Farming in Champ: The Guide. (With Videos. Oooooh, double YAY!)

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Hello, welcome to my guide on farming in champ. I have received quite a few PM's with people asking for my strategy on arching. Most of these people are seeking it just to get them to champ, farming there hasn't even occurred to them. So, that got me thinking. Is that something I want the forums to know? Well, yes and no. On the one hand, it helps people, it gives people an interesting read and it shows people its possible. While on the other hand, I think to myself, darn it, then there will be more competition up here, and less loot to go round. But that's when it clicked with me, champs isn't about collector raids. Its not even about storage raids. Its all about the league bonus. So, there isnt less loot to go round, there would be more. More possible bases to raid = more possible league bonuses.
-180K Gold
-180K Elixir
-1200 DE
That's about what you aim for in a regular farm raid, just in the league bonus. Anything else you get, is a bonus.
Below is an example: (before AT update as someone pointed out)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n-NX5_QQAQ
Now, obviously this is not a realistic score you will get each time, but its their to show you, you can pull in 600K gold attacks, and a lot more often than you would in say, crystal league.
One of the things I keep seeing brought up is the new archer towers. People seem to find them so intimidating against barch. Well, I can tell you, they have not impacted a great deal, its noticeable, but certainly not worthy of the words 'Nerf to Barch'. I just pushed from bronze league to 3200 in 3 days, taking the middle day off for Christmas. And now is the ideal time for it, take advantage of this one gem boost. So, without any further introduction I'll get stuck into the strategy.

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The Strategy:

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So, first things first. You will need 220+ troop capacity. Yes this can be done as a TH9, I've done it myself.

The Barracks:
Set your barracks to train archers, and archers only.

The Spell Factory:
Queue up all lightning spells, you will not need them for most raids, but occasionally they come in handy. DO NOT use them to lightning mortars at the start of the raid. Most raids are over in under 45 seconds, so mortars barley let off a few shots. Keep your lightnings for the last few % if you are still short.
[One hit kill buildings include:] -Builders Huts
-Hero Pads
-Army Camps

Heroes:
Your queen in particular is great, but not essential. And the king, I'd rather keep him asleep upgrading. You will only need them to pick off the last few % at the end if you are still short.

The Raid:
When starting out with the strategy, look for 35+ exposed buildings you know you can get, do this, and the raid is going to run smoothly. After a while, what I noticed is that I can look at any base, and immediately know "yep, I can beat that, or nope, no chance." If you're on an iPad, use the three finger deployment method. Work your war around the base in a circle, aim to drop 60 archers per side.
Like so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkFxAg6PCXw
Do not use your ability's immediately, wait until close to the end to revive their health allowing you to get out and raid again as quickly as possible. With the current 1 gem boost, I am raiding every 7 minutes, and if you do a 2 hour session, that's 17 raids = 3,060,000 gold/elixir and 20,400 DE. (just in loot bonus.) Now imagine if you stole just a measly 75k gold in addition to the loot bonus (usually a lot more than 75K), that would be an extra 1,275,000. 4.3 million resources aint too bad for a 2 hour session. It is an extremely profitable strategy that can bring in huge amounts of loot, and it can be used on any base:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E7KLLET7C8&list=UUj50valuZDdHcoYoo2-5Gsg

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Anyway, that will conclude the guide on arching to and in champ, I hope it was helpful to at least one person.
Thanks WiWiGoGo for the cover photo :)
#restoretheforumstotheirformerglory

Further adding to lightning:


Know your lightning:
It is essential to know how your lightning will strike. To do this, you also need to remember which buildings have been damaged, and which haven't. Below is an example of a lightning spells that did the job of two. Occasionally I have been able to use 5 lightnings to make up 10% damage. I can only do this because I KNOW my lightning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IA9--9kkGY&list=UUj50valuZDdHcoYoo2-5Gsg

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Some people have pointed out that the videos were not the best examples due to hero use, I have recorded a couple more to show you.
Observe the require some hero usage, but very little, and they both come out with full health. The following videos are also good representation of lightning spells.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vREuJh7zFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llh08XGS8iw

YEESSSSS! Looking forward to studying this in depth. Thx Lach!

Edit: let me know if you need more space and I need to delete this.

A thread by Lach, what a treat :D

Handy guide, great job.

Very good guide tempted to try it myself now.

Such small hands you have, so adorable

Why are the videos private?

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Originally Posted by JtB

Why are the videos private?

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I was wondering about this as well.

I may be wrong but the video you attacked galadon is it not preupdate where ats shoot twice as fast? I could be wrong but sure looks like theyre shooting very slow. Nowdays that alone can make all the difference on this strategy

Please make your videos public. Except for the first one, they are private. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1

Please make your videos public. Except for the first one, they are private. Thanks.

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Yup. Only first vs Galadon is viewable

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Originally Posted by JtB

Why are the videos private?

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I was wondering about this as well.

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Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1

Please make your videos public. Except for the first one, they are private. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by SirRockstar

Yup. Only first vs Galadon is viewable

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Much apologies guys, ill fix that up.

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Originally Posted by newdles

I may be wrong but the video you attacked galadon is it not preupdate where ats shoot twice as fast? I could be wrong but sure looks like theyre shooting very slow. Nowdays that alone can make all the difference on this strategy

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Quite true, that was an old archer raid. It was just one of the few raids I have recorded, and didnt think of that.

It is an awesome thread.Great job dude.

I am a th9 who plays as much as possible. Would you say this strategy is better than just farming in let's say gold 1? And why would you say it is?

Awesome guide dude! Thanks for sharing!

Geez Lach! This is a great guide. Seems like I'm gonna climb up again to champ to savor the sweetness of juiciest league.













So glad you made this one. Thank you!

fantastic thread mate, in my opinion (however worthless it is) this is worthy of a place in general.

I've been barching in Master 3. Most of my climbing is from defensive wins, and many of my barch raids bring me back down.

I've switched over to this method and it is surprisingly effective, and more reliable than barch.

Thanks for the tips!

Great read Lach. Thanks for taking the time out to do this

Nice guide;)

Do u think that is possible in 2 days become a champ from 2100 trophies and king on upgrading?

Nice guide. Was practicing lavaloonion for cw and ended up in champs, so I'll give this a try for some quick elixir.

Nice guide. By the way, you are just missing the last crotchet cârré around your image tag. :)

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Originally Posted by WaleedAbbasvD

It is an awesome thread.Great job dude.

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Thanks:)

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Originally Posted by andrew1028

I am a th9 who plays as much as possible. Would you say this strategy is better than just farming in let's say gold 1? And why would you say it is?

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Definitley, you can fill your storages twice over if you played a full 6-8 hours easily.

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Originally Posted by WiWiGoGo

Awesome guide dude! Thanks for sharing!

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Thankyou :) And thanks for the pic.

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Originally Posted by KURORO

Geez Lach! This is a great guide. Seems like I'm gonna climb up again to champ to savor the sweetness of juiciest league.
So glad you made this one. Thank you!

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Haha, thanks Kur

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Originally Posted by 5025danny

fantastic thread mate, in my opinion (however worthless it is) this is worthy of a place in general.

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Lol. Cheers danny

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Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1

I've been barching in Master 3. Most of my climbing is from defensive wins, and many of my barch raids bring me back down.
I've switched over to this method and it is surprisingly effective, and more reliable than barch.
Thanks for the tips!

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No worries! I find it easier than barch purely because the archers get that bit of extra range.

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Originally Posted by Stu41

Great read Lach. Thanks for taking the time out to do this

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No worries, thankyou :)

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Nice guide;)

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Thanks :)

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Originally Posted by 9bigboss7

Do u think that is possible in 2 days become a champ from 2100 trophies and king on upgrading?

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Absolutley, pull in a couple two hour sessions a day and youll be there in mo time. My main push was 2700 all the way to 3150 in 5 hours. Then in the morning I boosted for half an hour and got champ.

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Originally Posted by LordHalestorm

Nice guide. Was practicing lavaloonion for cw and ended up in champs, so I'll give this a try for some quick elixir.

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Hope it works for you. Cheers :)

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Originally Posted by gorzo93

Nice guide. By the way, you are just missing the last crotchet cârré around your image tag. :)

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Ooops, haha. Thanks gorzo :)

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Originally Posted by gorzo93

Nice guide. By the way, you are just missing the last crotchet cârré around your image tag. :)

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crochet carré

Great thread but I have to say I'm still sceptical. You cut it close in the vids you showed and there was a reliance on heroes, but I'm guessing you showed the harder ones and you did it without cc too.
How often do you as an experienced player at this lose? (if any)
Is there a reason why this is preferable to barch?
Is there anything you look for in a base besides outside buildings? (no outside splash, up xbows, stuff like that)

Thanks in advance, plan to try this after clan push, and possibly during :)

First, Thanks for sharing. I plan to try this tonight.

Second, I want to echo what the previous poster said in that the videos show a HUGE reliance on your high level heores. Like ~10% on max defenses. That is huge and not easily reproduced by lower level heros. Much less when you have a hero upgrading.

Third, I want to point out that you are using level 7 archers and 240 troops. Whereas you suggested a th9 could do this. I have many doubts about a th9 being able to accomplish this.

Fourth, maybe I missed it, but did you go into more details on tactics? For example, which bases do you avoid? Do you go after bases with heroes near the outer wall? Do you go after bases with infernos near outer wall? I have no doubt you can do this easily, but there is a lot of information I would need to reproduce your results. But thanks again for sharing!

After some testing, I feel that mass archers level 6 does not represent any advantages over barching with level 6 archers. Maybe level 7 archers are far superior?

I can also confirm my previous guess that your high level heroes make a huge difference and most th9s with level 15 and below heroes will not be able to reproduce your results.

I definitely agree that you can do this and a few others will be able to, but for most of us, this is not sustainable (without a lot of nexting) until we get 1. High level heroes 2. Level 7 archers and 3. 240 troop spaces.

I would also like to tell anyone who is doing this to please keep your THs outside!

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Originally Posted by Gama321

Great thread but I have to say I'm still sceptical. You cut it close in the vids you showed and there was a reliance on heroes, but I'm guessing you showed the harder ones and you did it without cc too.
How often do you as an experienced player at this lose? (if any)
Is there a reason why this is preferable to barch?
Is there anything you look for in a base besides outside buildings? (no outside splash, up xbows, stuff like that)

Thanks in advance, plan to try this after clan push, and possibly during :)

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Thanks, yeah thats a fair call. If I get some more time I'll record some more videos, these were just the only ones I had at hand, and probably not the best example. Prior to update, I did over 400 consecutive raids without a single loss. After update, I probably lose about 1/30.
I prefer it to barch because of the extra range, majority of barbarians would die before breaching into the wall, whereas if youre on 45%, are few archers to shoot over the walls may be all you need. And it comes down to mortars, many people like barch because of the barbs soaking up mortar shots, but I did try to outline that the raid is over so quick, that mortars really dont have enough time to let off a significant amount of shots.
I dont even look at buildings any more, I can glance at a base for 2 seconds and know if I can beat it, and 95% of bases are 50% able with arch. Again, that probably just comes down to experience, ive been doing this season a was a townhall 9, 18 months ago.

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First, Thanks for sharing. I plan to try this tonight.

Second, I want to echo what the previous poster said in that the videos show a HUGE reliance on your high level heores. Like ~10% on max defenses. That is huge and not easily reproduced by lower level heros. Much less when you have a hero upgrading.

Third, I want to point out that you are using level 7 archers and 240 troops. Whereas you suggested a th9 could do this. I have many doubts about a th9 being able to accomplish this.

Fourth, maybe I missed it, but did you go into more details on tactics? For example, which bases do you avoid? Do you go after bases with heroes near the outer wall? Do you go after bases with infernos near outer wall? I have no doubt you can do this easily, but there is a lot of information I would need to reproduce your results. But thanks again for sharing!
After some testing, I feel that mass archers level 6 does not represent any advantages over barching with level 6 archers. Maybe level 7 archers are far superior?

I can also confirm my previous guess that your high level heroes make a huge difference and most th9s with level 15 and below heroes will not be able to reproduce your results.

I definitely agree that you can do this and a few others will be able to, but for most of us, this is not sustainable (without a lot of nexting) until we get 1. High level heroes 2. Level 7 archers and 3. 240 troop spaces.

I would also like to tell anyone who is doing this to please keep your THs outside!

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I agree, these videos may not have been the best examples. But, if it helps, I first arched to champ as a premmie TH9 with level 8 heroes, 210 camp space and lvl 6 archers. I know a few TH9's still doing it, however im sure this archer tower update has made things significantly harder.

And in regards to base selection, I really dont analyse it that much anymore, nearly any base is beatable now, I take a glance and immediatley know. For people starting out though, it would certainly help to look for infernos in middle, xbows and splash as close to center too.

This was my heroes in January of 2014. 12 months ago.
http://i.imgur.com/B2y0HFZ.png

how could you raid that fast? Your heroes are getting destroyed.
Don'y you need time for them to heal?

Great guide, Lach!

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Originally Posted by youngthegreat

how could you raid that fast? Your heroes are getting destroyed.
Don'y you need time for them to heal?

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Yes, those were poor examples of raids, just the only ones I have recorded. Ill try and record some more tonight if I get a chance.

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Great guide, Lach!

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Cheers Musa.

Having never used pure arch, I was a little apprehensive about giving it a shot in Champs, but it's essentially the same as barching in M3. Meaning, some raids I won with just my army and some raids I needed to use CC and/or one or both heroes.

I did lose 2 raids (-71 trophies) but they were bases that I should've known better to attack.

One on hand, it would be nice for less experienced high level b/archers to have some do's and dont's when selecting bases in this guide, but on the other hand, a quick search will yield the same results. (There's even a guide in the 'Similar Threads' at the bottom of this one.)

When I got to champs I sort of resigned myself to slow upgrades due to the limited amount of raids you can do with an army with a long cook time, so thanks for showing that it is possible to b/arch in champs for quick loot.

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Originally Posted by LordHalestorm

Having never used pure arch, I was a little apprehensive about giving it a shot in Champs, but it's essentially the same as barching in M3. Meaning, some raids I won with just my army and some raids I needed to use CC and/or one or both heroes.

I did lose 2 raids (-71 trophies) but they were bases that I should've known better to attack.

One on hand, it would be nice for less experienced high level b/archers to have some do's and dont's when selecting bases in this guide, but on the other hand, a quick search will yield the same results. (There's even a guide in the 'Similar Threads' at the bottom of this one.)

When I got to champs I sort of resigned myself to slow upgrades due to the limited amount of raids you can do with an army with a long cook time, so thanks for showing that it is possible to b/arch in champs for quick loot.

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Quite true, I'll look at adding that.
While yes, there is other barching threads out there, I did a search by date, and none have been made since the archer tower update, making this slightly different.

Thanks for the input :)

When I hit TH10 i'll be looking to farm this way and am wondering how much time you have to commit to keeping in champs and what level heroes are required. It seems like a great way to farm

This is a good one, my heros are too low atm, once i get them to decent level i shall try it. Thanks

Great guide man. I have climbed up to masters by barching and to Champs by a mixture of barch/gowiwipe. I have recently completed the achievement for champs.

I would really like to try this but I just have a few questions I hope you could answer.

1. How would your deployment differ if you are using a smaller device? When I'm out I usually use my phone to play and would like some advise on archer deployment (with barch I do a thin line or barbs followed by a thin line of archers then another thick line of archers per side)

2. What cc troops would be best to keep incase of emergency (additional percentage). I usually keep a drag with wiz/arcs feeder from my th8 account.

3. Can I visit your clan? Hoping to learn things from you and vice versa

Thanks man

Nice guide. Thanks for sharing. This strategy will work in Masters too, right?

bump for an amazing thread, strategy and a truly amazing clanmate :)

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When I hit TH10 i'll be looking to farm this way and am wondering how much time you have to commit to keeping in champs and what level heroes are required. It seems like a great way to farm

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Not a whole lot really, im doing about 2 raids a day at the moment because busy with work. Heroes 10+ are ideal.

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This is a good one, my heros are too low atm, once i get them to decent level i shall try it. Thanks

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Cheers :)

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Originally Posted by Bossinggg

Great guide man. I have climbed up to masters by barching and to Champs by a mixture of barch/gowiwipe. I have recently completed the achievement for champs.

I would really like to try this but I just have a few questions I hope you could answer.

1. How would your deployment differ if you are using a smaller device? When I'm out I usually use my phone to play and would like some advise on archer deployment (with barch I do a thin line or barbs followed by a thin line of archers then another thick line of archers per side)

2. What cc troops would be best to keep incase of emergency (additional percentage). I usually keep a drag with wiz/arcs feeder from my th8 account.

3. Can I visit your clan? Hoping to learn things from you and vice versa

Thanks man

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Ive added a new video to the OP which uses a different finger deployment strategy, this is what I use when raiding on my iPhone, hope that helps :)
Yeah, always barbs before arch.

I love to have either wizards or tank units in cc, occasionally you come across a base thats possible to two star, and having some giants to soak up damage, or some wizards to deal extra damage can be handy. sure, PM me a date and time and ill be online to accept you :)

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Nice guide. Thanks for sharing. This strategy will work in Masters too, right?

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Absolutely . :)

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bump for an amazing thread, strategy and a truly amazing clanmate :)

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Nawwww, too kind ath.

Added some extra videos to the second comment on page 1. Shows little reliance upon heroes, and excelent use of lightning spells.

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Some people have pointed out that the videos were not the best examples due to hero use, I have recorded a couple more to show you.
Observe the require some hero usage, but very little, and they both come out with full health. The following videos are also good representation of lightning spells.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vREuJh7zFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llh08XGS8iw

Thanks for sharing some more videos.

How often do you a see a base like the first one you just shared? That is pretty much the ideal case. Think I counted 36 buildings outside and low level defenses. I see this in masters maybe 1 in 50 bases. I would imagine its very rare in champs. You don't next a lot right?

The base in the second stream is a better show case for your skill. Pretty impressed you got to 40% on it with just archers. Can you explain how you deploy the archers? You mentioned 3 finger method, but I can never get my troops to line up so well. Usually with 3 fingers they will overlap for me, but maybe im doing it to fast. My 220 lvl 5 archers would of gotten at most 35% on this base. Maybe its my deployment. But even if i can master your deployment, I don't think I can get 10% from my lightning and heroes. I usually have 1 hero upgrading. So 1 hero would of gotten me at best 3% there or less if the CC troops got to it fast. And 5 lightning generally only get me max 6% damage. But I only have level 5 lightning.

If you have time, post some more videos :) I'll be trying this again when my archers finish upgrading to level 6.

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Thanks for sharing some more videos.

How often do you a see a base like the first one you just shared? That is pretty much the ideal case. Think I counted 36 buildings outside and low level defenses. I see this in masters maybe 1 in 50 bases. I would imagine its very rare in champs. You don't next a lot right?

The base in the second stream is a better show case for your skill. Pretty impressed you got to 40% on it with just archers. Can you explain how you deploy the archers? You mentioned 3 finger method, but I can never get my troops to line up so well. Usually with 3 fingers they will overlap for me, but maybe im doing it to fast. My 220 lvl 5 archers would of gotten at most 35% on this base. Maybe its my deployment. But even if i can master your deployment, I don't think I can get 10% from my lightning and heroes. I usually have 1 hero upgrading. So 1 hero would of gotten me at best 3% there or less if the CC troops got to it fast. And 5 lightning generally only get me max 6% damage. But I only have level 5 lightning.

If you have time, post some more videos :) I'll be trying this again when my archers finish upgrading to level 6.

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Its not super common to find a weird layout like that, but thats not really the point. I wouldnt next more than 2 times to find a base I can arch, and not more than 10 times to find one worth arching.
Basically just plop three fingers down, work around the base in a clockwise direction, the troop bar at the bottom isnt a problem, when you are dropping troops you can still be holding down over the top of the troops and it will be placing archers. Yes, there is a huge difference between level 5 archers and level 7 archers, not saying its impossible, but it would be significantly harder. Now, in regards to circling the base with three fingers, stop when you are about 90% of the way around. Let the troops go uuntilyou know if you will win or lose. If you are going to lose, drop your hero at the remaining 10% of the outer buildings, this gives some easier targets and usually about 7% total damage as oppose to the 3% you were saying. Just a handy tip.
Lightning level shouldnt make much of a difference, its just lots and lots of practice. It is essential to take note of which buildings are being damaged with archers during the raid.

I saw this thread and immediately starting pushing, but ive seem to hit a wall at masters 3, is there a particular number of buildings you look for on the outside/base design you look for?

TheGreatLach, incredible guide that you've shared here! Those are some great vids to show your deployment too. As someone who's been only really doing loonian for most of TH10, this was a refreshing transition for me to try out after one-to-many nexts in the effort of finding loot. After a few dozen losses in champ (I'm sure they enjoy the trophies), I'm getting the concept down and losing much less although I still have to figure that "aha" moment when it comes to knowing what bases to easily take on and what to avoid. The strat greatly helps when nexting for loot is too costly. Thanks for sharing!

A clanmate shared this post. He pushed to masters with 220 archers and his storages were full from the league bonus

i recently became a TH9. Maxed wall and defenses at TH8. I knew loot would be worse until i upgrades barch and i saw what my clanmate did. After a couple days i am cirrently at 2300 trophies with 200 lvl5 archers. I stay away from xbows and i will attack anyone i think i can 50%. I have made less than 10,000 of each resource on several raids. I am starting to notice the league bonus in C2. I really enjoy how little i next because there is no consideration of loot, only the league bonus. I dont expect to get to champions this way but the league bonus is huge in Masters III. I'll update if i make it there

thank you for posting an interesting and useful strategy guide for everyone. My favorite tip was dont worry about the motars battle is so quick its over before the motar can even work.

I would like to share my tip with you. Carry some minions and send them in by wizard towers that are close to the wall. Making them shoot at the ground and the air helps you kill them.

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I saw this thread and immediately starting pushing, but ive seem to hit a wall at masters 3, is there a particular number of buildings you look for on the outside/base design you look for?

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When I was starting out, I would look for 35+ buildings outside, I spent about a month in M3 practicing before I finally made the move for champ.

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TheGreatLach, incredible guide that you've shared here! Those are some great vids to show your deployment too. As someone who's been only really doing loonian for most of TH10, this was a refreshing transition for me to try out after one-to-many nexts in the effort of finding loot. After a few dozen losses in champ (I'm sure they enjoy the trophies), I'm getting the concept down and losing much less although I still have to figure that "aha" moment when it comes to knowing what bases to easily take on and what to avoid. The strat greatly helps when nexting for loot is too costly. Thanks for sharing!

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Thank you, very kind of you :)
Good luck

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A clanmate shared this post. He pushed to masters with 220 archers and his storages were full from the league bonus

i recently became a TH9. Maxed wall and defenses at TH8. I knew loot would be worse until i upgrades barch and i saw what my clanmate did. After a couple days i am cirrently at 2300 trophies with 200 lvl5 archers. I stay away from xbows and i will attack anyone i think i can 50%. I have made less than 10,000 of each resource on several raids. I am starting to notice the league bonus in C2. I really enjoy how little i next because there is no consideration of loot, only the league bonus. I dont expect to get to champions this way but the league bonus is huge in Masters III. I'll update if i make it there

thank you for posting an interesting and useful strategy guide for everyone. My favorite tip was dont worry about the motars battle is so quick its over before the motar can even work.

I would like to share my tip with you. Carry some minions and send them in by wizard towers that are close to the wall. Making them shoot at the ground and the air helps you kill them.

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Ahhh, yes loot bonus from C2 and up is really good, its hard to get in the mindset for farming the league bonus instead of storage's and collectors, but once you do, its well worth it.
Awesome, let me know how you go.

Great tip, ill try it out :)

Excellent thread and guide, I have always wanted to know how you can push to Champ with Archers. :) I pushed to champ as a TH9 with Balloonion, the standard TH9 pushing strategy, but this is definitely cheaper and faster, I might want to try this out. :) Love the detailed videos you provided!

Thanks for sharing and explaining a technique I have always wanted to try. :)

BTW, i don't remember reading it, but how do you recommend using this strategy on a phone? One as small as an iPhone 5 even.?

I saw this thread when I was farming in crystal three. I started pushing to masters and my storages were full before I even got there. Farming the loot bonus is great and with very minimal nexting allows you to keep maximum gold. I don't believe I'm ready to go to champions yet, but I hope to hover around 2800. Great thread!

Thank you for this great tuto,

i am currently applying this strategy since i talked to you in a previous thread.

I can see you are really a better player than I, and i just cannot use this strategy when AT are at level 12 or 13 (even 11 is uneasy). This cause me to next more and more each time i get higher in tr, so i stay as a master 3 between 2550 and 2650 (dropping 100 as soon as i reach 2650 or so).

For average players as myself i think it is more efficient that way, i currently get from 2 to 3 millions gold in a 2 hours boosted session (boosting barracks (not the dark ones) and heroes).

Very helpful thread, thanks for posting your strategy. Currently using it to push up from masters 2 and it's working very well so far. I find it much more consistent than barch for some reason.

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Excellent thread and guide, I have always wanted to know how you can push to Champ with Archers. :) I pushed to champ as a TH9 with Balloonion, the standard TH9 pushing strategy, but this is definitely cheaper and faster, I might want to try this out. :) Love the detailed videos you provided!

Thanks for sharing and explaining a technique I have always wanted to try. :)

BTW, i don't remember reading it, but how do you recommend using this strategy on a phone? One as small as an iPhone 5 even.?

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Thanks, love the feedback!
Hmm, It is certainly tricky, (ive tried it), I use two fingers from the top, and go down both sides of the base and meet up at the bottom, I'll try and record a raid for you :)

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I saw this thread when I was farming in crystal three. I started pushing to masters and my storages were full before I even got there. Farming the loot bonus is great and with very minimal nexting allows you to keep maximum gold. I don't believe I'm ready to go to champions yet, but I hope to hover around 2800. Great thread!

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Thanks Heaps! Glad it has worked for you :)

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Thank you for this great tuto,

i am currently applying this strategy since i talked to you in a previous thread.

I can see you are really a better player than I, and i just cannot use this strategy when AT are at level 12 or 13 (even 11 is uneasy). This cause me to next more and more each time i get higher in tr, so i stay as a master 3 between 2550 and 2650 (dropping 100 as soon as i reach 2650 or so).

For average players as myself i think it is more efficient that way, i currently get from 2 to 3 millions gold in a 2 hours boosted session (boosting barracks (not the dark ones) and heroes).

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I'm certainly not a better player, just had heeeeeappppppsssssss of practice at it. But thankyou for the wonderful feedback. If you have any more questions feel free to ask :)

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Very helpful thread, thanks for posting your strategy. Currently using it to push up from masters 2 and it's working very well so far. I find it much more consistent than barch for some reason.

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Thankyou :) glad it helps.

Yeah, I always was a barcher, then when I discovered arching I never looked back.:p

great thread. Im a TH9 and cant wait to try it out.

I am currently using all archers in Master 3. TH10, level 7 archers, 240 army space. The difference is that I have both heroes upgrading at all times right now. Do you think it would be too difficult to arch in Champion without heroes available?

Thanks.

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great thread. Im a TH9 and cant wait to try it out.

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Hope you have success with it :)

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I am currently using all archers in Master 3. TH10, level 7 archers, 240 army space. The difference is that I have both heroes upgrading at all times right now. Do you think it would be too difficult to arch in Champion without heroes available?

Thanks.

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I generally have at least 1 hero upgrading, it is possible to do champ with both asleep, just need to be more selective of the bases you raid.

Can this be done with lvl 5 archers and 240 camp space? Or do I need 6 or 7?

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Can this be done with lvl 5 archers and 240 camp space? Or do I need 6 or 7?

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It can be done, just try and pick bases with more centralised splash, but still can be done.

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Can this be done with lvl 5 archers and 240 camp space? Or do I need 6 or 7?

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I've gotten 225 camp space now and can report that it makes a bigger difference than getting level 7 archers. I am guessing that 240 troops space is the biggest requirement for this strategy. The less troops you have the lower in cups you will stay at. So here is my order of requirements:

Enemy base selection
Army camp size
Heroes available
deployment skill (spaced and fast deployment)
Archer level
Lightning level

The combination of the above relates to where you can safely farm. In other words 240 troops and both heroes available with the right deployment technique and maxed archer/lightning lets you safely farm above champion. What is the minimum combination to get into and stay in champion with ease? I'm not sure... My guess is 230, AQ available and picking easy bases.

Here is 10% with just lightning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWujpvKtxmQ

Now this is what I'm talking about!

I haven't even started reading your thread but I've always wanted to learn about this subject. I'm nearing the end of TH9 but I've never been above Masters league since I just farm and mostly keep both heroes upgrading.

Looking forward to learning about the farming rate / strategies.

Cheers.

anyone else gotten this to work more efficiently than barching?

I finally got 240 troop space and level 7 archers and at 2900, this barely works with 5 lightnings and 1 Hero. I got to 2900 barching as everytime I tried mass archers, I lost too many times. So my conclusion is that barching is far superior to this, I use 90 barbs and the rest archers. I would love to be proven wrong as I hate having to queue up barbs.

Great Guide! Glad I found this as i am disgustingly low on elixir lol. Thanks!

google play service is not supported by my phone (nokia xl) so, i cannot save my village. I really in needs of your help. please tell me the other way to safe my village....:)

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anyone else gotten this to work more efficiently than barching?

I finally got 240 troop space and level 7 archers and at 2900, this barely works with 5 lightnings and 1 Hero. I got to 2900 barching as everytime I tried mass archers, I lost too many times. So my conclusion is that barching is far superior to this, I use 90 barbs and the rest archers. I would love to be proven wrong as I hate having to queue up barbs.

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Hmmmm, I've always found it more effective than barching. I did have to practice a LOT though, which potentially contributed to my being able to do it.

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Now this is what I'm talking about!

I haven't even started reading your thread but I've always wanted to learn about this subject. I'm nearing the end of TH9 but I've never been above Masters league since I just farm and mostly keep both heroes upgrading.

Looking forward to learning about the farming rate / strategies.

Cheers.

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Awesome! Good luck

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Great Guide! Glad I found this as i am disgustingly low on elixir lol. Thanks!

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Lol, thanks :)

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google play service is not supported by my phone (nokia xl) so, i cannot save my village. I really in needs of your help. please tell me the other way to safe my village....:)

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:confused: Why did you make an account on the forums, search this thread and then post it here? haha

How often is nexting for you lach?

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How often is nexting for you lach?

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I wouldn't search more than 6-7 times.

Is this possible to do as a th9 with 1 hero down?

I love all archers, currently farming with it between 2600 and 2750 (cups come and go naturally for me, just follow the loot) and I can make 1.2M+ an hour just boosting spells. I highly recommend taking out the queen side mortar (with zaps of course), seems to help a lot and I almost never lose.

Do you think this would work as well for a TH9 with 220 spaces and LVL 6 archers?

Great job Lach, I always watch your vidz :)

Nice guide !

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Is this possible to do as a th9 with 1 hero down?

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Its possible, but you have to be picky. Probably farming the league bonus in M2-3 with the same strategy would be safer.

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I love all archers, currently farming with it between 2600 and 2750 (cups come and go naturally for me, just follow the loot) and I can make 1.2M+ an hour just boosting spells. I highly recommend taking out the queen side mortar (with zaps of course), seems to help a lot and I almost never lose.

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Interesting, I might have to go. I prefer to save my zaps.

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Do you think this would work as well for a TH9 with 220 spaces and LVL 6 archers?

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Absolutely! I made 3600 at TH9 with level 8 heroes using all arch.

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Great job Lach, I always watch your vidz :)

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Hehe, thankyou :)

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Cheers!

Lach is def. one of the top quality forumers in here. It's so nice to see how his guides are able to help people progress faster in C.O.C.

Keep up the good work, Lach!

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Lach is def. one of the top quality forumers in here. It's so nice to see how his guides are able to help people progress faster in C.O.C.

Keep up the good work, Lach!

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Naww, thankyou :)
That means a lot to me.:caticon:

Sorry if this is old or already answered but I have a question. I barch now and might try this but it seems a lot if bases in that cup range have cc troops and they destroy a barch raid pretty quickly.

Do you use lightening or just save it and eat the loss?

It is an amazing guide for farming.
I'm feeling me so dumb because I can't use it.(I'm a th 8)
:facepalm:

This is an eye-opener for me as a new TH10. Thanks man!

Thx for your tactic! I moved from m3 to champ with GoArch in a 2 days! sometimes loot is amazing :cool:

now on a 3500 trophies! its not the end :)

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Sorry if this is old or already answered but I have a question. I barch now and might try this but it seems a lot if bases in that cup range have cc troops and they destroy a barch raid pretty quickly.

Do you use lightening or just save it and eat the loss?

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I always carry lightning with me and use them if I need to. I prefer saving them for the end in case I need to get the extra %.

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It is an amazing guide for farming.
I'm feeling me so dumb because I can't use it.(I'm a th 8)
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Haha, thanks dom :)

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This is an eye-opener for me as a new TH10. Thanks man!

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Haha, no worries. Glad it helped :)

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Thx for your tactic! I moved from m3 to champ with GoArch in a 2 days! sometimes loot is amazing :cool:

now on a 3500 trophies! its not the end :)

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Wow! AWESOME! Glad it works for you :)

Can a TH9 farm in champs? Are there bases where I could 50% with level 6 barch? Or is it just bases where I'd have to hope for a one star with gowipe or loonion. My heroes are BK 10 and AQ 7.

Thanks for the great guide Lach, I'm trying this out now and it seems to be going fairly well. A question though - earlier you said

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I generally have at least 1 hero upgrading, it is possible to do champ with both asleep, just need to be more selective of the bases you raid.

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I'm looking to hit champs in the next day or 2, but it's been noticeably more difficult to get 50% ever since getting into M1. I've been relying on my queen for a good 3-5% most of the time, and that's after being quite selective with which bases I hit. Do you have a rough idea of how many nexts you would usually need to find a 50%-able base in champs with both heroes down?

Thank you so much for sharing this, i am upgrading my camps now. My king is only level 1 and i have to buy my queen, but this helped me very much, thank you!!!!!!

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Hello, welcome to my guide on farming in champ. I have received quite a few PM's with people asking for my strategy on arching. Most of these people are seeking it just to get them to champ, farming there hasn't even occurred to them. So, that got me thinking. Is that something I want the forums to know? Well, yes and no. On the one hand, it helps people, it gives people an interesting read and it shows people its possible. While on the other hand, I think to myself, darn it, then there will be more competition up here, and less loot to go round. But that's when it clicked with me, champs isn't about collector raids. Its not even about storage raids. Its all about the league bonus. So, there isnt less loot to go round, there would be more. More possible bases to raid = more possible league bonuses.
-180K Gold
-180K Elixir
-1200 DE
That's about what you aim for in a regular farm raid, just in the league bonus. Anything else you get, is a bonus.
Below is an example: (before AT update as someone pointed out)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n-NX5_QQAQ
Now, obviously this is not a realistic score you will get each time, but its their to show you, you can pull in 600K gold attacks, and a lot more often than you would in say, crystal league.
One of the things I keep seeing brought up is the new archer towers. People seem to find them so intimidating against barch. Well, I can tell you, they have not impacted a great deal, its noticeable, but certainly not worthy of the words 'Nerf to Barch'. I just pushed from bronze league to 3200 in 3 days, taking the middle day off for Christmas. And now is the ideal time for it, take advantage of this one gem boost. So, without any further introduction I'll get stuck into the strategy.

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So, first things first. You will need 220+ troop capacity. Yes this can be done as a TH9, I've done it myself.

The Barracks:
Set your barracks to train archers, and archers only.

The Spell Factory:
Queue up all lightning spells, you will not need them for most raids, but occasionally they come in handy. DO NOT use them to lightning mortars at the start of the raid. Most raids are over in under 45 seconds, so mortars barley let off a few shots. Keep your lightnings for the last few % if you are still short.
[One hit kill buildings include:] -Builders Huts
-Hero Pads
-Army Camps

Heroes:
Your queen in particular is great, but not essential. And the king, I'd rather keep him asleep upgrading. You will only need them to pick off the last few % at the end if you are still short.

The Raid:
When starting out with the strategy, look for 35+ exposed buildings you know you can get, do this, and the raid is going to run smoothly. After a while, what I noticed is that I can look at any base, and immediately know "yep, I can beat that, or nope, no chance." If you're on an iPad, use the three finger deployment method. Work your war around the base in a circle, aim to drop 60 archers per side.
Like so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkFxAg6PCXw
Do not use your ability's immediately, wait until close to the end to revive their health allowing you to get out and raid again as quickly as possible. With the current 1 gem boost, I am raiding every 7 minutes, and if you do a 2 hour session, that's 17 raids = 3,060,000 gold/elixir and 20,400 DE. (just in loot bonus.) Now imagine if you stole just a measly 75k gold in addition to the loot bonus (usually a lot more than 75K), that would be an extra 1,275,000. 4.3 million resources aint too bad for a 2 hour session. It is an extremely profitable strategy that can bring in huge amounts of loot, and it can be used on any base:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E7KLLET7C8&list=UUj50valuZDdHcoYoo2-5Gsg

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Anyway, that will conclude the guide on arching to and in champ, I hope it was helpful to at least one person.
Thanks WiWiGoGo for the cover photo :)
#restoretheforumstotheirformerglory

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