Things that we (I) didn't ask for

SC seem to never pick on popular suggestions, instead they give us things most of us don't actually ask for.

-Elixir Wall - Ruined elixir economy.
-Healer AI - Asked for but instead broken (Healing full health troops and solo troops AGAIN)
-RoF Arrow Towers - Bad economy and SC literally nerfed Barch
-Permanent Skeleton Traps - Disappointed those who wanted to play "Hide & Seek", mainly useless but capable to ruining attacks by distracting troops.

-Lvl 12 collectors - Wow, come on.... Most people have low lvl collectors or don't prioritize them. But the small majority does max their collectors and they often get raided, losing all their resources because nobody bothers with the tiny collector loot.

The best SC could had done was actually buff the collectors to benefit all the players, which will have a extremely noticeable impact on the economy.

-Inferno Tower Duration - Is this meant for TH10 v TH10 or to make TH9s rage quit?
-[Winter] Elixir Wall limited to TH9+ - People say they got exilir to burn up there, but those end-game armies cost A LOT... who got time for that?



Maybe I'm just overreacting, but I truly feel like the economy has grown worst with this update.

Edit - Why am I being framed by a mod for being selfish? I didn't write (I) in the title and mods can edit without showing the text.

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Originally Posted by Bresn

SC seem to never pick on popular suggestions, instead they give us things most of us don't actually ask for.

-Elixir Wall - Ruined elixir economy.
-Healer AI - Asked for but instead broken (Healing full health troops and solo troops AGAIN)
-RoF Arrow Towers - Bad economy and SC literally nerfed Barch
-Permanent Skeleton Traps - Disappointed those who wanted to play "Hide & Seek", mainly useless but capable to ruining attacks by distracting troops.

-Lvl 12 collectors - Wow, come on.... Most people have low lvl collectors or don't prioritize them. But the small majority does max their collectors and they often get raided, losing all their resources because nobody bothers with the tiny collector loot.

The best SC could had done was actually buff the collectors to benefit all the players, which will have a extremely noticeable impact on the economy.

-Inferno Tower Duration - Is this meant for TH10 v TH10 or to make TH9s rage quit?
-[Winter] Elixir Wall limited to TH9+ - People say they got exilir to burn up there, but those end-game armies cost A LOT... who got time for that?



Maybe I'm just overreacting, but I truly feel like the economy has grown worst with this update.

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when you say that they are introducing things that people didn't want..... do you mean they are introducing stuff that you don't want or see as important?

I'm not entirely sure how you can say the economy has "grown worst" with this update when its been out less than 24h

Like polls and posts indicate those things SC introduced aren't mentioned as much as popular choices.

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Originally Posted by Bresn

Like polls and posts indicate those things SC introduced aren't mentioned as much as popular choices.

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popular doesn't make things right. A popular poll may indicate that all TH9s and below want Infernos nerfed to the point that they give archers a slight tan. Doesn't mean it's ever going to happen.

when you say as much ... they were mentioned right?

you some how managed to take great things, and twist to make it sound bad. How are lvl 12 collectors bad? You must be kidding right... So sad

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Originally Posted by vinnyXo

you some how managed to take great things, and twist to make it sound bad. How are lvl 12 collectors bad? You must be kidding right... So sad

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I'm sitting with a TH7 base staring at *Maxed* TH8s and TH9s with max collectors as well as TH8s and TH7s with lvl5 collectors....


I didn't put that (I).... wut

They added (I) to your post....OMG that cracked me up........ Nothing like being subtle huh?


But but back to the OP,

some of those things , like upgrading collectors will take time to trickle down through the economy so maybe it's too early to know the full impact.

other things, like changing elixir for walls to lvl 9 were way over due.... I think they didn't realize how out of balance things would become so they are just trying to right the economic ship.

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Originally Posted by Bresn

I'm sitting with a TH7 base staring at *Maxed* TH8s and TH9s with max collectors as well as TH8s and TH7s with lvl5 collectors....


I didn't put that (I).... wut

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It's magic!

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/...psu6ybdvhu.jpg

I apologise but the OCD got the better of this little kitten. I literally could flood this whole thread with posts of people asking for level 12 collectors or being able to use elixir for walls for example. People have been asking for those things since I can't remember when.

As for skellie traps they make a nice addition to the game. Not extremely powerful but I have seen them make a star difference on attacks and defenses which can be very useful in wars and trophy pushing. As for a TH9 draining fully loaded infernos on a single attack that's asking a lot from that TH9 besides damage is still the same.

Anyway getting back to point in my opinion it is way way too early to draw any economy conclusions yet. Many TH8s - TH10s just started upgrading their collectors so for now they will be producing less loot but eventually in the long run more loot will be pumped into the economy as a whole. Same applies to many TH7s and TH8s who get to build their new DE drills. It will take them a while to upgrade them to their max levels yet so again too early to draw conclusion or in any case it is too early to notice the benefits yet. It will take a couple of weeks before lots of players will have them all collecting at capacity yet.

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Originally Posted by Bresn

Why am I being framed by a mod for being selfish? I didn't write (I) in the title and mods can edit without showing the text.

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Because you are the one that is complaining about everything. ♥♥♥♥ and move on. They will not remove it.

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Originally Posted by Bresn

I didn't put that (I).... wut

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Originally Posted by THNSUM

They added (I) to your post....OMG that cracked me up........ Nothing like being subtle huh?

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Gotta love the mods....

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Originally Posted by Bresn

I'm sitting with a TH7 base staring at *Maxed* TH8s and TH9s with max collectors as well as TH8s and TH7s with lvl5 collectors....

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Then join in the campaign to have an achievement for maxing out the collectors and mines!

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Originally Posted by THNSUM

They added (I) to your post....OMG that cracked me up........ Nothing like being subtle huh?


But but back to the OP,

some of those things , like upgrading collectors will take time to trickle down through the economy so maybe it's too early to know the full impact.

other things, like changing elixir for walls to lvl 9 were way over due.... I think they didn't realize how out of balance things would become so they are just trying to right the economic ship.

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I'm extremely offended and upset by that (I) because I look absolutely stupid, this is so childish by whichever mod did it....

Lvl12 will help, yes.... But only in the higher levels.

As a TH7, I'm unable to loot those juicy maxed bases but bases I can actually hit has a ridiculously low amount of loot due to low collector levels as well as rare 200k bases... but I'm sitting in Gold and my loot disappears in one or two defenses....

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Originally Posted by Bresn

I'm extremely offended and upset by that (I) because I look absolutely stupid, this is so childish by whichever mod did it....

Lvl12 will help, yes.... But only in the higher levels.

As a TH7, I'm unable to loot those juicy maxed bases but bases I can actually hit has a ridiculously low amount of loot due to low collector levels as well as rare 200k bases... but I'm sitting in Gold and my loot disappears in one or two defenses....

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It wasn't the added (I) that made you look absolutely stupid. ....:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by victort

It wasn't the added (I) that made you look absolutely stupid. ....:rolleyes:

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Ok maybe I bashed a economy boost without too much explaining but that other things I mentioned were sort of right.... They destroyed the healer AI after we asked to stop it from healing single troops and it healed the ground instead.

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Originally Posted by Bresn

SC seem to never pick on popular suggestions, instead they give us things most of us don't actually ask for.

-Elixir Wall - Ruined elixir economy. Strongly Agree
-Healer AI - Asked for but instead broken (Healing full health troops and solo troops AGAIN) Meh. Not important.
-RoF Arrow Towers - Bad economy and SC literally nerfed Barch Strongly Disagree
-Permanent Skeleton Traps - Disappointed those who wanted to play "Hide & Seek", mainly useless but capable to ruining attacks by distracting troops. Strongly Disagree

-Lvl 12 collectors - Wow, come on.... Most people have low lvl collectors or don't prioritize them. But the small majority does max their collectors and they often get raided, losing all their resources because nobody bothers with the tiny collector loot. You're misunderstanding the purpose.

The best SC could had done was actually buff the collectors to benefit all the players, which will have a extremely noticeable impact on the economy. Strongly Disagree.

-Inferno Tower Duration - Is this meant for TH10 v TH10 or to make TH9s rage quit? Wut?
-[Winter] Elixir Wall limited to TH9+ - People say they got exilir to burn up there, but those end-game armies cost A LOT... who got time for that? Vehemently disagree!

Maybe I'm just overreacting, but I truly feel like the economy has grown worst with this update.

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You are. You are overreacting. You feel like the economy has grown (worse) with this update... NO ONE HAS those collectors yet. Only a handful of gemmers. And even if everyone did, it's going to take several DAYS to feel the impact of the collector change. The effect SHOULD mean that collector raids become more viable at TH9 and TH10. Anyone complaining about loot below TH9 can pound sand... it's EASY STREET at TH8 and below. There's money at every league level. No worse than ever before, and there's about to be significantly more elixir than there has been for months.

Elixir Walls DID have an impact on the economy. They wouldn't be getting rid of them < Lvl9 if that weren't a fact. This is going to be HUGE for TH9, where now there's a huge incentive, and not just a "show off" rationale for getting all of your legos done before TH10. It will now be easier to make elixir, and you'll be able to spend it on legos, for lack of anything else to do with it. At TH10, you can't afford a million elixir for a lego. For many months you'll be spending that elixir on troop upgrades.

No one cares about healer AI. If she flies to injured troops all the time, she's just going to trigger bombs and get shot down, etc.

NERF BARCH! Great! DO IT. TH7 and 8 shouldn't be attacking TH10. They don't want TH10 to be attacking TH7 and 8, so the opposite should be true. You should die in a flurry of arrows when your TH8 attacks a TH10.

Skeleton traps are bad for the game, because they distract troops? I think that a trap that has to be dealt with is a good thing. I think they're underpowered.

LVL 12 collectors are for TH10 folks. We have the hard time doing functional collector raids. So they ARE helping the economy... they're making it so that there's potentially more to steal in a raid. It's not about how much the upgraded collectors will make you. It's about how much you'll make off of everyone else's collectors. And EVERY TH10 has builders sitting there free... eventually we'll all have all the collectors maxed. This is unnecessary for TH9 and below, because there isn't a loot problem below TH10. There hasn't been a significant loot problem AT TH10, since they upped the bonuses for a win. Your raids should always at least break even.

A collector buff would be a temporary solution. The 1 gem boost, etc. Those are great. But we know they're fleeting. A week? A month? Whatever. Cool. I enjoy them, like you do, but they aren't a solution. LVL 12 will put more resources in the game.

Inferno Towers lasting longer is fine. Level 1, you can get raided twice and have them burn out. Level 2, they tend not to burn out. So effectively this just corrects the system a bit. They will still go empty if you blow off the game. There will still be TH10 ghost ships.

No one above TH9 has elixir to burn. Not until you're all zaps. TH9 has elixir to burn. TH9 had a legit gripe. That's solved... because TH9 can get LVL9 walls. Didn't finish your skulls before you went to TH9? Too bad. Most of us paid for our skulls with gold, not elixir. So you get to do it the old fashioned way. Paying for lvl9 with elixir, if you haven't finished all of your TH9 upgrades by the time you're done with your legos, you are a FAST farmer. CRAZY fast. And if you do finish them all, then hey, it's time to be upgrading anyway...

When SC does something that basically demands that you have to GEM in order to have any fun at all, I'll complain about their updates. The last couple have been actual attempts to fix actual problems. This one eliminates the most popular farming method for most people... but in actuality, it's a pretty bogus strategy anyway. Every other change can really ONLY be seen as positive for everyone, TH7+

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Originally Posted by Bresn

I'm extremely offended and upset by that (I) because I look absolutely stupid, this is so childish by whichever mod did it....

Lvl12 will help, yes.... But only in the higher levels.

As a TH7, I'm unable to loot those juicy maxed bases but bases I can actually hit has a ridiculously low amount of loot due to low collector levels as well as rare 200k bases... but I'm sitting in Gold and my loot disappears in one or two defenses....

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A mod left an explanation on this thread...

Level 12 collectors is available at TH8 and above. Bases which you will be farming soon enough and you'll be able to enjoy the collectors yourself soon enough. I wish I had them as it would have made my TH8, TH9 and TH10 time life a little easier. It will take a while but in time there will be inactive bases with level 12 collectors. Since they produce faster and have a higher storage within the collector everyone will be able to grab more loot from them but these things take time.


@ THNSUM,
Your sig is pretty accurate. I haz the invisible ink bug again!

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Originally Posted by Bresn

Ok maybe I bashed a economy boost without too much explaining but that other things I mentioned were sort of right.... They destroyed the healer AI after we asked to stop it from healing single troops and it healed the ground instead.

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I did t mention the healer because I don't use it so I can't judge it's changes. While I'm sure it has some uses, I would rather carry an extra heal spell and use those 14 seats for something else.... I have a clan mate that uses them a lot though, I'll ask him what he thinks as well.

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Originally Posted by HanSolo90125

You are. You are overreacting. You feel like the economy has grown (worse) with this update... NO ONE HAS those collectors yet. Only a handful of gemmers. And even if everyone did, it's going to take several DAYS to feel the impact of the collector change. The effect SHOULD mean that collector raids become more viable at TH9 and TH10. Anyone complaining about loot below TH9 can pound sand... it's EASY STREET at TH8 and below. There's money at every league level. No worse than ever before, and there's about to be significantly more elixir than there has been for months.

Elixir Walls DID have an impact on the economy. They wouldn't be getting rid of them < Lvl9 if that weren't a fact. This is going to be HUGE for TH9, where now there's a huge incentive, and not just a "show off" rationale for getting all of your legos done before TH10. It will now be easier to make elixir, and you'll be able to spend it on legos, for lack of anything else to do with it. At TH10, you can't afford a million elixir for a lego. For many months you'll be spending that elixir on troop upgrades.

No one cares about healer AI. If she flies to injured troops all the time, she's just going to trigger bombs and get shot down, etc.

NERF BARCH! Great! DO IT. TH7 and 8 shouldn't be attacking TH10. They don't want TH10 to be attacking TH7 and 8, so the opposite should be true. You should die in a flurry of arrows when your TH8 attacks a TH10.

Skeleton traps are bad for the game, because they distract troops? I think that a trap that has to be dealt with is a good thing. I think they're underpowered.

LVL 12 collectors are for TH10 folks. We have the hard time doing functional collector raids. So they ARE helping the economy... they're making it so that there's potentially more to steal in a raid. It's not about how much the upgraded collectors will make you. It's about how much you'll make off of everyone else's collectors. And EVERY TH10 has builders sitting there free... eventually we'll all have all the collectors maxed. This is unnecessary for TH9 and below, because there isn't a loot problem below TH10. There hasn't been a significant loot problem AT TH10, since they upped the bonuses for a win. Your raids should always at least break even.

A collector buff would be a temporary solution. The 1 gem boost, etc. Those are great. But we know they're fleeting. A week? A month? Whatever. Cool. I enjoy them, like you do, but they aren't a solution. LVL 12 will put more resources in the game.

Inferno Towers lasting longer is fine. Level 1, you can get raided twice and have them burn out. Level 2, they tend not to burn out. So effectively this just corrects the system a bit. They will still go empty if you blow off the game. There will still be TH10 ghost ships.

No one above TH9 has elixir to burn. Not until you're all zaps. TH9 has elixir to burn. TH9 had a legit gripe. That's solved... because TH9 can get LVL9 walls. Didn't finish your skulls before you went to TH9? Too bad. Most of us paid for our skulls with gold, not elixir. So you get to do it the old fashioned way. Paying for lvl9 with elixir, if you haven't finished all of your TH9 upgrades by the time you're done with your legos, you are a FAST farmer. CRAZY fast. And if you do finish them all, then hey, it's time to be upgrading anyway...

When SC does something that basically demands that you have to GEM in order to have any fun at all, I'll complain about their updates. The last couple have been actual attempts to fix actual problems. This one eliminates the most popular farming method for most people... but in actuality, it's a pretty bogus strategy anyway. Every other change can really ONLY be seen as positive for everyone, TH7+

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^^^^^Try arguing with him OP. Youll make yourself look more dumb! Lol

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Originally Posted by Bresn

-Lvl 12 collectors - Wow, come on.... Most people have low lvl collectors or don't prioritize them. But the small majority does max their collectors and they often get raided, losing all their resources because nobody bothers with the tiny collector loot.

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I seriously don't know how you can get a small majority.......

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Originally Posted by Bresn

I didn't put that (I).... wut

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You might not have, but the tone of the post certainly begged for it. Lesson learned.

I cri evrytim a th7 complains about loot. Just don't. You guys have it so nice.

If you can't make loot as a th7 just quit now. Seriously.

You are overreacting if you go coc fb page and see comments on old posts there are thousands of reqs for multiple layouts and lvl 12 collectors :rolleyes: and that (i) sure made me laugh :)

I'm gonna start by saying that I loved reading HanSolo's reply to this thread. Excellently written.

I have a "problem" with some of these updates as they directly impact me.

Archer RoF hurts my looting strategy. I love BAM, it does great work for me. The new Archer towers (which after some raiding today, I found that it didn't really affect my raids too much), does still negatively impact me.

Using elixir for L9+ walls hurts me because I postponed my walls for too long. I've got a ton of L8 walls to do yet, but I know it's my own fault. I did all my TH9 elixir upgrades first so I could do all of my L8 walls with lix, but that's dead and gone due to the new update

I don't like the new giants because my base can finally easily handle L6 giants. Now I've got bigger, badder fish to fry in that department

On the surface, I wish these things hadn't happened, but I'm not so short-sighted to believe they hurt the game as a whole. I know these updates were for the best, and I know why they were implemented. I would not want SC to take back any of these updates (except the nerf to pups...I love my fiery dogs...), because I know they will all benefit me in the long run

That (I) is pretty accurate since some of us did as for those things.