Why we NEED an opt in/out feature ASAP

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Originally Posted by Gama321

Other things they can do are reserve donations when people leave, make upgrading heroes available etc.

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These two things would make a huge difference (especially the heroes policy).

90% of the time that we kick/re-invite it's because the player will be without one or more heroes and doesn't feel like fighting at anything less than full strength. Of course, this is why Supercell is unlikely to ever change the policy, as so many just gem the training time so they can stay in the fight.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood

These two things would make a huge difference (especially the heroes policy).

90% of the time that we kick/re-invite it's because the player will be without one or more heroes and doesn't feel like fighting at anything less than full strength. Of course, this is why Supercell is unlikely to ever change the policy, as so many just gem the training time so they can stay in the fight.

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Yeah I don't think we would see heroes available, but in my eyes it is still more likely and more preferable than opt/out.
Ive had heroes upgrading a hellova lot since cw came out so I'm not very fond of the idea with my heroes being almost done now anyway:p

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Originally Posted by Gama321

Yeah I don't think we would see heroes available, but in my eyes it is still more likely and more preferable than opt/out.
Ive had heroes upgrading a hellova lot since cw came out so I'm not very fond of the idea with my heroes being almost done now anyway:p

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Congrats on nearing the end of the road with your heroes!

I'm a TH9, and mine are 23/20, so they're getting good, but still have quite a ways to go...

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Originally Posted by Kruzkal

This is like watching someone lobby for fracking hahahahaha!

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Your insightful whit just astounds me....I mean yourself.

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Originally Posted by Mobad

Your insightful whit just astounds me....I mean yourself.

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You're welcome. It's a simile on your seemingly "lack of awareness" of the negative impacts of your suggestions to the greater picture due to personal selfish desires. Quite apt really.

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Originally Posted by Kruzkal

This is like watching someone lobby for fracking hahahahaha!

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Pop quiz, do you know why after all the issues that have been raised about it the majority public wound up going along with frakking? (this has nothing to do with the thread, I just want to see if you know)

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Originally Posted by Gama321

I did read it and you are right there was a lot of meaningless banter, even more than the zapping threads. Arguments on both sides were particularly fallacious this time around. I suggest you read the other threads about this topic to see some of the other arguments. The fact remains that points about it encouraging warring without everyone was not addressed at all. Of course you can already do this by kick/reinvite but that's a short-term solution, opt-out would effectively split a lot of clans into two.

Of course, people do try to 'skew' the system to there benefit but without knowing the matchmaking formula this would be difficult anyway. Furthermore if people are doing something the devs do not like, I very much doubt they will turn around and encourage people exploiting the system and provide the facilities to do it as efficiently as possible.

There is no reason for there to be people sitting out of wars in the long-term, if they are they need to find another clan, if they're not you can just kick/reinvite. Rather than make it easier for people to sit they are trying to remove the disincentives of warring so more people don't mind warring, for example by increasing loot bonus and increasing % for the losers. I think that path is much more preferable than allowing people to op out. Other things they can do are reserve donations when people leave, make upgrading heroes available etc.

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that I have participated in many of those othe threads. I have no need to re read them. Been there done that.

as you and I have already stated the kick reinvite currently allows for members in a clan to be non war participants. It has been going on for quit sometime and im sure sc is very aware of the process. It's been neither approved or discouraged in any way.

would I want permenant non warring members in my clan. No. Those are people I forget to reinvite. I'm old it's excusable, or so I say. Would I allow people that don't want to war as often. Yes. Do I think it will encourage a split culture within a clan. No more so than already exists between th levels which is there but minimal. Will other clans allow non warring members. Yes. They already do and there is nothing short of not allowing reinvites for a period of time after kicking that will stop that. Personally I would have zero problem with that.

Yup up still don't see the problem as any different that the current status quo.

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Originally Posted by Kruzkal

You're welcome. It's a simile on your seemingly "lack of awareness" of the negative impacts of your suggestions to the greater picture due to personal selfish desires. Quite apt really.

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back to the insults and name calling i see.

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Originally Posted by rwelshjr

Pop quiz, do you know why after all the issues that have been raised about it the majority public wound up going along with frakking? (this has nothing to do with the thread, I just want to see if you know)

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Actually I think you'll find the public largely opposed to fracking. It is the politicians with vested interest in the industry that are pushing for it. Texas and New York for example have banned fracking due to resident opposition. But anyway the relevance was highlighted in my previous reply. There is no need to diverge into political matter in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Kruzkal

Actually I think you'll find the public largely opposed to fracking. It is the politicians with vested interest in the industry that are pushing for it. Texas and New York for example have banned fracking due to resident opposition. But anyway the relevance was highlighted in my previous reply. There is no need to diverge into political matter in this thread.

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It it was an attempt to be insulting.