Language setting has no bearing on available loot - PROOF

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December 13th, 2014
badfish1979

Language setting has no bearing on available loot - PROOF

Anyone with a basic understanding of client-server architecture and access to two devices connected to the same account can see clearly that changing languages will not affect the potential loot you can find when searching for a raid.

It's extremely simple:

Log into your account on device A and change your language to Chinese, and log off.
Now, log into device B. You will see that the language setting you selected on device A has no effect on device B.
You can do the same thing with music and sound effects with the same result.

What this means is that client settings (language, music on/off, sound effects on/off) are stored on the client, not the server.

Furthermore, every base you come across on a raid search is a base of someone that is offline. If the language setting is stored on the client only, what function would cause them to be placed in a queue in which only devices with a certain language setting would be able to find them?

Myth debunked :)
December 13th, 2014
HellfireJoey

MAYBE.. what they think is by changing the language setting to (ie Chinese), they will be moved to a different server that houses most of the chinese COC community and when you go to the world chat you'll see more chatters from China instead of a different country.

Edit : About your post. regarding servers, it could be that when you log in to your device A (english), it connects to US or other countries who speaks/chats in English while logging to Device B (chinese) it gets you a Chinese server or queue.
December 13th, 2014
VermaJi

I dont know the technicality but here is why i think i get exceptional loot on switching to random language. You go into lets say japanese lang. when its really late at night or very early morning(in japan) and you will always find amazing loot there. Maybe supercell has quota system of pushing semi inactive accounts towards the zones where people are playing lesser. This also achieves the aim of keeping the interest alive in that zone because we all would agree unarguably, loot is the single most satisfying reason to keep playing.
December 13th, 2014
Lloopy14

Hasn't there been a really long explanation to debunk this myth previously? I vaguely recall one
December 13th, 2014
badfish1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellfireJoey

About your post. regarding servers, it could be that when you log in to your device A (english), it connects to US or other countries who speaks/chats in English while logging to Device B (chinese) it gets you a Chinese server or queue.

It matches clients with the same language setting for global chat only.

Searching for a raid does not connect you to other clients - those bases are offline and are stored on the server. It doesn't matter what the owner of each of those bases had their language setting set to before they last logged off because that setting is stored on the client device only.

If you are implying that those bases in the queue have a geographical location - how is this possible? You would have to assume that when a client connects to an account, the server records the geographical location from where the client connected through their ISP and then store that base in a queue with similar geographical locations when they log off.

Ignoring the fact that there is no reason to do this, how then would changing your language affect which queue of bases grouped by geographical location you would be matched with? What does language even have to do with geographical locations? For example, if a person that lives in Spain and had their language set to Spanish logs off (making his base become available to be raided since he is offline), and you (living in the United States of America) change your language to Spanish, does this mean the possibility of finding the Spanish player's becomes available? Does this also mean that all countries whose primary language is Spanish (countries in Latin America, Spain) are all grouped together?

And what if - although being from Spain - that same player had selected German in his settings on his device before logging off? Is the fact that he connected from Spain the primary factor of which queue his base will be grouped with, since the server does not store his language setting (it is only stored on his device). In fact, the owner of that account might even have his account on 3 devices - his iPhone set to German, his iPad set to Russian, and his Android tablet set to Swedish. But these language settings are stored only on these three devices, not the server.

To put it simply, there is no "Chinese queue" because there is no language associated with the bases in the queue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VermaJi

I dont know the technicality but here is why i think i get exceptional loot on switching to random language. You go into lets say japanese lang. when its really late at night or very early morning(in japan) and you will always find amazing loot there. Maybe supercell has quota system of pushing semi inactive accounts towards the zones where people are playing lesser. This also achieves the aim of keeping the interest alive in that zone because we all would agree unarguably, loot is the single most satisfying reason to keep playing.

What does language have to do with geographical location?

People in Spain speak Spanish. So do people in Mexico.

People in Portugal speak Portuguese. So do people in Brazil.

But once you understand that language settings are not stored on the server, this is irrelevant anyway.
December 13th, 2014
badfish1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lloopy14

Hasn't there been a really long explanation to debunk this myth previously? I vaguely recall one

That thread used a port monitor to show the server location doesn't change.

I'm showing that language settings are not even stored on the server, which is further proof that this is a myth.
December 13th, 2014
Randalthor

The server side is load balanced in the Amazon cloud. SC likely has servers in multiple Amazon data centers. For instance they likely have servers in the US, UK, and Asia. If you are in America then you should be directed to the American Data Center for better response. When you change your language you are forced to restart the game. The new connection is made to the local Data center. You are placed on a server based on server load and some algorithm for language selection.

That's why when you select a language during their late night\early morning hours (logged out, sleeping, and shield running out) you find better collector raids. The new connection puts you on a server that is not very busy based on basic cloud load balancing principles plus the preferred server for that language. Of course, the longer you stay on that server, more folks are added to that server and Collector raids begin to disappear due to competing searches.

That's my theory anyways.
December 13th, 2014
badfish1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randalthor

The server side is load balanced in the Amazon cloud. SC likely has servers in multiple Amazon data centers. For instance they likely have servers in the US, UK, and Asia. If you are in America then you should be directed to the American Data Center for better response. When you change your language you are forced to restart the game. The new connection is made to the local Data center. You are placed on a server based on server load and some algorithm for language selection.

That's why when you select a language during their late night\early morning hours (logged out, sleeping, and shield running out) you find better collector raids. The new connection puts you on a server that is not very busy based on basic cloud load balancing principles plus the preferred server for that language. Of course, the longer you stay on that server, more folks are added to that server and Collector raids begin to disappear due to competing searches.

That's my theory anyways.

Who are you referring to when you say "their late night/early morning hours"?

If those bases are offline and the language setting they had selected before they logged off is not stored on the server, how does this affect anything at all?

Again, there is no language or geographical location associated with an offline base.
December 13th, 2014
OurNameinLights

Switching languages does nothing to loot. At most all it does is change the queue you're in (which you can do just by reloading your game, because switching language forces you to reload) but any myths that tell you that switching it to a region who is sleeping or morning or whatever for collectors is wrong.

But hey, if it ups your spirits/expectations and makes this game more enjoyable for you because of this, then go for it. It is quite a popular placebo effect :p
December 13th, 2014
Camja11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randalthor

The server side is load balanced in the Amazon cloud. SC likely has servers in multiple Amazon data centers. For instance they likely have servers in the US, UK, and Asia. If you are in America then you should be directed to the American Data Center for better response. When you change your language you are forced to restart the game. The new connection is made to the local Data center. You are placed on a server based on server load and some algorithm for language selection.

That's why when you select a language during their late night\early morning hours (logged out, sleeping, and shield running out) you find better collector raids. The new connection puts you on a server that is not very busy based on basic cloud load balancing principles plus the preferred server for that language. Of course, the longer you stay on that server, more folks are added to that server and Collector raids begin to disappear due to competing searches.

That's my theory anyways.

i think THIS is the most probable explanation.

It works, for whatever reason, so those that try to argue it, it is a losing arguement.
December 13th, 2014
badfish1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camja11

i think THIS is the most probable explanation.

It works, for whatever reason, so those that try to argue it, it is a losing arguement.

Please explain to me how those offline bases you find in a raid search have a language or geographical location associated with them.
December 13th, 2014
Randalthor

Quote:

Originally Posted by badfish1979

Who are you referring to when you say "their late night/early morning hours"?

If those bases are offline and the language setting they had selected before they logged off is not stored on the server, how does this affect anything at all?

Again, there is no language or geographical location associated with an offline base.

I live in America. The use of 'their' refers to another time zone. For instance, I could change my language to Chinese where its 4 AM at the moment. That will force the game to reconnect to the US Data Center, put me on a slower server, and likely on a server that has Chinese language related responses loaded in memory to improve responsiveness.

I agree that you connect to a Data Center that is geographically close to you. That is besides the point.

I agree that when you log off from the game, your base still is hosted on the server you were connected to when actively playing. That is besides the point.

They have dozens if not tens of dozens of servers across multiple American Data Centers. Load Balancing would put me on a server not at peak load. That means a server that hosts some bases not being actively used. Add in native language to the algorithm and you are placed on a server with even more inactive bases.

A quick search for Amazons Data Center locations show 9 total. I believe they have more locations because Microsoft has 19 Azure Data Centers but Amazon is clearly the #1 Cloud host in the world. Fun fact, Netflix, is hosted in the Amazon cloud and they consume 40% of Amazons cloud bandwidth at any given time of day.

http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/la...ity-zones.html
December 13th, 2014
badfish1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randalthor

I live in America. The use of 'their' refers to another time zone. For instance, I could change my language to Chinese where its 4 AM at the moment.

However:

1. Language has nothing to do with geographical location (what time is in in the Spanish language? This doesn't make sense).
2. Language settings are stored on the client's device only, not on the server.
3. All bases that can be raided are offline bases, therefore no language setting is associated with a base that can be raided.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randalthor

That will force the game to reconnect to the US Data Center, put me on a slower server, and likely on a server that has Chinese language related responses loaded in memory to improve responsiveness.

I agree that you connect to a Data Center that is geographically close to you. That is besides the point.

I agree that when you log off from the game, your base still is hosted on the server you were connected to when actively playing. That is besides the point.

This is completely false information. If your offline base was only hosted on the server you were connected to when actively playing, and this caused it to be included only in queues that have an active connection to that server, why is it that any base can be viewed/visited at any time?

The language setting is simply for:
1. Displaying the user interface in the selected language
2. Determining which global chat the user will be placed in

This language setting is only stored on the client device - it is not associated with the base on the server after the user has logged off. I already proved this in my original post by giving the example of the two devices set to different languages.
December 13th, 2014
SaberSworn

When I change my language settings to Japanese, almost every single base I come across has a username and a clan name in japanese (occasional English), whereas in NA almost all of them are English. That's enough to convince me that language settings change the bases I find. Daytime in NA is nighttime in Japan so I'll just attack the inactive bases.
December 13th, 2014
Randalthor

Quote:

Originally Posted by badfish1979

However: 
 
1. Language has nothing to do with geographical location (what time is in in the Spanish language? This doesn't make sense). 
2. Language settings are stored on the client's device only, not on the server. 
3. All bases that can be raided are offline bases, therefore no language setting is associated with a base that can be raided. 
 
 
 
This is completely false information. If your offline base was only hosted on the server you were connected to when actively playing, and this caused it to be included only in queues that have an active connection to that server, why is it that any base can be viewed/visited at any time? 
 
The language setting is simply for: 
1. Displaying the user interface in the selected language 
2. Determining which global chat the user will be placed in 
 
This language setting is only stored on the client device - it is not associated with the base on the server after the user has logged off.

 

Don't limit yourself to just the client side of the equation. Most of the magic happens on the server side for any cloud based application. When opening the client app you are placed on the same server or a new server based on the load at that time. The algorithm could be based on just available hardware resources. e.g. CPU, RAM, DISK I\O, Network load. I think a service with millions of concurrent users will need more than that for an algorithm. e.g. Language.

Your base is ultimately stored in a Database with your very own row. The row will hold data like your TH level, number of builders, number of TH 11 Archer Towers and their placement on the map. It has information like last logon time and if your shield is active, when it started and how much longer until it runs out.

Viewing a base, say scouting someone for revenge, just queries your row in the Database and displays it to you.That Database resides in every data center....if they designed it right.

Sorry for all the gibberish. I removed most of it from my response. Seems like their Forum DB is having issues.
December 13th, 2014
badfish1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randalthor

 
 Don't limit yourself to just the client side of the equation. Most of the magic happens on the server side for any cloud based application. When opening the client app you are placed on the same server or a new server based on the load at that time. The algorithm could be based on just available hardware resources. e.g. CPU, RAM, DISK I\O, Network load. I think a service with millions of concurrent users will need more than that for an algorithm. e.g. Language Your base is ultimately stored in a Database with your very own row. The row will hold data like your TH level, number of builders, number of TH 11 Archer Towers and their placement on the map. It has information like last logon time and if your shield is active, when it started and how much longer until it runs out. Viewing a base, say scouting someone for revenge, just queries your row in the Database and displays it to you. That Database resides in every data center....if they designed it right.   

The point is, the language setting is client-specific and is not stored along with this information. Language settings are stored only on the device. Just like TH level, number of builders, etc. are NOT stored on the client's device, they are stored on the server. But client-specific data such as user settings would be stored on the device.

This is why your language setting has no bearing on which bases you will find when searching for a raid.
December 13th, 2014
Randalthor

So be it. May you find bases with easy loot and have royals who know how to prioritize important targets.
December 13th, 2014
TrainGangJohn

there is a simpler way to debunk the myth.

push up to say 2900 trophies or whatever point these days where you see the same base again after nexting a bunch of times. Switch language servers. Next a bunch until you find the base again. I've done this many times.

the bases you see in search have zero to do with what language you choose.
December 13th, 2014
badfish1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaberSworn

When I change my language settings to Japanese, almost every single base I come across has a username and a clan name in japanese (occasional English), whereas in NA almost all of them are English. That's enough to convince me that language settings change the bases I find. Daytime in NA is nighttime in Japan so I'll just attack the inactive bases.

I find the opposite to be true. Changing my language settings has absolutely no effect on the languages of the display names and clan names of the bases I come across when doing a search. It's completely random on every language setting.

But you are welcome to change your language and take screenshots of the base names you come across and post them here :)
December 13th, 2014
Lloopy14

Quote:

Originally Posted by badfish1979

That thread used a port monitor to show the server location doesn't change.

I'm showing that language settings are not even stored on the server, which is further proof that this is a myth.

Ah ok. I see the difference.
December 14th, 2014
Snarg

I don't have the resources (or time/energy) to prove it, but my postulation is that the server cluster you connect to is based on the region set when you first create the game, not on language.

If someone has a rooted device, and they don't mind doing some testing, try this: Set your phone to, say, Europe. Install CoC. Connect in your native language and make note of what data center you connect to. It should be a data center in Europe. It only makes sense. Now, change your language to, say, Chinese. Connect and see what data center you connected through. It will be Europe again.

Now, wipe CoC off of your phone and change your region to US. Install CoC and see what data center you connect to. I will bet it will be a US data center. Change the language to Chinese and check again. Probably going to be US again.

Those who have a little technical know-how and use CoC on an 'unauthorized device' can check this fairly easily. I could check it but I'm not going to bother because I already know it's a waste of time. Changing your language does not change the data center you connect to and will have no effect on the loot available.
December 14th, 2014
badfish1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snarg

I don't have the resources (or time/energy) to prove it, but my postulation is that the server cluster you connect to is based on the region set when you first create the game, not on language.

If someone has a rooted device, and they don't mind doing some testing, try this: Set your phone to, say, Europe. Install CoC. Connect in your native language and make note of what data center you connect to. It should be a data center in Europe. It only makes sense. Now, change your language to, say, Chinese. Connect and see what data center you connected through. It will be Europe again.

Now, wipe CoC off of your phone and change your region to US. Install CoC and see what data center you connect to. I will bet it will be a US data center. Change the language to Chinese and check again. Probably going to be US again.

Those who have a little technical know-how and use CoC on an 'unauthorized device' can check this fairly easily. I could check it but I'm not going to bother because I already know it's a waste of time. Changing your language does not change the data center you connect to and will have no effect on the loot available.

I agree with you. This would explain why certain people from different non-English-speaking countries sometimes say that whenever they switch their language setting to English, everyone on global is speaking in their native language - not English.
December 14th, 2014
known

Quote:

Originally Posted by badfish1979

Anyone with a basic understanding of client-server architecture and access to two devices connected to the same account can see clearly that changing languages will not affect the potential loot you can find when searching for a raid.

It's extremely simple:

Log into your account on device A and change your language to Chinese, and log off.
Now, log into device B. You will see that the language setting you selected on device A has no effect on device B.
You can do the same thing with music and sound effects with the same result.

What this means is that client settings (language, music on/off, sound effects on/off) are stored on the client, not the server.

Furthermore, every base you come across on a raid search is a base of someone that is offline. If the language setting is stored on the client only, what function would cause them to be placed in a queue in which only devices with a certain language setting would be able to find them?

Myth debunked :)

I posted this months ago... Never steal my posts again.
December 14th, 2014
badfish1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by known

I posted this months ago... Never steal my posts again.

I can't believe I missed your post from months ago since I'm subscribed to you and follow every little thing you do :rolleyes:

But seriously, I just now looked up your post, and it's dated in November. However, my post HERE is dated a couple of months before yours.

So don't steal my posts :cool:
December 17th, 2014
mauretto

Quote:

Originally Posted by badfish1979

The point is, the language setting is client-specific and is not stored along with this information. Language settings are stored only on the device. Just like TH level, number of builders, etc. are NOT stored on the client's device, they are stored on the server. But client-specific data such as user settings would be stored on the device.

This is why your language setting has no bearing on which bases you will find when searching for a raid.

It's not completely true. Language settings are client side data, but they are passed as argument at connection time for sure. Starting global chat you'll find only language specific people. How could it possible? :rolleyes:

I guess language settings affect the loot hunting. Too many unexplained cases.
December 17th, 2014
Sladjan

I think that language have some connection. If I use english language I load most th6 bcs I am th7, if switch to japanese, I seen tons of loot and tons of DE in poor th 7/8 bases.

So I loot DE on japanese language. Maybe this is not japanese server, but maybe is server different than "mine".

I see huge difference. And btw on japanese language user are very low active. I zapp /attack and 2 days nobody attack me or revenge. Funny and good for me.
December 17th, 2014
Superfinch30

I love what youre trying to do here.

But they just not going to listen. No matter how many times i try to convince clan mates, they are all clamouring for everyone to go to dutch because the loot is great, or a particular language, because its heir bedtime.....sigh.

I DO encourage people to reload game regularly when in master 1 up to about 3600🏆s, as on every new search it looks for closest trophies to you first. Reload game, shuffle/change search queue, changing language just happens to be quickest and easiest way to do it. The 'journey' has an effect, 'destination' irrelevant.
December 17th, 2014
Kirky

I don't believe that language affects loot. Taking a step back, this would be a very strange effect to observe. There are also certain perceptual effects that can mislead individuals, the confirmation bias etc.

However, having said this, I see no proof here.

It is a fact language is stored client side. However, we know that this has some server side effects as you are placed into another global chat. How do we know that there are no other server side effects? We don't.

I don't believe the port monitor was adequate proof either, this just showed where the device was connected. It says nothing about functionality server side.

I don't believe there is an effect, but I've yet to see any convincing proof that there isn't.
December 17th, 2014
Sladjan

Server dont affect loot. But I think affect users. I dont know how every time on japanese language find tons of resources and DE even on silver 1 and every base have similar loot. Like people dont play often but they are not innactive. Everytime I back on english different story. Dont know why.

I tryed to reload japanese language and english and always same. Myth or not I enjoy on japanese "server". Nobody attack me and easy loot.
December 17th, 2014
Wokki

Quote:

Originally Posted by VermaJi

I dont know the technicality but here is why i think i get exceptional loot on switching to random language. You go into lets say japanese lang. when its really late at night or very early morning(in japan) and you will always find amazing loot there. Maybe supercell has quota system of pushing semi inactive accounts towards the zones where people are playing lesser. This also achieves the aim of keeping the interest alive in that zone because we all would agree unarguably, loot is the single most satisfying reason to keep playing.

Are you stupid? Language is just setting. It doesnt affect the game at all! Omg
December 17th, 2014
GeneSplice

Quote:

Originally Posted by badfish1979

Please explain to me how those offline bases you find in a raid search have a language or geographical location associated with them.

Most people can't explain it because most of us don't understand all the ins and out and technicalities associated with it.

I'm sure you haven't tested every single possible reason for why this might or might not work either so you are not in a position to say you know for a fact it works or not.

What I do know is that at the times I play I can next forever in the english language and never find loot, but as soon as a change to Korean I find loaded bases. Works every day.

My whole clan does this and it works.

Edit: it could also simply be pure random luck.

It's possible I've been unlucky in the english language...every day...for 8 months straight and lucky in the korean language...every day...for 8 months straight. I'll take it.
December 17th, 2014
ChiefThomas

Makes sense, I suspected such.
December 17th, 2014
Superfinch30

Question for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneSplice

Most people can't explain it because most of us don't understand all the ins and out and technicalities associated with it.

I'm sure you haven't tested every single possible reason for why this might or might not work either so you are not in a position to say you know for a fact it works or not.

What I do know is that at the times I play I can next forever in the english language and never find loot, but as soon as a change to Korean I find loaded bases. Works every day.

My whole clan does this and it works.

Edit: it could also simply be pure random luck.

It's possible I've been unlucky in the english language...every day...for 8 months straight and lucky in the korean language...every day...for 8 months straight. I'll take it.

On those long, fruitless, lootless searches in english, did you reload game at any point, in same or any language? Would achieve same effect.
December 17th, 2014
pololo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfinch30

On those long, fruitless, lootless searches in english, did you reload game at any point, in same or any language? Would achieve same effect.

Agreed, changing language probably don't change anything, but as it makes you disconnect/reconnect you changed the server you are connected to, and here the camps it offers you to attak are not the same (but may be they are offering better loot, may be not)
December 17th, 2014
GeneSplice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfinch30

On those long, fruitless, lootless searches in english, did you reload game at any point, in same or any language? Would achieve same effect.

Exactly. Im not saying Im changing servers or anything by changing language. Im saying whatever change happens by reloading helps me find loot very fast.

Those long, fruitless nexting session are long gone. 20 nexts is too much for me.
December 17th, 2014
Superfinch30

Hurrah!

I think folks are catching on. Badfish can come out of the darkened room in which he was forced to lie, recovering from a migraine brought on by reading idiocy.
December 18th, 2014
badfish1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snarg

I don't have the resources (or time/energy) to prove it, but my postulation is that the server cluster you connect to is based on the region set when you first create the game, not on language.

If someone has a rooted device, and they don't mind doing some testing, try this: Set your phone to, say, Europe. Install CoC. Connect in your native language and make note of what data center you connect to. It should be a data center in Europe. It only makes sense. Now, change your language to, say, Chinese. Connect and see what data center you connected through. It will be Europe again.

Now, wipe CoC off of your phone and change your region to US. Install CoC and see what data center you connect to. I will bet it will be a US data center. Change the language to Chinese and check again. Probably going to be US again.

Those who have a little technical know-how and use CoC on an 'unauthorized device' can check this fairly easily. I could check it but I'm not going to bother because I already know it's a waste of time. Changing your language does not change the data center you connect to and will have no effect on the loot available.

Quote:

Originally Posted by badfish1979

I agree with you. This would explain why certain people from different non-English-speaking countries sometimes say that whenever they switch their language setting to English, everyone on global is speaking in their native language - not English.

More evidence that Snarg's post is accurate:

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...A-UK-Server%21
December 18th, 2014
badfish1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauretto

It's not completely true. Language settings are client side data, but they are passed as argument at connection time for sure. Starting global chat you'll find only language specific people. How could it possible? :rolleyes:

I guess language settings affect the loot hunting. Too many unexplained cases.

And what does global chat have to do with searching for a raid?

Every person you talk to on global chat is online.

Every base you find in a raid search is an offline base.

Since the language setting is stored only on the client's device - as you agree in your post - how is a language setting associated with an offline base?

Thinking that changing your language to Chinese will somehow allow you to find offline bases of people that live in China is about as reasonable as thinking that changing your language to Spanish will change the currency you can buy gems with to pesos.
December 18th, 2014
Warasin

Even if the OP is correct, there is the placebo effect here. That can't be argued.

I have found if loot is dry, I spin clockwise with my left hand on my nose for 30 seconds, loot immediately improves. It works every time. This works better than the language setting. I've tested both and so has my entire family and all of my friends, even those that don't play.
December 18th, 2014
badfish1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warasin

Even if the OP is correct, there is the placebo effect here. That can't be argued.

I have found if loot is dry, I spin clockwise with my left hand on my nose for 30 seconds, loot immediately improves. It works every time. This works better than the language setting. I've tested both and so has my entire family and all of my friends, even those that don't play.

However, it is important to note that in medicine, the placebo effect can actually cause an improvement in the patient's condition as a direct effect of their beliefs or expectations that the placebo itself was effective.

In CoC, numbers are numbers, and the actual available loot you find when searching for a raid is hard data which is in no way affected by your personal beliefs or expectations.

But I would agree with you that spinning clockwise with your left hand on your nose for 30 seconds is just as effective as changing your language (as long as you log off first before performing the ritual and then log back on) :cool:
December 18th, 2014
iDominate

♥♥♥♥ u dont all that fancy knowledge its common sense.

How does one get placed into a global server when they are offline..
December 18th, 2014
LordAmbreon

Loot sucks equally in all nationalities
December 18th, 2014
SpiritKiller

Too many replies that's too long, so i didn't read :D:D

SC has once confirmed that changing language doesn't affect anything. IDK where's the post tho.
December 18th, 2014
Snarg

Quote:

Originally Posted by iDominate

♥♥♥♥ u dont all that fancy knowledge its common sense.
How does one get placed into a global server when they are offline..

If it were common, than everyone would know it. If everyone knew it, nobody would post about it. But, people post about it all the time so, it must not be common sense.

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Originally Posted by SpiritKiller

Too many replies that's too long, so i didn't read :D:D
SC has once confirmed that changing language doesn't affect anything. IDK where's the post tho.

Then why did you bother replying? Remember, your post count means nothing.
December 18th, 2014
known

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Originally Posted by badfish1979

I can't believe I missed your post from months ago since I'm subscribed to you and follow every little thing you do :rolleyes:

But seriously, I just now looked up your post, and it's dated in November. However, my post HERE is dated a couple of months before yours.

So don't steal my posts :cool:

I know everything about this game, do not even pretend that you posted that before me. I posted that in 2013, now delete this thread immediately.
December 18th, 2014
luismaster

Both of you shut up and stop fighting in my forums.
December 19th, 2014
LordAmbreon

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Originally Posted by luismaster

Both of you shut up and stop fighting in my forums.

Lol what.....
December 19th, 2014
YourBoyAce

Why would "language setting" be the factor? There are countless other, more reliable (and better) measures Supercell could use *IF* they wanted to use this, such as your IP address. And I don't see why they would.
December 19th, 2014
Dinner07

[QUOTE=HellfireJoey;3434579]MAYBE.. what they think is by changing the language setting to (ie Chinese), they will be moved to a different server that houses most of the chinese COC community and when you go to the world chat you'll see more chatters from China instead of a different country.

/QUOTE]

I have tried this and often steal from the Chinese.
I have also fallen asleep in Chinese server and got hit with lots of Chinese bases.... so in conclusion I do believe the server changing connects you with majority of clashers who speaks that specific language.

I am not going to question it, so far it has worked for me to farm on different servers.

- dinner
December 19th, 2014
ztb29

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Originally Posted by Lloopy14

Hasn't there been a really long explanation to debunk this myth previously? I vaguely recall one

There has been one.....OP just isn't satisfied :rolleyes:
December 19th, 2014
badfish1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by ztb29

There has been one.....OP just isn't satisfied :rolleyes:

Exactly - because people are still posting things like this:

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Originally Posted by Dinner07

I have tried this and often steal from the Chinese.
I have also fallen asleep in Chinese server and got hit with lots of Chinese bases.... so in conclusion I do believe the server changing connects you with majority of clashers who speaks that specific language.

I am not going to question it, so far it has worked for me to farm on different servers.

- dinner
December 19th, 2014
badfish1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinner07

I have tried this and often steal from the Chinese.
I have also fallen asleep in Chinese server and got hit with lots of Chinese bases.... so in conclusion I do believe the server changing connects you with majority of clashers who speaks that specific language.

I am not going to question it, so far it has worked for me to farm on different servers.

- dinner

There is no "Chinese server" for offline bases.
December 22nd, 2014
iDominate

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Originally Posted by Snarg

If it were common, than everyone would know it. If everyone knew it, nobody would post about it. But, people post about it all the time so, it must not be common .

Wrong.
1. Common doesn't mean everyone
2. It doesn't get posted all the time.
Rarely infact.

Dont quote me with your assumptions thanks.
December 28th, 2014
Cossid

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Originally Posted by badfish1979

Anyone with a basic understanding of client-server architecture and access to two devices connected to the same account can see clearly that changing languages will not affect the potential loot you can find when searching for a raid.

It's extremely simple:

Log into your account on device A and change your language to Chinese, and log off.
Now, log into device B. You will see that the language setting you selected on device A has no effect on device B.
You can do the same thing with music and sound effects with the same result.

What this means is that client settings (language, music on/off, sound effects on/off) are stored on the client, not the server.

Furthermore, every base you come across on a raid search is a base of someone that is offline. If the language setting is stored on the client only, what function would cause them to be placed in a queue in which only devices with a certain language setting would be able to find them?

Myth debunked :)

Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but I figured OP might be interested in this finding.

Let me preface this by stating I program server/client applications, and do understand the point you make, however, I have found evidence that the server DOES store your language preference, at least temporarily.

Before I explain how I found this, I will say, I don't think language has any effect on loot what-so-ever. As you point out, the attack list is for offline bases, and I doubt they are pooled separately by language.

So on to my findings. There are a number of threads lingering around that indicate changing languages appears to help users bypass the 6-hour online time limit. This is what I was testing. The short answer conclusion to that test: it doesn't reset your online timer. Those experiencing it were probably offline for brief periods and luckily not attacked.

However, while testing this, I was on my tablet connected with my language set to German. I hit the 6 hour limit and was disconnected (during that 6 hour period, I was switching from English/Norsk/French/German, and just happened to end on German). However, the entire time, my phone was left on English. After I was disconnected on my tablet, I launched on my phone, and the 'take a break' message came up in English. I obviously did not make it into the game. However, after I attempted to connect from my phone, the next 3 push notifications I received (troops ready for battle, spells ready for battle, enemy is attacking your village) on my phone now all arrived in German. After I successfully reconnected with a client in English, all future notifications returned to English. So it appears the server does store your client language from the last successful login.
December 30th, 2014
Smalls

Here's just more proof that language has zero effect on loot.

I was in the middle of my typical marathon nexting session so I changed my language this morning from English to Norsk (mainly because I was just hoping to change my luck and not because I think it has any true bearing on loot) and guess what?

After the game rebooted and I started hitting next again I saw one of the exact same bases I did when I was in English. So can we please just stop with the language affects loot talk?
December 30th, 2014
kingdo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cossid

Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but I figured OP might be interested in this finding.

Let me preface this by stating I program server/client applications, and do understand the point you make, however, I have found evidence that the server DOES store your language preference, at least temporarily.

Before I explain how I found this, I will say, I don't think language has any effect on loot what-so-ever. As you point out, the attack list is for offline bases, and I doubt they are pooled separately by language.

So on to my findings. There are a number of threads lingering around that indicate changing languages appears to help users bypass the 6-hour online time limit. This is what I was testing. The short answer conclusion to that test: it doesn't reset your online timer. Those experiencing it were probably offline for brief periods and luckily not attacked.

However, while testing this, I was on my tablet connected with my language set to German. I hit the 6 hour limit and was disconnected (during that 6 hour period, I was switching from English/Norsk/French/German, and just happened to end on German). However, the entire time, my phone was left on English. After I was disconnected on my tablet, I launched on my phone, and the 'take a break' message came up in English. I obviously did not make it into the game. However, after I attempted to connect from my phone, the next 3 push notifications I received (troops ready for battle, spells ready for battle, enemy is attacking your village) on my phone now all arrived in German. After I successfully reconnected with a client in English, all future notifications returned to English. So it appears the server does store your client language from the last successful login.

I noticed the same thing from playing both on my iPhone and iPad. I get alerts only on my phone, wich is in English, and my iPad is on Norsk (for chat obviously). I receive alerts both on norsk and english on my phone, depending on which I played last. Weird, I thought I would only receive english alerts on my phone since it is set to English, but it's not what is happening.
December 30th, 2014
FrosterMedia

You would think using common sense would be enough to figure out a language setting has absolutely nothing to do with loot or available enemies.. If that would be the case why do I get attacked by Chinese people all the time, etc. So yeah, obviously it doesn't have anything to do with it.
December 30th, 2014
Duckbill77

Tested it myself, wrote down the names of the first 10 search, exit search, change language. First 10 search, sometimes you end up with 1 or 2 same name on the first 10 search without fail... as they maybe those that are top of the queue after being played 6 hours.

Don't need proof, just observation is enough.

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