What about the update has made it more difficult to loon?
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What about the update has made it more difficult to loon?
notice that my arch queen is upgrading, and we got a terrible matchup lol (so i was kinda upset).
there was actually a witch in the CC of the first attack, but those 2 wizards ruined the party...
i'll work on improving this type of attack and try make a guide for it once i feel safe attacking with it (will include scouting part - which bases are good for the attack and which aren't, troop combination - might change it a bit, etc...)
so i will update of course once i got some insights on this :)
maybe i over-spammed the loons...could of done it a bit smarter, but still wanted to check the spamming idea :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X1AwFXrpyA
The lavapups have less hp and the archer towers do more efficient damage by shooting faster. So for example if an arrow did 80 damage on hit and a balloon had 20 hp left 60 damage would be wasted. Overall it's not too much different though.Quote:
Originally Posted by wormwood1
that's sucks...didn't know that. ill be back in few hours, so meanwhile you can laugh at my attacks :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnDeag
gamer88, maybe lava is to fast how about releasing those LAVA behind the balloon because the enemy CC get triggered earlier by LAVAs... wait till the balloons get near then maybe lava and balloons both get rage and heal at the same time... I don't know just my thought....
and one thing also as you said if the CC is full of wiz lvl5/6 with some higher lvl archers...Could we use to sacrifice one lava first to lure out the enemy Centered CC? and assault them with heroes? Again just my thought... anyway nice try buddy at least 1 or 2 stars good enough...in your experiment... BUT watching Ken's war enemy they seem doing it so ease and great even letting the lava first :confused:
Mine is level2 now...I may try this too...
Still i'm following this thread...:)
Cheers,
KJ
I agree with kristo the hounds were down too soon and the loons were not able to follow up in time. In my successful attack I was going to drop the loons and then the hounds but I was afraid a WT would shoot the balloons so I dropped the hounds extra far then dropped the loons in front as fast as I could. My 2nd hounds barely took any damage from the first ADs because the loons arrived so fast. I'm glad you posted those fails though cuz it shows that this isn't as easy as I was afraid it was going to be and that even a second can make a huge difference. It seems like the keys to success are towers being where the cc and queen will stand, dropping all troops very quickly, and dividing the loons into a core group and 2 side groups. I think that clan in the video used about 16 loons total for the side groups and many of their drops were probably specific counts in specific areas instead of an even line. Those guys seemed to usually drop the hounds after the loons but either way you gotta be fast. I would not say that this attack is base specific though because that clan apparently 3 starred every th9 with it and both clans were war veterans with well designed bases and strong heros and defenses.
You guys should also watch his second video, it's the th10 3 star air attacks and they seem to be more technical and follow a more consistent method.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xy5-1uKTKE
You are right all our cc are filled with 1 witch with archers/barbs and 1 balloon. There is a lack of wizards to do splash on the enemy's balloons. I am not sure how much effect wizards will have on lavaloons though as I have seen wizards getting killed by balloons splash damage when getting too near to buildings. I guess this is all based on luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamer88
Defensive cc choice, we think having too many wizards makes cc too easy to lure which is not a good thing, so we usually only use 1 or 2 wizards max.
I checked your video, you almost got it to work in your 2nd attack. It does seems like this strategy depends alot on timing. One thing about the clan we played against they planned the balloons pathing really well, saving some balloons for key defenses to take down to ensure the 2-3 groups of balloons will bunched up together at the core.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamer88
yep..i will work on better planning of this. it definitely got potential (but also limitations).Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenCoC
about dropping the loons first: i think it will cause many balloons to die. it seems like the whole idea of the attack is making about 2-3 lavas die pretty quick so the pups will take care of the CC and queen. if i'll send the loons first, they will all focus on the loons instead of lavas (and you don't have too many loons over there). so just a thought, but gotta test it.
I still easily 3 star th9s with quatralavaloonion , just know the angle on how to start the raid and youll do fine. The pup nerf has made no difference to me whatsoever.