As Dies Barch, So Dies Clash of Clans!

Barch not dead. Today One of my clan member destroyed max th9 completely with barch lvl 7 nd hero . Sc cant kill any type of troops, the players always find ways to use any type of troops against the right base.

u cant use barch all the time, u have to change ur army otherwise you will remove the game soon.

I say we all max the server capacity and make supercell feel the pain and even more lost revenue.

The loot has been on and off, I actually have been barching and when my spells are done i'll throw in a lavaloonion raid in between so it doesn't get too monotonous.

If maxing out your base is possible without BARCH, i'd say definately but the time frame wouldn't be as favorable. Haven't had any issues holding onto loot ever since I've gotta my infernos up and running so that wouldn't be the issue, I just wouldn't want my builders to sit idle for too long since I would be using giants or loons in my farming comp.

With regards to the new so called Anti Barch updates (4th mortar, higher fire rate of archer towers) I really haven't seen the need to change my BARCH strategy (add extra barbs or giants). If i was trophy pushing though i'm sure I would feel the pinch

I still barch.
20 attacks won per session by boosting 2 barracks.
2 sessions per day.
40 attacks won per day.
560 attacks won per season.
All utilized by barch or BAM.

AT update only affects level 13 archer towers which kills 2 archers in a second. This update does not nerf barch or BAM in any way unless you're using 240 archers on champ.

Ok, not trying to be rude, but I would like to make the case that you can be successful without barch. I haven't used it since I unlocked giants all the way back at th 3 or whenever, and I currently have maxed th 10 def, decent walls, and level 30+ heroes, all without buying gems, playing a crazy amount, or being particularly good. I will admit that my real life schedule does lend itself well to attacking a couple times an hour rather than playing for an hour or two straight, which doesn't work for everyone, but barch is by no means integral towards progressing in the game.

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Originally Posted by d11

Learn how to play with other troops.

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I don't think you understand what he's trying to say. He can play with other troops. The problem is, different troops have longer training times, which will end up to less time playing the game, and less income in your storages.

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Originally Posted by hauw

I still barch.
20 attacks won per session by boosting 2 barracks.
2 sessions per day.
40 attacks won per day.
560 attacks won per season.
All utilized by barch or BAM.

AT update only affects level 13 archer towers which kills 2 archers in a second. This update does not nerf barch or BAM in any way unless you're using 240 archers on champ.

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Barch is nerfed. Outside buildings have recieved an insane buff in health while the defenses can pick off barch troops.

Didn't army camps lose a lot of HP?

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Originally Posted by Hamoodi99

Barch not dead. Today One of my clan member destroyed max th9 completely with barch lvl 7 nd hero . Sc cant kill any type of troops, the players always find ways to use any type of troops against the right base.

u cant use barch all the time, u have to change ur army otherwise you will remove the game soon.

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Id like to see that.

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Originally Posted by BooomBaby

Didn't army camps lose a lot of HP?

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They did, it's easy to overlook but I don't think it mitigates the complaints very much because many people already had them out of the range of most defenses, so barchers were able to take them out without losing too many troops.

lol barch isnt dead. I can get 60-80% on a mid-max TH8 with level 5 barch attacks. Its the best loot combo for sleeper bases.

This is factually correct.

only barch is cheap enough to net addd to the economy. It preys on collector bases hence bringing resources back into play.

Anytime you attack storages you are net lowering the economy.

As barch goes so goes the game, the economy is shockingly bad today.

Barching isn't dead chill.. Just is harder. (don't attack us TH 10's Then. Lol

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they clearly want barch dead.

as the op hinted, when barch dies, so dies the game. its the one, single, solitary raiding style that nets gains to the economy.

I don't know why anybody at th9 or up would bother raiding anymore, theres nothing.

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Originally Posted by Sobberr

Barch is nerfed. Outside buildings have recieved an insane buff in health while the defenses can pick off barch troops.

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I have yet to find a nerf that SC has implemented that has caused me a problem....every one that everyone has complained about I still can use effectively.

Nerf Drags....if im using that combo...I will find you.

Nerf hogs....if im using that combo...I will find you.

Nerf pekkas....I will find you!!!

Nerf Barch.....i will find you!!!

The game isn't about the troops....it is about the knowledge of the base your attacking based on your troop comp.

Pick your army....then pick your battle.

Nerfs???? Cmon....SC can try.....but nerfs are for people who throw their hands in the air and don't even try!!!

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Originally Posted by cottoninthewoods

Should have titled your thread:

AS BARCH DOES, THE ECONOMY IMPROVES!

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This times 100👆 people fap to barch 24/7 learn how to attack and stop barching already

OMG... really? barch is fine.

Ya, it did get a little harder, but it's still perfectly doable. Last update with the level 13 ATs hurt more.

but honestly, adding stronger towers and more HP to buildings makes it harder for all attacks, not just barch lol. And those are not siginficant enough to break a strategy. The weak army camps actually made a lot of bases easier to Barch.

Instead of crying after every update, just make the needed adjustments, tighten up your gameplay and enjoy the new additions, I was bored out of mind before this update.

I only barch btw, and I'm on a good pace to max out TH10 with just 5-10 raids per day. Barch won't be dead unless they change lvl7 barch to lvl5 stats or something ridiculous like that lol.

I just barched a bunched of maxed or close to maxed bases here in Master 2 yesterday right after the update.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgq3...jjP4ZpL_E2YObA

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Originally Posted by Jimjamz33

This times 100👆 people fap to barch 24/7 learn how to attack and stop barching already

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People who barch know how to attack, that's why we do it...and we do it well with minimal resources.

People who don't know how to attack use big troops.

Be efficient....barch is far from dead. Those who do...know their bases and we thrive.

Cry about resources...until you learn to maximize it!!

Have close to max loot stolen and 11.5+ mil de stolen and I don't barch, everyone plays different well at least some do 👍

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Originally Posted by wretchedhorror

hmmm- As a barcher when im not doing war raids

1)Still haven't noticed the effects of the 4th mortar edition- wake me up when it does
2)Still haven't noticed the effects of the faster shooting archer tower- wake me up when it does
3)All other "forum exclusive" issues you guys deal with- when they happen wake me up- haven't noticed.
4)Still- there is nothing sc can do that can stop me from barching successfully.

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You are not gonna notice much while sleeping

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Originally Posted by TheWompyOverlord

Recently I've noticed a trend of anti-barch additions to the game through updates (ex. The fourth mortar or increased archer tower fire rate). Now, as a barcher of course I'm going to be upset at this but that isn't really the purpose of this thread. In my opinion the downfall of barching will mark the beginning of the downfall of clash.

Now, the assumed intentions of these anti-barch additions are to cut down on barching in high to mid champions league. This forces players to use stronger armies which require, in theory, a bit more planning and strategy (as well as a bit more boosting $). Knocking barch in the highest levels of the game will also trickle down to farming ranges, namely c3-m2, where many players use barch as well to farm. If barch becomes too difficult or unusable in farming ranges then players will be forced to use giant/wiz or balloonion based army compositions which take longer and are more costly to train.

This normally would not be an issue except for the fact that the raids currently available will not profit enough to truly do any real work on the more expensive th9 and th10 upgrades. With barch i can raid every 20 min and take 70k from a player who hasent logged in for a few hours collectors. Adding on the bonus this brings home 170k gold and elixir which is decent enough. Multiply that by 20+ times a day and that's a steady income. Once you start raiding with the longer training and more costly armies, however, there comes some issues. 170k for a 30-60 minute army just isnt enough to make much more than 1 million of each resource a day. Considering the lack of big loot raids around, 170k would most likely be the norm for somebody who doesn't want to search 100+ times. Even raiding bases with 400k in their storages would require spells and maybe heroes depending on base strength which costs more and takes up more time (with no guarentee you'll loot all 400k). Bottom line, the stronger farming armies aren't as sustainable as barch.

For players who are trying to max out their base, this can be extremely frustrating as the upgrade cost on structures, heroes, and walls can get to be insane at the income amounts mentioned above. Maxing a base barching inactives takes long enough, but subjected to the tedious farming methods such as giant/wiz, drag, or balloonion armies would take even longer. A prospect which I dont find myself up to doing.

So, we must ask ourselves this question, is it worth it to try to max out a base without barch? Is the game truly "beatable" for players who don't want to spend a fortune, without barch? To me, the answer is no. As dies barch, so dies Clash of Clans!

NOTE: I am not saying that barch is dead, far from it actually. This isn't an argument as to whether it is still useable or not but instead as to whether a base is maxable for farmers without it!

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something im learning about supercell, no matter how bad they nerf something they are smart enough to make a way of adaption.

i hated some of their nerfs and rightfully so but... They has made a way to adapt we just have to find it.

Nice thread OP

It seems to have been lost on a few people, a few things for some people to consider :-

• Lots of barchers can use all the different armies very well.
• if the inactive farming stopped, there would be a huge decrease in fresh loot.
• loonian is just as simple and easy to use as barch.
• OP never said barch is dead, merely implied that if it died the game would too.
• barching allows a couple of hours straight clashing instead of drip style attacking (good for casuals).

To the OP, if barching stopped then GAB would begin but if they stopped GAB then maybe the player base would decline rapidly.

This game already slow die :D slow slow slow....

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Originally Posted by d11

Enough already. BARCH is not dead, except for attacking high lvl TH10's for 50%. And that is a good thing. Get back and play the game now.

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Exactly !
Barching was one of the option to raise 4000 Troph's.
Happy to see the end of this pratice !!

You're overreacting

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Originally Posted by willsolvit

You're overreacting

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Many things are dramatised in order to spark interest and debate, but yeah barch is nowhere near over :).

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Originally Posted by TheRealMarcus

Barching isn't dead chill.. Just is harder. (don't attack us TH 10's Then. Lol

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Originally Posted by bobofclashofclans

lol barch isnt dead. I can get 60-80% on a mid-max TH8 with level 5 barch attacks. Its the best loot combo for sleeper bases.

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I never said it was dead, did you read the end of the thread?