Why the Star system is messed up

i just read this entire thread and i have a headache from reading it I only have one thing to say tell me what trophy range your in ill drop or th snipe to your range try to find you and if i do 3 star your base there is goals and objectives people set for themselves with this game which is why it is one of if not the most popular game in the app store. I was a sniper in the US Army so dont talk to me about mediocre and your business and youd fire me blah b lah blah its a game people play how they want if you dont like it......quit just leave your reasourses outside your walls for all the "mediocre" players can get it

How can you lose at least 50% of your buildings and not be considered beaten?

I'm regularly one starred because I keep my town hall outside my walls. It doesn't take much skill but nevertheless I'm defeated. It is my choice to do that just as it's your choice to leave 50% of your base exposed to barch.

We've all decided to place more importance on defending our resources than defending our village's honour from barch attacks. You can't have it all ways, if you want something you have to be willing to sacrifice something else.

Let me state some points that counter your argument OP:

1. If no star or win is given for TH snipes, no one will be using farming layouts because theres no point in having your TH out in the open.
2. If one can only use trophy bases to ensure no win is given, people will be forced to use war troops and cook time for each raid will increase to around 40++ minutes.
3. Because of high cost and build time of troops people will be forced to "next" constantly to make sure that there is a gain in attacking.
4. Since the game is harder, alot of people will get bored and stop playing. Getting new players will be hard because of difficulty factor.
5. Soon all you see is inactive bases


You just killed COC son. If you want a harder game play something else.

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Originally Posted by TheRealchrism

I never said adjust the shield, just adjust the star reward system...yes Keep the shield as is.

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Why would anyone give a free shield if they don't get anything out of it?

OP Sounds like a republican pinhead

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Originally Posted by TheRealchrism

SC designed this game and let the game play result in the following facts:

1. Defense does not matter in game play
2. No matter what base you design, it is inherently designed into the game that you can not build a base to succeed. Defense is designed to allow your base to be 1 starred.
3. Offense is the only thing that matters

1. SC does not care if you update your defense or if you even have any.. an extra d here or there to appease the masses...
2. This has been stated CLEARLY to me by several people. If no matter what base you build, how you arrange it, how much you upgrade, what cc troops you have....that your base, by the design of the game, is destined to fail 95% of the time with a 1 star....then why is a 1 star rewarded when it in turn is as I have stated "Participation Trophy" - make the 1 star a draw.
3. Make people learn the skill of attacking. If anyone can 1 star with a Gowiwi or gowipe..... why reward the 1 star....make them get 2 to get the bonus.

1 star - draw - the game is designed to let you get a 1 star......why reward it
2 star - X% of trophy's and full win bonus
3 star - 100% of trophy's and full win bonus

This is for regular game play and not war...

I will add this with an edit:

1 star - TH or 50%
2 star - TH and 50% or 75%
3 star - 100%

Is that the reason you were looking for? I feel I have fulfilled your why requirement and backed it up....it is not just me and my ranting that want this changed.... With that being said....is a 1 star still good enough? Considering SC has already said that you should get a 1 star 95% of the time when you attack...on average.

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I think you also need to look at it from the Farming vs Clan war point of view.

Farming is dictated by how efficient you can get resources while maintaining your trophies.
1. You usually stay in a range where there is good loot
2. You pick your opponents base on the loot they carry
3. You usually dont care about trophies unless to stay in the range. Hence the reward for 1 star attacks. And dropping trophies. Its to make the system work for farmers(majority of the players).
4. If you see a collector raid, will you pass that? Because you cant get two stars? If you see a lower level townhall with good loot, will you skip it because it offers no challenge? Why not just attack the first base you see and try to three star it if thats your purpose?
5. The purpose of farming is to strengthen your offense AND DEFENSE for clan wars and trophy pushing.
6. Barch is and will always be a farming strategy. Some have pushed its limits to masters or champs league but the primary purpose is to see if it can be used to farm league bonuses.
7. It is wasteful to look for bases you can two star and bases with loot at the same time. We already spend a good amount of time to look for bases with resources. Nexting adds no fun to the players. Its a sunk cost. There is no value to it so I think it would be unwise to add extra metrics to look for.
8. Again, i would like to repeat that purpose is the key. You have missed this from other posts. What is your goal? To trophy push? Or to max out your base?
9. Most of the fun in the game is had during attacks because you can get better at them. No one would play this game if they make it too difficult to win resources. Farming would be impossible.

Clan wars/trophy pushing
1. This is where offense and defense matters
2. This is the avenue where supercell expects you to be competitive.


P.S. I noticed your location says "Playing COC at work". Isn't that considered mediocrity? If you truly are competitive, why not focus your energies on the things that matter? Looking back, maybe thats why the star system is easy. Maybe Supercell designed the game to CATER TO CASUAL GAMERS AND COMPETITIVE WORKERS.

Correct me if I am wrong but it seems that your argument for changing the star system is based on standards. I support your thought process behind changing the system. I don't think what you are asking will happen. What I think could occur is the option to change how you are rewarded. (Casual players get one type of reward system, while hardcore players get another) I believe that would satisfy the masses.

I agree that I don't like Town Hall sniping. But there's a difference between that and actually pushing your way into an opponent's core and destroying their Town Hall, or actually destroying 50% of their buildings (even if you do it with BArch, Barbarians and Archers aren't exactly PEKKA strength units themselves).

Of course, the goal is two-stars. But one-star is important, because it shows that it can be done.

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Originally Posted by choustou

P.S. I noticed your location says "Playing COC at work". Isn't that considered mediocrity? If you truly are competitive, why not focus your energies on the things that matter? Looking back, maybe thats why the star system is easy. Maybe Supercell designed the game to CATER TO CASUAL GAMERS AND COMPETITIVE WORKERS.

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THIS!!!

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For war the loot you get should be based on how many stars you get on the base. This will also prevent people from hitting way higher than them for the loot bonus.