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Because of the long shield. And of course because of the town hall outside part of the game. What the 2 features combined do is minimise player interraction and filters all the good bases from the queue. Thats why this game can be called clash of nexts. Thats why, no matter how much loot they pump into the game, it will not solve the excessive nexting/loot problem. I may be wrong but the game really sucks now and there has to be a reason...
The simple solution is for them to tie trophies to loot. This way the path to loot comes from defeating opponents, not hitting next until you find a base with loot in collectors.
There will always be a good village to attack, you just have to be persistent. I'm a level 96 with a TH lv 9, around 2050 trophies. I probably go through an average of 15-20 villages before I find one that I want to attack, meaning at least 100k of whatever resource I'm trying to get.
I usually find 1 or 2 villages with the TH outside, meaning a free 35k - not bad.
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Originally Posted by ariman88
And a matter of being in the right league. Crystal 2 works best for me, but its different for everyone.
Actually the OP is right for TH9 and TH10. For TH8 and below, loot is still CAKE. 2M gold an hour easy with boosts, 700-800k easy an hour without.
At TH9 or TH10 the problem is most inactives don't make it to th9 or th10 before going inactive, so there's way less of these quitters to loot. We need collectors to not have their loot scale... That way inactive th5s have the same amount of loot for th5s and th10s.
The point of loot scaling is to keep TH10s from bullying TH6's for their loot. It accomplishes that goal-- but it also completely screws the th10s and 9s when it comes to the inactivity pool and makes the game way less fun that high TH.
I use the Easy TH ploy when I'm farming, doesn't mean I don't get 3 stared every now and then. I lots near 400k gold over 2 attacks yesterday. I was farming for TH8, so it's a good purse at my level.
I've never really had a problem with loot, only at certain times of the day. Even over this holiday period when the world and his wife are off work or off school, I've managed to still find loot.
I don't understand why people keep saying the loot is fine. It is fine up to th9, then it becomes a pain.
I know the game is supposed to be a challenge and people feel the need to brag about how well they manage within the game. Pressing next for 30 mins doesn't make the game any fun nor does it make you better than the average player.
The loot is broken and they come up with the wrong ways to fix it. Pumping elixir and gold via collectors won't make loot available... It will only accelerate upgrades but it will not make raiding any easier. The problem is the 12 hour shield. The huge amount of snipers make getting the shield with no resource loss an almost sure thing.
Before inactives used to fuel the economy, making this problem invisible. Now that they are gone due to search algorithm changes the loot/nexting problem is here to stay.
I think they should increase the loot bonus again for crystal, masters, and champion league. That is where most town hall 9's and 10's are. Crystal league should be 50k for c3, 75k for c2, and 100k for c1. Masters should be 150k for m3, 175k in m2 and 200k in m1. Then champions league should give you 250k of each.
That was just the gold and elixir totals because dark is so easy to get up there that I don't really care about what I get from the bonus.
I think this would allow the bonus to be farmed better since there is not a whole lot of loot in the game. (I average about 100k in nexting in c1 when I farm)
Because loot is random and randomness is clumpy. Furthermore, whether or not loot is fine or not is subjective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pskye
If this really is your actual situation; why don't you go for 50% wins in masters, collect the 100k bonus, and treat everything you get from the base as a bonus?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pskye
The problem is not the 12 hour shield. The problem is the lack of loot incentive as it relates to trophies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pskye
This is just nonsense. They haven't altered the search algorithm at all with regard to inactives. It's true that they prioritize inactives lower in the queue, but they have been doing this for a long time. This isn't some sort of recent thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pskye
It's a holiday break for lots of people plus folks are attacking a lot more due to the 1 gem boosts. The more attacks there are, the fewer inactives there are. Shorter shield times would not affect this. Any solution to this issue needs to incorporate the idea that acting inactives should not be more profitable than attacking for trophies and succeeding.
I'm a th10 and there is still plenty of loot. You just have to be in the right trophy range.Quote:
Originally Posted by TravisB
This is correct. For the higher TH levels (9 some and 10 a lot) the economy is not coming together to where what you steal makes there be point to doing the raid. So they should up the bonuses at that level so that you shoot for the 50% or TH instead. And also having those higher provides incentive for guys to win more trophies.Quote:
Originally Posted by dahimi
12 hour shield is fine and would work well with the above. If you are putting your TH out you are losing trophies which if they do the above will be a more severe thing that guys are less eager to do. (because do too much you can fall back out of that enhanced bonus range)
Another thread that speaks to this: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...nus-in-leagues
They could also increase the cost of the next button of they need to cover their own cost for increasing bonuses and reducing next button hits.
Judge Judy, I know you sent a link before that had what you proposed as the correlation between loot incentives and trophies, but could you link it again? I read it through briefly but meant to go back and see how you broke it down, and now I have lost all knowledge of keywords/etc that would have brought me to that thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by dahimi
The way they are increasing the league bonuses right now are exactly why all these bases with millions in storage are just getting sniped out of the queue. Increasing it again in the same manner would only expand the range of leagues that also start to experience this problem. Rewarding 100k+ in resources for a 1-star, 2% exposed TH takedown is stupid, outdated, and needs to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMan131505
Im at TH8 in Gold 3-2 and find PLENTY of good bases to raid. I can't speak for higher up leagues/players but for me the loot is great. I did a boosted raiding session for two hours yesterday and put up nearly 4 mil of each resource. Pretty good in my books.
I dunno. My suggestion would be to use google and search for "site:forum.supercell.net dahimi trophies loot" or some such. Using google for advanced searches is generally better than trying the forum search.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goobers
[QUOTE= I may be wrong but the game really sucks now and there has to be a reason...[/QUOTE]
The only people who say clash of clans sucks are noobs.