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Hey all,I'm new to TH9. At TH8 I was running barch, and was wondering it was effective at TH9 too. I also see people running level 6 giants/archers which seems to be better at getting to the core. Any success stories from TH9s? Im farming at gold 2 atm.
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Barch is good if you're finding plenty of collector bases. If not, its only good for pushing (easy 50%). 8wb, 14 lvl6 giants, rest archers is the best bet to get into storages. The thing with the Giants+archers combo is, that you can hit collector bases with archers only and usually get all of them, if they're not hidden behind walls.
Barch is a good default to use if you are running into a lot of collections...
Loonian is good for storage raids
Giants, barbs, archers, wb, wiz is a good combo if your are DE raiding.
Basically don't think of it as there is only 1 way to raid. Feel out what you are finding when you next. If you are finding more storage raids and you wanna continue to barch for speed throw in wall breakers to help your barch puncture through or switch up to Giant strategy.
I dont understand why giants are not used by so many players..
50 barbs is cool and all, but if ur just gonna use them to tank, why the hell not go for giants?! :S Also giants dosnt die so fast from splash damage.. a couple of mortars on ur barbs and theyre gone...
Im th9 and I always attack using 12 giants, 8 wbs, 90~ archers, 30 gobs and 5 barbs.
I use the 5 barbs to activate obvious traps, if any.
I use the gobs incase its collectors heaven, also nice to send a gob train into a base if ur giants and k/q clean out the defence.
I feel my army comp can easily be used for collectors raid with the gobs and archers. But the big thingy here is that i can EASY go on a TH9 de raid. Even if the base got some decent def and walls, 12 giants, and maybe throw in a heal spell, your gonna reach the core and the de storage.
I feel like bringing in giants helps alot for those tougher raids.. maxed or at least close to maxed th8 with filled up storages are easy to raid with 12 giants (note: i got lvl 6 giants..)
The total cost of that army is like 80-90 K elixir. Not too expensive imo, but not as cheap as a pure barch army.. But its alot more flexible, and i honestly dont use all of that army unless i have to. A decent th9 or a good th8 and im gonna use it all. but for most attacks i got like 3-5 giants left, maybe some wb as well..
As far as spells go, i like to pack 3 heal and 1 rage. I rarely use any spells, but if i do its a 99% chance its a heal spell. note; 1 heal spell. This is usually used to get into core, or heal up the giants if i need them to go further inn.
I got the rage as a backup incase i need archer queen to go ham, say shes inside the core and she needs to go crazy to get all the storages around the core.
Also it takes the army 20-25 mins to cook, not sure how long pure barch takes but its like 15-20~ mins isnt it?
Edit2: I have tried ALOT of diff. leagues and troph range. i find ALOT more good and filled up th8, and inactive collectors heaven in gold 2, just by 1550-1650 trophies. As soon as im over 1700 i need to push "next" alot more times than when im at 1600. i dont know why its so much better for me at this range, but this is a fact as far as my experience goes.. Gold 1 is horrible imo, gold 3 contains too many shiiit bases.
I use 2 healers, 12 giants, 40 barbs, 40 archers, 36 goblins and 8 wb and have heal and rage ready when I need. Not the cheapest army but much more fun than barch/bam and I can usually take all the loot when I find some. I hate to pass good storage loot because I have to weak army. It gives me a good laugh when BARCHers try to raid my base. Even if their army are cheap they never go positive.
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Originally Posted by n3r0s
I agree, i tried barch but i hated the fact that some bases i just had to skip cus barch sux when dealing vs a decent base.. I did healers a while ago as well, but eventually it takes too long to cook em.. and sometimes they just straight up die unless u got a balloon or something to tank the air bombs..
also i had like 30-40 barbs myself, but i find them to be usless as soon as you reach core. This is because u usually dont have more wbs left or the wbs are not reaching deeper into the base. All the barbs just gets stuck at diff. walls and end up dying.. with arches they can at least shoot over the walls.. i found myself ripping out my hair when all i had left where like 20 barbs and thers some juicy storages just behind that wall.. but they all just stand there and dies,, had it been archers they could have sniped the storages..
my 2 cents: barbs < Archers
Barch is suitable for collector raid.
Thanks for the advice guys, it seems that barch would work if collector raids were still suitable. I can still find collector raids, but it seems that there are some juicy bases which giants/archers/bk/aq would be better suited at dealing with. One guy who i've been following who attacked me a long time ago runs 16 giants/the rest archers, he has all level 9 walls and some 10 now too. I'm guessing that it must work pretty damn well. Plus level 6 giants seem pretty OP vs level 8 THs. Was basically making this thread because I'm going to upgrade my archers to level 6 asap, but was curious as to whether go giants level 6 or barbs level 6 first. But, from the sounds of it, giants level 6 seems to be better first.
definitly go for giants over barbs, any day.Quote:
Originally Posted by markness
Also, vs th8, even maxed ones, 12-15 giants is gonna wreck his day..
Usually need to bring a heal spell, cus the giants all get pretty tired like halfway in there, 1 heal spell heals them right back up and with those arches and aq behind them its no problem getting all 6 th8 storages..
The question is the best farming army.
If the best means the army which gets you the most gold an hour, I would say barch or bam.
Its not the most fun way but they are still the most effective in my oppinion.
You do have to raid in sessions instead of single attacks though.
How often do you find inactive bases tho?Quote:
Originally Posted by xaboetje
I dont know about you, but i find more rich th8's and some wealthy th9 than i find inactive bases with cash..
Im around 2000 and I find enough bases. With BAM I can still farm 1mil+ an hour. I can't do that with giants.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
But can you get all that loot in those wealthy th9 bases?
Most times if they are wealthy, they are good designed too. And with just giants and archers its hard to get all the loot from such base.
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Originally Posted by xaboetje
With giants im about 500-800k pr hour depending on bases i find..
I usually get all the loot from wealthy th9, tho it usually cost me a heal spell.
Been using the same army since th7... 12 giant, 8wb, 36barb, 36archer, 36gob 4 wiz. Works out perfectly even in the barracks with 3 giants 2wb 9 barbs 9 arch 9 gob and 1 wiz in each. This helps slim down time remaking army's.... Clash a lot at work and have to keep phone time down... Since I've gotten to th9 I've added 10 minions to finish off the 220 troops. Throwing the 4 wiz in after I dump all my troops helps more than people realize. We all know lvl5 wiz vaporize stuff and it's great watching them walk behind my giants and empty storages. If I'm raiding for gold throw in a rage spell for that extra push. I will argue with anyone til I die that wiz are essential to a good loot raid. Currently floating between gold 1 and crystal 3 and have plenty of rushed th9s and 8s to wipe out.
barch is the best, but i add im 10 minions to go for the storgaes
Get to champ then gowipe for de and govaho for elixer
220 archers, farm at gold league.
I never attack less than 300k/300k. Lots of dead bases with that all in the collectors, in which case I don't even use all 220 archers.
Because of that and the queue system, I can usually attack 6-8 times in 30 minutes. Because I average well over 300k/300k, that's about 2.5 to 3 mil gold and 2.5 to 3 mil elixir in 30 minutes. Every time.
Throw in another 8-10 attacks randomly through the day and I build 8 to 10 lvl 10 walls a day.
or a TH9 The best and cheapest looting army is 12 Giants, 160 Archers , 2 rage, 4 quake League Crystal 3-1
Cost right now is 106600 Purple (this will increase 60k when the rage event finishes BUT still UBER cheap) 500 Black I use this on my TH9 account I have videos of my TH10 using it
But simply look for only dead bases with empty storages, and high loot (that means the collectors have the loot)
Pick off the outer collectors then use the giants to take damage while you drop archers behind them to clean up dont worry about stars only loot
YOU WILL CLEAN UP WITH THIS!!!
https://youtu.be/0v794K6QVTM
26 loons....45 minions.....3 rage...1 jump.....1 haste, perfect farming army