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I had grown 400 trophies in 1,5 days. From 2995 to 3395.
Top 1. I didnt need any advanced tactic. Just destroy castle and throw a bunch of drakos or pekkas.
The top ranking is no sense.
There is no way to make a good defense.
Please fix this, and let the pros enjoy the game with a ranking with the top players and not the top santas.
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Kudos for showing them how broken it is. Game is going to die fast without the element of risk vs reward. There's little to no risk attacking when there are no cc troops to defend because santa took a dump on their castle before the fight even began. Even if no santa spell, 2x lightning does the job (before at least you had to expend 20-25% of your forces to draw em out, AND use the 2x lightning, AND there were usually still some alive).
Yea agree fix the cc troops supercell same here going to quit if no adjustment wit castle... This is not called clash of clan this is the clash of money. Please fix itQuote:
Originally Posted by Kokoima
Guys, you were all a big inspiration for me. Baby Bentley, saw you on Sundays at N44, Riggsen and JesseJames at Bonbee. You all had great layouts, and made me try harder. Now, it's all over. Just uninstalled the game on iPad, and man, did it feel great!Quote:
Originally Posted by Babybentley01
Throwing my 2900 cups back into the universe, and on Supercell's greedy, stupid face, where they belong. And for those who don't gem, find my base, it has 4.5Mil elix and 3mil gold.
Super finished with Supercell. They're not into gameplay anymore, clearly. Better spend $ on a real ♥♥♥♥♥, not a game ♥♥♥♥♥.
Now this is inspiration to me! I and the rest of my two clans are seriously thinking of following your steps. We all grew sick n tired of supercells endless greed! Lets ALL unite against it. I'll spread the word. Game over, indeed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Doucheclanstein
Sir, I am posting your base on my design thread. Just letting you know.
1. You speed gemmed a powerful spell to get 400 trophies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kokoima
2. Top ranking was always whoever paid the most (ex: TheTrueKing)
3. Defense should always have a disadvantage in a freemium model.
4. Nothing to fix.
5. Self-proclaimed "pro" = Guy who spent the most gemming up the OP spell that takes 24 hours for non-gemmers to use to realize something that was evident to everybody before you got to #1.
I expect you to fade away down to 2500s through natural selection like that other flash in the frying pan.
Thanks for contributing real life money to the development of the game and to make people who invested in Supercell very very happy. Happy Thanksgiving. :D
Regards, Tattoo.
k bye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doucheclanstein
k bye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingstox
Please remember to leave a message and expose all of your resources so I can loot you and enjoy this game like fine wine.
Regards, Tattoo.
Wow, you must of spent thousands on gems.
Anyway, this should be fixed because gemmers can easily abuse this by making 4 Santa spells, destroy the castle, deploy a ton of dragons and can easily roflstomp people for an easy 20 cups.
Why should it be fixed? The goal is to get people to buy gems and it is working!Quote:
Originally Posted by Somerandomguy64
Yeah... But some people who use strategy instead of gems would not like it if they got smashed by people who spend a fortune on gems.
Who cares if they like it. The goal is to get people to spend money on gems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Somerandomguy64
Pooh face from the honorable bonbee just passed you. Oh yeah, I like how you gemmed a shield because you were "quitting." lulz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kokoima
The title says it all this game just wants money and supercell doesnt care what people think
Yeah, I agree on that but making it harder means more quitters. More quitters means less $$$ for supercell.
For every one person that "quits" at least ten more take their place. Clash of Clans is a hydra with regenerating heads and nothing can kill it, not even high end "pros".Quote:
Originally Posted by Somerandomguy64
Not sure about that hydra thingQuote:
Originally Posted by hb808
You don't need to be sure. A fact is a fact. Hydras regenerate and win the top spot in the charts.Quote:
Originally Posted by DidiKw1
Yea thanks so much... It was really a lot fun before i never mean to quit this game but this update os forcing to quit.. Reaching a top was a dream and hard effort but now its just a 200-300$ away.. No more fun, no more strategies.. Pay gems sure win... I am hoping to fix supercell this so we can come back to game again..Quote:
Originally Posted by Doucheclanstein
hb808 has an MBA from Wharton and is a gaming business consultant. That's why he drives a Kia and posts 1000 times a day on every thread here. That midget is a genius I tell ya! Ask him to run your investments.Quote:
Originally Posted by hb808
@Baby Bentley:Quote:
Originally Posted by Babybentley01
You bet, man! Enjoyed being around you on the top list. WAS a great game. Hope they do fix it. Then we'll all be back. But for now, gone baby, gone. You were an awesome player, man!
Thanks once again... I am really waiting for them to fix this... I got shield hoping them to fix when shield expires if the game is fixed then we hit the attacks again otherwise back to work ... Real whoring lol :):)Quote:
Originally Posted by Doucheclanstein
Lol, maybe you need to look up the definition of the word 'fact'. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by hb808
Lol, maybe you need to look up the definition of the word 'definition'. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SjorsievW
All the "quitters" just did a u-turn back to the game. I'm eating popcorn and Flamin' Hot Cheetos while I watch Vinhto slowly, methodically, catch up to Kokomo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauta
Another gem play well done rauta. I don think so i will be backQuote:
Originally Posted by Rauta
Your interventions are totally useles and nonsense, everyday that goes passes by I'm more convinced that supercell put you in here to entertain us.Quote:
Originally Posted by hb808
Regards
What did you buy at the Black Friday sale at Walmart?Quote:
Originally Posted by JesseJames2013
I hope you seriously resolve this problem with this update otherwise We will start a couple of clans with maxed out players and terrorize the low and middle end players. I mean no disrespect to you nor them but since most of the players are in those ranges we'll do our best to change the tides of the game and start an uprising.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauta
Regards
A pair of shoes. Thank You o.OQuote:
Originally Posted by hb808
Ah. I'm surprised they had your size.Quote:
Originally Posted by JesseJames2013
http://i.imgur.com/bAWao.jpg
I need 37(uk) those look a bit big, go check and see if they have them so I'll buy a pair. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by hb808
Wow, you are petit.Quote:
Originally Posted by JesseJames2013
AWESOME thanks guys - this will really help make the game more competitive
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Originally Posted by Rauta
We don't negotiate with terrorists. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JesseJames2013
When will this go live?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy
kokoima, dont forget the i.Quote:
Originally Posted by hb808
Great Rauta,Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauta
Nice to see you make changes for this. Not so nice to see that a fix is a way to make people waste more gems. But, ready on this way is like saying to your blonde girlfriend why she is blond. The greedy is in you veins.
Thanks again anyway.
Lets see the changes.
Kokoima
I didn't forget any "i"sQuote:
Originally Posted by Kokoima
Vinhto, my brother from another mother, is gonna get you! Better unpop that kokomo shield!
They fix it and you still complain about "wasting gems". lolololol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kokoima
Alex Trebek: The feeling somebody who gemmed it to the top so they could brag on the forums after realizing that the developers fixed the so-called game-ender problem quickly.
Tattoo: "What is buyer's remorse"?
Alex Trebek: Correct you are you smart midget.
The first and last response to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by hb808
You make me laugh so loud with your posts.
Keep posting please.
Kokoima.
They are fixing your precious castle now.
haha, so now we need 1 santa AND 1 lightning instead of just a santa:D.Quote:
Originally Posted by hb808
that will make a huge diffrence am i right:D
Offense has to always have the advantage
However, this Santa spell combined with Clan Castle not releasing troops after destroyed just make the offense un-challenging
2600 life now.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007ich
4,5 times stronger. Neither 4 lightning will destroy it.
4 Santas? dont now.
Lets see what happens.
Thanks supercell no more issues finally you guya has fixed so we are back to game... Cant wait to attack.. Got shield for few days... BIG THANKS... Santa wont do any dangerous damage lol...
Lets see now how it works...
Still, you can take out the whole set of troops with one lightning when they are outside, but that's pretty much how it has always been. Does require a bit more skill now that the CC troops jump over walls though :)
How mich was cc lvl 4 HP before the patch?
Rauta, it will help also, if u slow again the out of the troops, since winter update, they go out faster, and its easy to destroy them. Before the output rate was 1/s, that makes the attack more dificult.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauta
Regards,
kokoima
I take back my words. increasing hp by around 4x is really a non expected update wich i actually like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kokoima
Using 4 spells to destroy it is not worth it (no rage/heal left). Rather lure troops outside. use lightning on them. Have 3 heal/rage (or maybe a santa) spells left.
Santa is still great (but not UBER good) for taking out clusters of defences.
I do get concerned with the way that Supercell make these updates/changes then do a U-Turn within a day or two. If they finally hang up the Developer boots there will surely be an opening for them in British Politics.
This fix was rushed in because a number of high profile, high purchasing gem players got upset and threatned to quit the game.. The fatted calf was on the way out the door.....
I mean no ill will to these players and i am not trying to make you irrate, its how you chose to play and im cool with that.. I would probably do the same if my wallet could handle the dent..I also appreciate why you get annoyed...
This comment is not directly about the "bug" more about Supercells dependency of High end Gem purchasing..
I for one was hoping that the bottom would fall out of the High rollers Gem buying market and give some of the others a chance...
While the high rollers are buying gems the farming sub-culture will continue to flourish..And that is exactly why Supercell refuse to close the door on the the farming loopholes... becuase they hope that one day these players will eventually rise and need to buy gems...
However the divide between Top and middle tier players is increasing at a dramatic rate, this will have long lasting ramifications within the CoC game.. Im more than capable of getting 2500 trophies, but that would potentially put me on the top players radar... Instead i stay well out of their reach as do most of my clan and many thousands more...
Oh well there are crops to be harvested..
ARE You GRATEFUL?Quote:
Originally Posted by kokoima
Good analysis terminator-bear. Kokomo has spent a lot of money on gems. Need to keep the funds coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by billwinkiesbear
It is going to be a treat watching him try to hold on to that number one slot.
Kokoima I've been watching your progress as Im sure you have been with mine. I want to share a post with you guys that I put on Bonbee glassboar. Hope it helps and gives a fair and honest view of how the 'pros' feel. I sent it in a mail to SCQuote:
Originally Posted by Kokoima
http://forum.supercell.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by PoohFacehttp://forum.supercell.net/images/bu...post-right.pngSo I posted the following to our clan Bonbee Canada and I sent it with responses to Supercell. There is a legal case here regarding exploitation of customers but thats for another day. Here is my post. Hope it makes sense...
Hi Supercall
My in game name is “Pooh Face” (don't ask) I am a member of Bonbee Canada. I spend circa £**** per month on the game. I have some serious concerns that we at Bonbee have been discussing at length. I made a post regarding these issues on our clan glassboard. The following is that post so as to give you a full understanding of our concerns;
“GUYS I'm a business man as you know and I have a keen eye with regards to sales strategies. I have been studying the changes made to the game over the past few weeks including today's hit point increase to CC. I have made the following observations;
It's important to first understand the following.
Based on number of players in game, age groups and financial means of different age groups in the game (best guess) its fair to say that players fall into 3 groups;
Noobs (just started to roughly lev 45) - zero to low spend
Medium players - spend once a month but only if they can and some spend then regret as they can't sustain spend so not a massive amount of revenue
Top players- spend extreme amounts on a regular basis and have the ability to sustain the spend
Noobs and medium combined would be roughly 70% of total players.
Now from a business view;
20% of player bring in 80% of revenue for SC
Now SC will monitor spending and P&L fluctuations but they will not spot it soon enough. Spot what you might ask. Well as we now know, one of the affects of these extreme game changes is that the better player you are or become the lesser the reward so you can keep rising to the top BUT you can not stay there. which begs the question, paying to get to the top is one thing but would you keep doing it over and over? What SC will soon realise is the 20% players that I referred to are not spending anywhere near the same. This is not because they don't want to, it's because they have no need to as they are stuck spending hours just to find a battle. Those hours spent trying to find a battle are not actually gameplay time so in affect they have reduced our gameplay time massively.
Secondly Defence verses attack's balance has changed in such an extreme manner that it means the balance has gone from the game. I attacked a lev 91 yesterday. I 3 stared him at got 3 cups. He revenges me and 3 stared me and got 54 cups. I spent 8 hours of play to gain 20 cups. I lost 54 in just one def.
SC made changes today to increase hit points on CC but this just means you use two Santa's instead of one or one Santa and 1 lightening. Nothing has changed to address the fact that defence war does not exist now. We are building bases just to limit loss not to win on defence.
If you was a brand new player armed with this information would you really play this game never mind spend your hard earned cash. There is no need now to upgrade defence. For a new player they can just attack only and have no defence.
Simply put and as my audience is some of the top players in the game, the game changes of late punish the top players and the high spenders in a manor that makes me feel foolish for spending ant further. I'm not sure if this is what SC intended but nevertheless it is so and as such, I will spend one week from today monitoring the situation and if nothing has changed I will delete my game one week from today.
In the mean time I will email SC with my views and I may send a copy if this post also but first I would like to hear your thoughts
I hope I have managed to articulate my points correctly
Your Pooh Face
Rauta honestly i dont have any question against supercell now... Well done guys thanks for extending the hp of cc... Ofcourse it requires skill to bring all troops outside atleast we have chance of win :):) thanks teamQuote:
Originally Posted by Rauta
Hi Pooh Face,Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohFace
First of all thanks for sharing you point of view. I have the same opinion in most of the points you wrote.
Its not funny to spend a lot of time touching search again to find a battle and also to win it without effort, also is not funny to see that almost all the bases are easy to make 3 or 2 stars. Don't try new defence since im in shield, but ill try and see how it works.
I don't have the solution, i agree with you in your demands to SC, and i sum up. I want this to be a fair and enjoyable game that make the best player the best player, not a matter of patience, time or money.
I tried to visit bombee while we are fighting for the first last night to talk to you and share our opinions, but i cannot get into the clan. Now i realize you think the same.
Also notice that other top members from other clans, almost in AfterDark, also agree with all of these.
By the way, it was funny our race last day, i had a good time, but as you know, it was a matter of random luck.
Hope things change and the game still worth for us.
Best regards,
Kokoima
was a good race bro. I enjoyed it. BUT I hat this 2 hours waiting for a match just to get 1 tQuote:
Originally Posted by Kokoima
Sure,Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohFace
Just to mention, that vinhto lost their 36 trophies attacking last hour a new base design without defense troops.
I know with which base he lost it.
So there is some hope that there is possible to have a good base for defence now.
See u on battles.
Regards.
You mean gemmers. The only 'pro' part about it is how quickly you can perform that IAP.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohFace
No there isn't. I checked. Zero legality. Zero class action. At best you will get a refund from Apple if you are lucky, but Apple wants to protect their investment also so good luck with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohFace
You're off. More like 90%. But you are missing a key variable with the "medium players" that I will address later.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohFace
For a "business man" I'm actually quite surprised it took you this long to surmise this simple concept of the freemium, monetization of the gamer, model.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohFace
This imbalance is key to keeping you on the hook longer. Again...why did it take so long for you to realize this? Were you not around during the 1-3 cup arguments?Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohFace
The key to your argument: BUYER'S REMORSEQuote:
Originally Posted by PoohFace
Don't doubt yourself. It is exactly what they wanted. You and I are INCOME. Supercell is ENTERTAINMENT. You PAID to be ENTERTAINED and now want your money back with talks of "class action". Don't ever take your kids to Disneyland. THEY DON'T OFFER REFUNDS IF YOUR KID DOESN'T LIKE MICKEY.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohFace
I'm looking forward to this turn of events in your "honorable" BC.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohFace
Now...back to what you missed about the "middle players". They are a key source of CONSTANT, SLOW, INCOME. A variable that you truly underestimated. You so-called 'pros' are just icing on the cake.
Honestly, the only thing that irritates me is that I can't directly invest in Supercell or the companies that front-loaded them the captial banking on their success. The world spins on money and the success of a captialized market. Supercell is winning right now. Don't hate them because they are #1. Play the game or find another app. As sad as this may seem, it is the honest truth that you need to wrap your brain around.
Oh yeah, just so you know. Those other clans rising to the top...are just waiting for Bonbee to lose their pride and drop out of the race to take your spot. I'd show you more about Kokomo but I'm saving that juicy bit for later.
Regards, Number 7
See title... says it all really
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Originally Posted by billwinkiesbear
Wish granted.
and that wraps up this thread