I think the ATs are a little much.

This DOES make Barch harder, because it eliminates some of the room for error that some folks are counting on.
And it DOES seem to be making Loonion harder, in that bases where you could normally trade 1 loon for 1 AT require more precise loon drop spots... an extra square or two could mean the difference of an extra arrow. .5 olde timey AT damage more can make that trade harder.

But this is good. Your TH8 Barch army shouldn't have an easy time putting you in masters, or taking out TH10s etc. You SHOULD, by design, have to prey on your equals or those worse than you. If you want balance in the game, that's where we should head. If you don't want balance in the game, I guess your opinion probably doesn't count for much.

What's with the barching hate?

It's efficient, don't get upset at someone just because they don't like to waste time and resources :p

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Originally Posted by youwire

for single archer tower, it is true.

but when you combine AT with other defenses (MORTAR, WIZ TOWER, another AT,....), that statement will not hold.

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That statement applies to every troop in the game. Of course if your BK is being targeted by multiple defenses it's going on get knocked out faster. The true test is how 1 Archer tower goes up against 10 archers. The new AT will beat the 10 archers faster than the old tower while the new AT will beat giants at exactly the same rate.

My point is if you take into account other defenses in the game it's better to have to the old Archer Towers when facing High Hit point becuase they have the same DPS but take larger chunks of health while the other defenses finishes them off. This is a nerf to mass archers becuase the new towers switch targets faster like xbows.

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Originally Posted by 3lorian

What's with the barching hate?

It's efficient, don't get upset at someone just because they don't like to waste time and resources :p

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It's not hate. But it's a math flaw to the game if a TH7 can take down TH10s with 25K worth of troops. Yes, I know how to defend against it. But making it harder to barch will make it more reasonable to have bases that defend well against GoWiWi or Loonion, etc. It's always a compromise. I am down for anything that invalidates what is a sort of bogus attack--and I DO Barch. I take advantage of it just like anyone else. But IMO you SHOULD have to spend resources if you're attacking in Crystal and Masters, against bases that are way out of your league.

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Originally Posted by HanSolo90125

But this is good. Your TH8 Barch army shouldn't have an easy time putting you in masters, or taking out TH10s etc. You SHOULD, by design, have to prey on your equals or those worse than you. If you want balance in the game, that's where we should head. If you don't want balance in the game, I guess your opinion probably doesn't count for much.

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That's so right. It isn't flat out ruining barcher attacks, it just mean you won't be able to barch collectors on bases much stronger than yours and get away with it (your troops will get 1 shot killed twice as fast). I don't think it will have much of an affect if you are attacking your own th or lower, your troops won't get 1 shot killed by those towers. That seems fair.

P.S. I barch constantly, i'll need to change up my own play like everyone else too

I don't see a problem with a th7 barching a th10 in masters for 1 star and 4 trophies.

If it's a th7 and you're a th10 then build a giant healer army and revenge smash him for trophies. It's an easy 3 star target :p

All Clash - "Clash of Clans Christmas Update Sneak Peek 3 – Faster Archer Towers" - Matt's Math Comment

So, I did an in-depth analysis on the Current AT vs New AT vs X-Bow on time to kill. With the assumption that all shots hit their mark (which is a big assumption, but roll with it), the new Archer Tower will out-perform the X-Bow in all instance analyzed sans one (Barbarians level 6). I looked at all AT and X-Bow levels against Level 5,6,7 Archers and Barbarians. I also assumed that the first shot was instantaneous (time 0). Assuming you have Maxxed both AT’s and X-Bows, the following times to kill 5 troops of the same kind are as follows:
Archers 5:
AT old – 4 seconds
AT new – 2 seconds
X-Bow – 2.432 seconds
Archers 6:
AT old – 4 seconds
AT new – 2 seconds
X-Bow – 3.072 seconds
Archers 7:
AT old – 4 seconds
AT new – 2 seconds
X-Bow – 3.072 seconds
Barbarians 5:
AT old – 4 seconds
AT new – 4.5 seconds
X-Bow – 6.272 seconds
Barbarians 6:
AT old – 9 seconds
AT new – 7 seconds
X-Bow – 6.912 seconds
Barbarians 7:
AT old – 9 seconds
AT new – 7 seconds
X-Bow – 8.192 seconds
With this taken into account, the only benefits of the X-Bow are the larger range (marginally larger if Ground & Air, much larger Ground Only, but useless against air troops), and a higher probability of hitting a live target (faster shooting and faster projectile speed).

As a th10 with maxed troops I can tell you the difference is enormous. Realize that your troops are often at half health from mortars. These archer towers are killing any damaged lower hp then giants valks golem dragon type troops twice as fast as before. Very few shots are wasted as well.

Using smaller troops took spells and heroes to barely get 50 percent against strong bases before. Note... for 1 star... So you had to attack many more times at higher risk of losing trophies then a gowiwi which is much more versatile and very easy to multiple star strong bases.

I do not like the archer tower change at all... if they are to shoot faster, their dps should not be the same. Max archer towers are insane now.

Max archer towers are INSANE now... They kill troops as fast or faster then xbow....

Bad, poorly thought out change.

Oh my God.... THE ARCHER TOWERS ARE THE SAME!!! The DPS is the exact same as prior to the update! the only reason they did this is because archer towers were getting very sloppy- many of you probably noticed that the archer tower would shoot once, then, while that arrow is in the air/hit its target, shoot a second WASTED shot that just hit the dead body of some barb or archer.

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Oh my God.... THE ARCHER TOWERS ARE THE SAME!!! The DPS is the exact same as prior to the update! the only reason they did this is because archer towers were getting very sloppy- many of you probably noticed that the archer tower would shoot once, then, while that arrow is in the air/hit its target, shoot a second WASTED shot that just hit the dead body of some barb or archer.

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What part of Archer Towers are killing troops faster then XBOWS are you not understanding? You are being purposefully obtuse to think that magically all troops have full health whenever the archer tower decides to target it. Fact is, most troops get damaged left and right. The archer tower kills any damaged non tank troops incredibly fast! Faster then XBOWS... Think about that... You think archer towers should be more efficient or even near efficient killing troops then xbows? Come on...

Please, attack my maxed base... Bring it on, because anything with less then hundreds of hp will be anhialated far faster now then pre update.