the biggest)

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Originally Posted by MfScorp

- usage of hero while upgrading in cw: now you cant use your hero while its being upgraded, would be nice to use it with the lvl is already is under the upgrade, this can cripple whole clan, who wars everytime, if everybody is upgrading his hero couple of days, on the other hand clan castle is also usable when upgrading

Greets

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A lot have asked for this. But it would be hard to do really. In effect you would need to have another (war) hero that handled your attacking tied more to the one in your war base than the one in your village. Currently they don't have that third designation for any base components. (people want tiit for the cc too but same problem) so this is likely a long way off. Also the list that contained opt in/out stated hat all other ideas could be considered ruled out so that may be the case here (I am speculating this part) even if not on the sticky yet.