Gem reward for winning clan wars?

How would you know? Have you done the numbers? What experience do you have with free gem use?

I'm working on my 5th Builder's Hut, and once I get that, I'd be free to use gems on other things. Granted I don't know how good a person's gem income is in TH8+ but I suspect it's good for awhile, given the total gems in achivements, but that's onetime use. Early on, that's not the case.

From my experience, from start (to being 'tricked' into using gems in the tutorial) to my beginings as a TH7, gems are 'too awesome to use' expept for Builder's Huts. Not using them for Builder's Huts is generally seen as not a good move (to put it kindly). An incress in free gems could break that mindset.

Actually now that I think about (yes.. shooting down my own argument) a different requirment for Builder's Huts would better solve that early on gameplay issue.

For those of you who say that this literally minimal bonus would steal money from Supercell have no sense in consumer behavior. If the game were to provide more gems even by a little it would help many players to actually spend their gems, instead of hoarding them away. This use in gems would promote a sense of worth and can potentially make players buy gems. Let's not do that though because 5 gems which is only 5 cents that can be easily generated through the game will bankrupt Supercell.

not sure if any of you see the big picture, at all. For the top 3 clans, sc gives away tons of gems. however they only give the bulk away to the top 10 most important clan members. If Supercell gave 15 gems to each member of a war who won and scored 5-6 stars, they'd give away maybe 100 per clan. This encourages people to A) be more strategic, B) spend more time on the game, C) lose tons of resources for need of getting the small bonus of gems, D) make players now need to purchase all this with more gems, E) get players hooked into the cycle of burning time and resources to get small tastes of gems just to spend them to get more. It adds nothing to the gem economy and still provides that lust for gems that players will now buy gems to earn gems to lose gems to buy gems to earn em to waste em to purchase em to gain em to toss em to consume em to accumulate em

This is BY FAR the best idea to not be implemented yet.

I just cancelled a clan war search after 2 hours of not finding a match. Why? Because more and more people have decided clan wars aren't worth it as you can make more loot from regular attacks.

The amount of gems rewarded could easily be offset by the amount currently given for removing obstacles, so please stop w/ the idiocy about Super Cell losing money by rewarding gems when they just hand em out for nothing.

Also, Super Cell should be more concerned with losing money from people losing interest since nobody wars anymore rather than any perceived loss from rewarding people who actually play and enjoy the game.

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Originally Posted by shadowdante

For those of you who say that this literally minimal bonus would steal money from Supercell have no sense in consumer behavior. If the game were to provide more gems even by a little it would help many players to actually spend their gems, instead of hoarding them away. This use in gems would promote a sense of worth and can potentially make players buy gems. Let's not do that though because 5 gems which is only 5 cents that can be easily generated through the game will bankrupt Supercell.

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Nice to hear a different point of view on this for once. :) I mention the 'too awesome to use' phrase often in context to gems to people (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...ooAwesomeToUse) as a reference to that kind of human behavour in hording.
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Argument could be said that the small rewards add up after a while, and could cause problems. But it's hard to really say, without some hard numbers, what the right balance is in free gems to make both players happy(er) and Supercell more profitable.

Too few gems, and people don't get a feel for the use of gems, or tempted by gem-able features, and just don't use them, and therefore doesn't bother buying them.

Too many free gems and then players feel no reason to buy them.

Many people in this argument understand the latter, but maybe not the former.

Another complication with dealing with customers is that giving something to a customer/player is a lot easier than taking away. Don't have to look far for an example of this than with the Using Elixir of Walls feature players are pitching a fit over.
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Anyway, I feel that another minor free gem source would be good, but that's up to Supercell, since it is their game. But this does remind me, should make a new post relating to Builder's Huts.

OP I'm not sure why you made a thread on a forum if you're just going to ♥♥♥♥ on everyone that disagrees with you. Also, no need to tell people that have literally no concept of something just because they disagree with you. (That's more for the others) Have any of you studied economics? I mean actually studied, not just heard about. If you have, you know there isn't one single obvious answer. Both sides here have good points, but you have to consider the position of SC, whether you agree with them or not. They're a business, which means they want to make money. Period. A business does what's in its best financial interest. If they thought giving gems as a war reward would make them more money, they would do it. They pay people smarter than us to make these decisions.

Sorry for the double post, but while typing, a couple more posts came up.

Wow, suddenly support for the idea! But 15 gems maybe a bit much. I'm sure Supercell will likely start small and work up towards optimal levels. They did try to do that with league bonuses and war loot bonuses; all for the stated reason I said, easier to give more than to take away.

It is kind of cynical to say they only care about money. Sure, money pays the bills, wadges, and whatnot, but if it was all about the money, they wouldn't have had the drive to put effort into a fun game they likely thought was a neat idea.

Later on that could change. People can lose focus on what really made thier business grow and just think of the buttom line. But I don't feel as though that has happened to them... (yet?)

good thing their going to start paying me soon ( i really hope so, i love supercell and i wanna join their corps)

Anywho, its late and ima head to bed after this point. Supercell is a business but money isn't necessarily its only goal.. At some point in time its all about setting up major twists that will introduce more players into buying gems.

Example: SC give away 50 gems per player in winning war clan who participated for maybe 5 months. Then they claim to suddenly realize it was a bad idea (like the elixir walls), and retract it. Unfortunately, for most players, wars have A) become regular and B) become their fix for gems. Without their supplementation, they feel like they need to get the gems some other way, after all they spent 5 months using gems and had gotten so used to using them they just don't understand how to go without. Now the tables flip to supercell's interest in which SEE makes tons of money off the marketing scheme as more players feel compelled to purchase gems to supplement their lack of war gems.

This above is why Supercell might wish to carry out the idea, but don't be surprised if they trick you all into being less stingy,.

What would have gotten me to fork over a few bucks was that whole (Red) thing for the iOS App Store (or whatever it's called). But it wasn't supported for Android OS people, which disappointed me a lot.

If you see my seasonal troop donation numbers, it would make sense. lol But I am still picky on where I spend my money, even on donations.