So I get online for a two hour boost and the loot has just been crazy. So much gold and elixir everywhere, my looning army cant get enough. Anyone else finding this?
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So I get online for a two hour boost and the loot has just been crazy. So much gold and elixir everywhere, my looning army cant get enough. Anyone else finding this?
well, its your lucky time i guess. what SC is doing right now is called loot Russian roulette, for every 1 player getting "amazing" loots 5 other players getting poor loots. this is a good way for SC to shut up the majority because every1 will get his turn and we can't have evidence proving loots is "bad".
Well lucky for you, because I haven't found much on my boost. Then again, I am TH 10
That can't be! Everyone whines and cries that the Loot is bad.... :rolleyes:
This 1 gem boost is amazing, I too have been hitting non stop!
Well i just spent 100k gold searching. So no.
On my second account, which is a Town Hall 7, I looted 4 million gold and 4 million elixir in 3 hours. I was in Silver 1 and used all archers. I know, I know, my second account is just a Town Hall 7, but 4 million is still impressive! :D
yes, i've done 5 lavas today - 3 with gold 2 with elix :)
It is interesting to see that loot is getting better. It seems that after some time of bad loot there are enough players that have given up on raiding and with less active Players, loot will improve again. The only Problem I see is that keeping all Players active in the next clan wars will be hard work after some of them have started playing other games instead in the last days.
I've been in the car for 8 hours today with no service so no raiding form me!
Crystal 1 near Masters 3 and not finding jack squat. Best raid I saw was a near max TH10 with around 90k.
Having good finds these last few days too, the key is to be patient with NEXT. Only one time I hit it 90 times, but I ended up with a 300k/3k juicy target. Usually 20-30 nexts, I basically count my league win bonus as my nexting payment.
TH10, 2350 trophies
I haven't found jack in a month or two. Barely keeping my builders busy off of loot bonus.
Ya I've done 12 legos today as th9 loot is rocking tonight.
Same for me lol;)
Everyone who's getting good loot, what league are u in? Im down in gold 1 and there's nothing
I just got townhall 9 and I'm finding ♥♥♥♥ load, which is good for me
Finding 400 k each since LVL 7 giants finished.
was a habitual barcher...but now enjoying the new combos...mix it up with witches...valks, wiz..and archers.
added a little more life in the game for me...nexting less...even if not big gold n Elix... I hit the 3k plus DE to keep nexting to minimum.
(i live in m1-m3) keeps the zappers away...I always carry a bunch of DE trying to upgrade high heroes.
Hours later and I'm still going strong. About to come up on gold 1 however, for me i stop finding loot there, but I'll see. Typically i find something within 30 raids.
Loot still good
When a TH9 says loot is good…meh. You have the extra option to clean up TH8s. Big difference. Our targets are far more limited.
Loot has been only average for me today, getting by but it's nothing to get excited about.
Most people would agree that loot has been horrible for the past few months. I constantly have to press the next button only to find bases with few loot. The problem started with supercell being greedy and want to promote sales of gems. They achieve this by removing inactive bases from search. The clan of cans economic depends on these inactive bases to produce the amount of loot to counter the amount of loot being spend by players for upgrades. Every "maintenance break", they remove more inactive bases.
Next, they mess with the loot system. Some may argue that you can raid more from the new system, while that is true, as they increase the cap that could be raided from 200k to 400k. The problem comes in when they lower the percentage that could be stolen from 20% to 10%. That means that in the old system, you could have stole 200k from someone with 1 million gold, but now you have to hit someone with 2 million gold just to get the same amount of resources. Of course this have their pros, like allowing the high level to save up more resources, but with the already low amount of resources from removing bases, most people don't have a lot of resources in their bases.
The Loot Crisis that is happening right now happened because supercell was greedy. Sure they deserve money for making a great game, but they went too far when they took the fun out of them. The worst problem is that it doesn't look like supercell is doing anything about it. Sure they did release a new level for the mines and pumps, but with a cost of over 300k, a 5 day building time, and a tiny 500 increase in production, they aren't making the upgrade tempting enough. The loot system is a joke now and will continue to get worse. The sad part is that supercell isn't even doing anything about it even when they have some of the highest gross incomes.
2014 a.k.a the year of no loot
maybe you should try a lower league
IKR and these one day elixir boosts are a joke. The pumps don't produce enough for an active player even if it's boosted
LOOT IS BAD, HUH? I just got a 700k raid! so all you whiners out there stop whining! I'm in gold 3! easy town hall 7's with 200k in their gold storages, I just take from them with level 5 balloons and level 2 minions!
Lol y u mak long thred bout the same thing!?!?!?!??!
But in all seriousness: honestly we all realize that there is loot issue flooding the forums with a 1000 page essay will not be helpful.
i'm jumping between gold and crystal right now and nothing works, even attack town halls 7s just because i'm desperate.
I made over 25million gold and elixir this past week. O my god, I really wish I knew where these horror stories come from ... I hardly attack collectors, i go for storages, god forbid.
Then man up and go up a league. My last raid was 170,000 gold and 360,000 elixir, plus 1700 DE from a th10 in CII. I failed to get all his gold, but i still got enough. All storages, no collectors. If you add in the league bonus, its pure profit.
If you want a esay game( collectors only cry babies), go play hayday. Its a game by supercell where you grow a farm. No raiding and no skills required. Seems like the sort of thing you want.
#manUpNancy
People in higher leagues have better defenses to stay up there. In turn, their upgrades cost more, so you will be able to raid them if you go up leagues. You could also farm the league bonus in master. There is loot. What the game is missing is the will from players to want to actually earn their loot.
PEOPLE ARE STARVING, HUH? I just ate a five-course meal and I'm stuffed! so all you whiners out there stop whining! I go to fancy restaurants every night with plenty of food in their kitchen. So nobody should ever go hungry when there's so much food for me to eat!
You are so dumb. Comparing a simple game to world hunger, a real life crisis. The idea doesnt even apply.
There is loot. People cry because there are no esay bases to raid ( innactives ). Its not the same thing. Use your brain for once, please. I really cant believe im the only one finding bases with tons of loot. My account must be rigged. I play clash with me sister everyday(th9 also) and she is always swimming in loot. Maybe both accounts are rigged.
Im should set up a youtube channel and hit next for 30 minutes, and take note of all the good loot bases ill skip, just to prove this, "there is no loot ♥♥", is just that. ♥♥.
I am not here to smart mouth you.. I truly believe it's a matter of trying different trophies until you find what you're after. There is a lot of nexting but I have maxed my gold out 3 times since boosting has started. I also got 70k for lev3 golem and a few days later paid to finish it because I already had the 80k for my lev4 golems which are upgrading now. Supercell is cleaning me out as I have no more money to finish builders so I just finished up my last 25 pieces of skull wall and started on Legos too.. Please try optimism..
Nope I'm finding 300k raids in every attack I next at least 50 times... There is loot
You're correct that comparing clash to real life is usually stupid, so my analogy was dumb. But the underlying point is that your personal experience doesn't mean everyone has the same experience. It's well known that there is a loot problem. Everytime you raid with an army that costs more than the league bonus or everytime you lose an attack, there is a net-loss in the overall economy. If everyone used a bunch of wall breakers and giants every attack, soon the elixir would just run out!
It's mostly supercell's false, the fact is that due to a need for greed, they are always removing inactive bases. If they didn't do that, we would be able to find 200ks and 400ks almost every time we hit the next button. This is not the first time a companies got greedy after hitting something big
The so call maintenance breaks are basically their cover ups to remove inactives from the search system
Wait...there is a loot crisis???
*Runs for the hills in utter despair*
Oh well, luckily it's just a game. Just imagine a loot crisis in real life economy.
Wait a minute.......
I haven't found much since Xmas Eve, I've been from S3 - G1, currently. I don't have loads of patience to next if I can't find a base in a couple minutes j end up shooting for even. I raid storages as collectors are way to much work to find.
I'm hopeful loot will get better once everyone has upgraded their collectors and mines but have seen lots of bases that aren't upgrading them, or much of anything. I still find bases getting their forth mortar to par so.
Some points to consider:
Elixir loot wiped out by:
- spells cost from gold to elixir
- able to use elixir on walls
- lvl 7 barbs, archers, giants (costs 88k elixir to field an army of archers:()
- normal TH10 army + spells can easily cost 300k+ elixir every battle
Gold loot reduced by:
- game is aging and more players are at level 8-11 walls (aka dump all gold into walls)
- traps reworked, costs a lot of gold to automatic re-arm black balloons, big bombs etc.
- search costs very high often 50-100k
And there you have it. Clashnomnomics
If they didn't remove the inactive bases the game would be extremely easy. What's the point in playing a game that you can attain the "goals" of the game easily (maxing base). Clash would be zero fun if you were able to sit there all day and raid inactive base after inactive base. Clash probably wouldn't have lasted this long if they kept the inactive bases. I for one like the challenge of trying to max out my base. I would also say there isn't a "loot problem" either if you're willing to use heavier armies.
Since when do goblins run from the center of the base when there are 5 or 6 completely full storages and desert them to run all the way around to the outside of the base to go after completely empty collectors and mines?! Seriously.. Over the last few weeks I've had goblins who were already in the center and not taking fire run away from the center and run clear back out the way they came in and run clear around the outside to go after empty collectors sitting right in front of defenses only to get killed! Why would goblins be that stupid??? Seriously.... The storages were 1 space away!
Easy loot , Easy raid for beginner . They got hooked to the game ( I'm looking at you) . They have too much gold without builder . They need to buy gems.
Harder loot , Harder raid for advanced player . They need to buy gem to buy resource or boost barrack ,spell,heroes.
You need to to pay SC both beginner or advanced players.
im sure we are all familiar with the definition of insanity.
lets not search in the same league for days and call it quits, rather, lets explore different leagues and stop complaining.
And what has supercell done:
A new mine level that gives you a 500+ production increase with a build time of 5 days and cost over 300k, what a joke, are they expecting people to be tempted to buying it?
Faster shooting for the archer towers and additional level for the giants, and health buff for buildings
Seriously? Does supercell even listen to the majorly?
People like space ape who made samurai siege actually listens to their players and adjust things to their benefit.
While supercell just stays silent
1.) Supercell removes inactive bases, but mainly the low Level ones. If they would not do this, then you would see 99% inactives on lower th Levels. Nearly all th2s and 3s are inactive, because you either quit the game after a few hours/days or you Level up your th.
2.) The real problem is not the loot System, but the shield System. If you get a 12 hour shield, you can only be attacked twice a day and many of them are th snipes. While this works well at lower Levels or leagues, it get worse the higher you get. Above 2000 trophies loot disappears because the average Player is more active than 2 attacks per day. If the search Queue is running out of bases only the worst will stay in the Queue and are shown to everybody. The more you click next the higher the Chance that you will get one of the new average bases.
This is also the main reason why loot at th10 is so bad. You have to go above 2000 trophies to avoid th8s, but there loot disappears so either you have to next twice as often.
In my signature you find my concept of Fixing the shield- and loot System. It is too Long to post it here.
3.) League Bonus, new collector Levels and removing the elixir for low Level walls was a great improvement to loot. The week before the barracks boost was good even with the update effect, so I think we will have OK loot next year as Long as Supercell does not mess up with other updates.
4.) Most players Play this game because of farming and improving their base. If you making raiding less fun, they will get inactive. Nobody will start gemming buildings or even walls, but if raiding is fun many players start boosting. Nobody boosts if nexting Count is high because while boosting this is a real Horror.
What are you talking about? I farmed 8 lavas today ._.
This whole thread is just...............
Yawwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnn, Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Loot is fine.
Learn to play the game right and you SHOULD NOT have a problem with loot unless you simply are too greedy to take reasonable amounts of loot as you come across it.
I looted 10s of millions of gold and elixir as a TH8 and quite frankly, I'm on pace to bring in loot in similar fashion as a newer TH9. All it takes is familiarity with the leagues and what trophy ranges provide you with those opponents that you can raid, pillage and plunder the most loot from.
It's a fact that this "Loot Crisis" you speak of, is more of a personal problem then a Supercell problem... and that goes for the "most people (who are complaining about loot like you)" you speak of as well.
I dont knw what u guys are talkin about im twhall 9 an i only use loonion an dnt even let me boost them babies cuz my storage wud be filled in one day..i farm in silver 1 an gold 3 an loot is awesome..an p.s. im lvl115 maxx base an only working to lvl9 walls
Lol the people who claim loot is fine seem to have an angry tone in their comments. I also see a lot of insulting from their part yet no bans. Don't get that, but hey, what do I know, right? If you're going to say loot is fine, how about saying it in a civilized manner. Also, try and give your opinion without stepping on others' opinion. Remember, let's not be fallacious. Ex: John is finding loot, therefore, everyone should be finding loot.
Anyone else noticing the amount of punk kids joining these forums and polluting this once civilized forum?
Why is 99% inactives at lower th levels bad if these inactives have maxed resource collectors? You seem to think it's a problem, but it's actually not, and the average player is oblivious to the fact that they're attacking a year-long dormant account vs. one that's only been inactive a few weeks (tombstones are tombstones after all, and other than noticing structures missing (like a 4th mortar for an abandoned TH8+) you can't really tell).
Also, it's not necessary to "remove" inactives from the queue. There's this concept called "sorting" in computer science: simply sort inactive villages to the bottom of the queue.
The shield system recognizes that most people have a life outside of what is (and should be) a casual game. This isn't a PC game like WoW where you're expected to be on frequently for long periods. This game is geared towards irregular and sporadic play in bursts of up to two hours (hence why the barracks/hero/spell factory boosts are two hours, so folks can start those when they can commit to playing for an hour or so).Quote:
2.) The real problem is not the loot System, but the shield System. If you get a 12 hour shield, you can only be attacked twice a day and many of them are th snipes. While this works well at lower Levels or leagues, it get worse the higher you get. Above 2000 trophies loot disappears because the average Player is more active than 2 attacks per day. If the search Queue is running out of bases only the worst will stay in the Queue and are shown to everybody. The more you click next the higher the Chance that you will get one of the new average bases.
This is also the main reason why loot at th10 is so bad. You have to go above 2000 trophies to avoid th8s, but there loot disappears so either you have to next twice as often.
I still think part of the solution, especially for higher level raiding (TH9/10) would be if resource collectors were exempt from any loot penalty related to TH level. You should also be able to raid up to 100% of what's in the collectors. Perhaps use a complicated formula to balance this against maxed out storages so you don't get crazy awesome raids, something that reduces the amount available from collectors the more filled up the storages are (not to the extent that you end up with less overall, but just to encourage actual village raiding and not just collector raiding).
I'll check it out.Quote:
In my signature you find my concept of Fixing the shield- and loot System. It is too Long to post it here.
I think the elixir for walls change was a kludge: you're just moving the problem a little higher up the food chain. That TH10 loot is "bad" demonstrates this (I agree that there are other issues too, but the solution wasn't to remove elixir for walls, it could have been addressed more comprehensively with better results for everybody).Quote:
3.) League Bonus, new collector Levels and removing the elixir for low Level walls was a great improvement to loot. The week before the barracks boost was good even with the update effect, so I think we will have OK loot next year as Long as Supercell does not mess up with other updates.
Yeah, endless nexting to find a village with 100k of either resource is irritating, but once the boosts are over things should get better hopefully.Quote:
4.) Most players Play this game because of farming and improving their base. If you making raiding less fun, they will get inactive. Nobody will start gemming buildings or even walls, but if raiding is fun many players start boosting. Nobody boosts if nexting Count is high because while boosting this is a real Horror.
I am the new dreaded th10, where I was told there is no loot. I have farmed enough loot to build 2 infernos, a xbow, 3 camps, 16 lego walls, a cc, and fight in 2 wars a week. In 2 weeks. I would say there is absolutely no problem. If you are nexting a million times to find inactives, stop hunting inactives. If you are nexting a million times to find a storage raid, raise your cups. If you think an army has to be expensive to get get loot from th10 bases, try balloonian. The loot is there, you just need to know how to get it.
Guys, come on. YOU ARE= you're
Drop the condescending attitude if you are reading and writing on a 3rd grade level for Christ's sake. You're here giving your wizard formula for raiding, with an arrogant attitude, yet you don't even have basic command of the English language. Are you American? Cause if you are, damn that is sad.
Personal attacks because you dont have a good argument. What a hypocrite. Of all the people who posted, you are the worst. Good english or not, the point is there and its understandable. Simple as that. Having this attitude vs someone whos first language Maybe isnt english, just wow, pitiful. It isnt mine, so there is little details i dont know. Maybe he doesnt know them. In a serious debate, with serious adults/profesional, what you just said, would lose you the respect of all your peers. It shows a lack of a good argument, so you resort to personal attacks. Ad hominem is the term im looking for. Maybe you dont know it. Look it up. Be more polite toward other people. You are the only condecending person here.
The loot is, as always fine. Cry all you want, the game will be the same. If the innactives suddenly made it back, everyone with no skill would be able to max just fine. There would be 0 challenge. In that case, i would just quit. If i want a esay game, ill go play hayday, minecraft, farm run 2.
funny how he ask us to not be fallacious, yet he does it himself.
I am just saying that the loot is there. I am not trying to be condescending. If your having trouble finding loot read through the loot threads past everyone complaining like I did. The answers are inside by the people that are finding loot. There really is no magic cup range, or technique. There are many ways to make loot, and there is plenty of loot available. I just want all the complainers to see that it is possible and not that hard to obtain. The loot is easy enough to find. You can raid storage's with a cheap army. You don't have to defeat a base to take its loot. I have been farming from Th10 and Th9's no problem and will continue to do so. Every raid is 200k or more profit. I search for elixir only. Gold filling before elixir. I don't have to search long to find it. I am sitting at 2150 cups as a Th10, loot plentiful if you can hit storage or collectors when they come up.
You see, this time when you presented your argument in a civilized manner, it sounded so much better because you respected everyone's input. You just gave your opinion. As opposed to the first time around, where you went off and called everyone whiners. See this difference?
New th10 here had all builders going most of the time had to gem some build times this weekend to start new buildings even with the 6.7 mil camp cost 7.5 mil archers which I gemmed time on since I had 200,000 DE. Got 3 camps going now and last one tonight. I fail to see the loot problem.....
Loot has been bad for months now, but this threads don't help in any way, they only produce arguments.
Really I can only speak for myself. I understand what you're saying (regarding people finding loot having an angry tone) and you're not necessarily wrong about that. The thing is, I definitely sense a similar vibe from those lamenting about having to next for hundreds of thousands of gold or hundreds of times, etc. That just sounds absurd. I'm not doing anything special and I experience none of that, or maybe some of it to such a small extent that it's not anything to complain about. I'm not saying that I'm better than you or anyone else. However, since I know where to go to find whatever resource I'm after in nice quantities, I'm proactive in solving the issue of getting loot for myself. Every member in my clan (of 35 people) does the same thing and there's pretty much never any discussion of there "not being any loot". I have 2 TH10s with maxed storages currently, 2 TH9s with maxed storages, 4 Th8s with maxed storages and 3 TH7s with maxed storages.
I'm simply a firm believer that all players in this game should "be able" to do the same.
It does get annoying when it starts to feel like some players just want to complain and have their complaints reign supreme. With all due respect and not to hurt anyone's feelings, I find that quite lame.
Regarding your example at the end... the pendulum swings both ways sir.
Just because "some" are not finding satisfactory amounts of loot to grab, doesn't mean there is some game-wide "crisis" or "drought".
The only level I'm willing to believe there's an earnest issue (to some degree) with, is TH10, although I've read many TH10s who seem to be plenty good at finding loot for themselves to farm and keep all 5 of their builders upgrading things which cost several million resources a piece to upgrade (for instance the 2 TH10s in my clan)... and they're farmers, not gemmers.
This type of thread is more and more frequent and is the sole reason why the loot thread was formed. Someone starts it, brings up valid points with facts as to why they're having loot issues, and of course, like clockwork, the 11 year old's show up:
"OMGZ LOOT IS FINE I FARMED 45 MILLION TODAY YOU'RE A WHINER YOU'RE A NOOB AHAHAHAAHA I'M TH8 AND LOOT IS FINE YOU NEED TO ADAPT, GO UP IN TROPHIES , IT'S OUT THERE . IF I CAN FIND IT, ITS GOTTA BE THERE."
That is reason why things get out of hand. You can never see anyone defend the loot system with facts and numbers. Instead you're met with hostility and insults. This place has been overrun with kids and SC supporters who act like they're on the payroll.
Most people are terrible at life and obviously CoC... Call me a cynic, but people should just l2p and or be a Ninja.Quote:
Most people would agree that loot has been horrible for the past few months
Okay, this is where your common sense should kick in. You're getting that vibe cause you're listening to kids complaining, rather than people like the OP, who raise valid points and are up for a discussion. If you want to label people who don't agree with the loot system as whiners because you saw some kid say "omg loot sucks SC do something" then you're not being fair, and it's kind of ignorant. My point is, if you think loot is fine, great, but don't discredit the opinion of an upstanding player in this game who is not having any luck.
You mean summary of th8 loot from god knows when?
Every time a TH7 or 8 says there is a loot crisis (or isn't a loot crisis) a puppy dies.
While I agree there is no loot crisis, this is a very bad example of why there isn't a loot crisis.
♥♥♥♥. This is what I mean, my fellow forumers. Do you see the tone in this post? Not realizing the ignorance he is displaying. Buddy, you're at th8. NO ONE HERE SAYS THERE IS A LOOT ISSUE AT TH8
Willing to bet the house that OP is under the age of 18.
Old logs from an emulator. Hmmmmmmmmm
(I agree. you might want to delete this post and your account while your at it.)
Thanx for the Tears... -_-
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This is a completely useless thread seeing youre a th8. I also see hax lol
What trophy range are you farming in, and what is your TH level. Are your troops of sufficient level to obtain loot from your town hall level or the one below? Its not luck. If it was luck, why are people finding the loot, always finding it? The reason I ask is there are always bases with loot in the storage. As there are always collector or inactive bases that show up time to time as well. I don't next for ever. Usually less than 50 times. There are times when it goes longer and I restart the game, and all seems well. If your attacking active players in the correct trophy range for your town hall level you should have no issues finding bases to raid for big loot.
People want the game changed so loot is easier to obtain. But if you think about it, it is easy enough to obtain, and always has been. Sure times are better than others, but it is always there. If you can hit storages or collectors, and you are in the correct trophy range.