Lower spell times

This is ridiculous. It's amazing how supercell will try to limit barching but won't do anything to help big raids like go wipe or loonion. Why would I ever want to begin loonion over barching. 1 reason is because it take 2 and a half hours for spells to finish which are essential to loonion or giant or gowipe/gowiwi attack. It blows my mind that a company is oblivious to it and if they do see this problem and won't do anything about it shame on them. Even if I boost my spell factor I'm still waiting near 45 min. Which is still a lot. If supercell were smart they would lower the times so a player could boost heros and barracks and spell factor at the same time. Then you could boost all of them because right now I only need to boost spell factory and both troops and heros will be done when the spells get done. So again why would anyone not want to barch. My troops combo takes less then 10 mins to finish,no spells used and I'm find getting 250k raids. Supercell if you want to end this loot problem then lower spell times. But this is rediculaes and I know others agree.

totally agree

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Originally Posted by voosy

So again why would anyone not want to barch. My troops combo takes less then 10 mins to finish,no spells used and I'm find getting 250k raids. Supercell if you want to end this loot problem then lower spell times. But this is rediculaes and I know others agree.

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so what exactly are u complaining?:confused:

who uses spells for raids? especially barch?

theyre too costly to be worth it unless you hitting a flush base and going deep for storages

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Originally Posted by mieow

so what exactly are u complaining?:confused:

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Im complaining because for those who push and are in higher cup range. Barching hurts the loot system. Best way to fix it is to end barching. But you can't end barching if there's nothing else to do reasonably.

I myself do not use spells when barching but they essential for other raids like loonion and gowiwi.

I easily farm and push in Masters 2/Masters 1 with balloons/minions and two rage spells. If you need five spells, you might be doing something wrong.

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Originally Posted by voosy

Im complaining because for those who push and are in higher cup range. Barching hurts the loot system. Best way to fix it is to end barching. But you can't end barching if there's nothing else to do reasonably.

I myself do not use spells when barching but they essential for other raids like loonion and gowiwi.

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I understand where you're coming from it is ridiculous to wait 2.5-3 hours for some spells. I couldn't complain more, but oh well that's why everyone barches or runs BAM faster raids, but in the end SC will most likely never change the cost reason why is...well you already know the reason MONEY.

Oh come on! Get over it! Rage spell used to take 8 hours to make. Just go to your local hardware store, buy some timber, builder a bridge and get over it.

I ballonioned 200,000 DE in about a week and used only 3 spells top, that week. And it was vs super rich bases whos loot was in the center.

I also pushed to 2600 and used less than 5 spells the whole time. Spells are only need it for war probably at 3000+ with i dont know right now. If you need 5 spells ( th lvl 9 only has 4, but whatever) you need to learn how to raid.

I think the times are appropriate. For low tiered farming you get a spell created every 1-3 raids. Spells are a treat in farming when necessary. If you want a spell per raid supercell let's us gem. It is a business and the times that are set are fair for low tiered farmers and supercell.

Th10 wars the system is very unbalanced. A reasonable estimate for any high end army would not exceed 2 hours. But 5x 30 minute spells exceeds the troop time by 1/2 hour. Usually rages or freezes involved so even longer.

If we could queue 1 spell, the wait between back to back th10 war raids would be more even as 1 spell from an overnight raid is queued. 4x 30 minute spells would now finish near any hi end war army. 15-60 minute wait max when using freeze/rage seems very reasonable for spells and war troops.

And if queued spells would break the game at lower levels it could be set at th9 or th10s spell factory level.

Please help me make this suggestion more popular.

Spells are fine as they are. The reason that they help you so much is because they cost so much and take so long to make. If you want quicker spells, then SC is going to make them weaker. A 15 minute heal spell would heal 50% of the regular damage.

I hate whiners, especially barch ones, just saying. Why in the world would any barcher use spells? Defeats the purpose and are costly...I say keep the spells the way they are.

Maaaaybe this game isnt ment to be played continuesly?
Maybe SC wants you to wait between raids?

Ever thought of that?

Barching was never intended, destroying bases was the name of this game. Not licking the outside with tier 1 troops, who are quickmade...

Maybe SC dont need to decrease labtimes.. Maybe YOU need to get some patience and not play this game continuesly.. Expecting to have troops ready every 5 min, WITH WHICH you can succesfully raid...

No.

If they lowered the spell times, no one would gem their SF.

OP: Its very obvious why this is so... when you have everything ready & spells are the only things remaining, people are tempted to gem finish the spells... even on boost... thus this is their biggest income from even small time gem buyers...

do you know when spells were introduced how much time it took to make a single spell ???

most of the times you dont need either cc or spells...

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Originally Posted by Stiehl9s

who uses spells for raids? especially barch?

theyre too costly to be worth it unless you hitting a flush base and going deep for storages

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Originally Posted by Zappygirl85

I hate whiners, especially barch ones, just saying. Why in the world would any barcher use spells? Defeats the purpose and are costly...I say keep the spells the way they are.

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No offense, but you guys probably havent tried barching in Master 3-2, let alone doing so as a th9. There were times when you seriously need to get that 50%... And trust me, get 50% on near max th10 with lvl6 barch and 220 spaces is much harder than you would imagine.

If you are late th9 or th10, you will find yourselves using more spells to raid, even with cheap/quick army. And if you dont use spells to raid, im sure you are going to have troubles once you upgrade to th10.

Spells are fine as they are, try to limit useage of one spell every few battles and you wont have problem anymore.

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Originally Posted by voosy

Im complaining because for those who push and are in higher cup range. Barching hurts the loot system. Best way to fix it is to end barching. But you can't end barching if there's nothing else to do reasonably.

I myself do not use spells when barching but they essential for other raids like loonion and gowiwi.

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How does barching hurt loot system, it is taking the loot from dead bases and making it available to everyone once again. Also it is a very cheap way to get 50% and thus bringing in the win loot bonus. Barching actually helps the loot system.

I remember when it took 2 hours for one lightning spell! Then the buffed it to 1 hour and then finally 30 mins. Also, if your very high up in trophies if you have to gem your spell factory you'd probably be gemming your barracks anyway.

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Originally Posted by Tim91

Maaaaybe this game isnt ment to be played continuesly?
Maybe SC wants you to wait between raids?

Ever thought of that?

Barching was never intended, destroying bases was the name of this game. Not licking the outside with tier 1 troops, who are quickmade...

Maybe SC dont need to decrease labtimes.. Maybe YOU need to get some patience and not play this game continuesly.. Expecting to have troops ready every 5 min, WITH WHICH you can succesfully raid...

No.

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Barching was never intended?!?

they are the basic troops in the game! Such a silly statement...

The defense against barch farming is stupid easy... Log in before your shield runs out so you don't get "farmed" .. I know... Hard, right!!?? And if you are pushing with barch, base design with less then 28 buildings outside shuts down most barch armies... So, where is the problem?

Supercell created a game where you need to raid multiple times to pay for your inevitable losses, both resources, trap re arming, netting costs etc... That was their decision, obviously they did this to add artificial difficulty to the game. If there was no cost to a loss, the game would be very easy and not as much gem purchasing would occur.