Winter-Update-Post-your-FEEDBACK-here

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Originally Posted by bradleytjohnson1

OMG people will literally complain about everything.

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♥♥♥♥! Yea I know right? Th8s r complaining and others r hating the snow. Get over it and enjoy the update haha. Man I love the fact I can pick on these lower townhalls again:cool:

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Originally Posted by will9875

i replied to someone else on a similar rebuttal. I do understand that building armies uses elixir, and attacking does cost gold(a very miniscule amount)
All im saying is on a normal basis i have more elixir laying around than gold, and given that it cost 2.2Billion to fully upgrade all walls, it would be nice to allow elixir a little sooner. Just my opinion, and would be interested in your thoughts in support of the change to only allowing for lvl 9+.

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Just so you're aware, the *total* cost for full skull walls at TH8 (starting from scratch) is 184,770,000 gold.

The total resource cost in walls for TH9 (lego + lava) is 1,020,530,000.

Do you notice the extra 3 zeros there?

For reference - TH9 has 250 walls. By the time they get 185 legos (which is only 74% of the way through their FIRST level of wall upgrades to do), they will have done more than a TH8 who has maxed out ALL THEIR WALLS FROM SCRATCH.

So again, just think about this for a second, and then take pity on the TH9s who are raiding you for resources. You will no longer care about your elixer, and it will just help us in TH9 get some semblance of resource flow.

Go ahead and zap me back! I really don't mind.

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Originally Posted by Goobers

Well first there's that ^ ^

But you wanted my own thoughts in support of the change for only allowing for lvl 9+.
Well I don't have any, b/c I don't support the change. I don't like it at all.

My problem with it is not that they took away two THs from being able to do it, or that it should be limited further to lvl 10 or 11. I don't like it b/c it was a lazy band-aid fix when a workable solution is staring them right in the face. A workable solution that allows TH7/8s to continue to use elixir for walls, but doesn't cripple the economy for TH9/10s.

If you want to read my feedback on the elixir for walls update (the first, the recent one, just the update in general), here is the post:

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post3418120

If you look at the post and go "Shut up you fat, long-winded moron! I don't have time to read all that!" that is fair, so I'll merely post the solution under this. Questions regarding elaborating on the solution, and I'll refer you back to the linked post, lol. I would definitely welcome feedback/criticism on it though, if there is something wrong with it that you are seeing that I'm not.

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Re-introduce elixir for walls for lvl 7+, but place a restriction on it. In order to use elixir for wall upgrades, you must maintain the minimum elixir levels in storages which provides the storage loot cap for raiders at their TH lvl, PLUS the amount for which the wall upgrade costs.

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I appriciate the well thought out reply. and have read your linked post, I dont know that I agree or disagree with your proposed solution, but i do appreciate the description of the problem. I do see how this will keep more lootable elixir, however, i think that problem is compounded by the update to the archer towers(i know this is combining mutiple topics). cutting their firing speed in half basically doubles their efficiency, making upper level 9/10+ archer towers more difficult to raid against.

so in my opinion their may be more loot to raid, but its not as easy/ more difficult to get.

hopefully people stop complaining, the loot is about to get WAY better.
Also, collector raids are gonna be sooo awesome.

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Originally Posted by will9875

I appriciate the well thought out reply. and have read your linked post, I dont know that I agree or disagree with your proposed solution, but i do appreciate the description of the problem. I do see how this will keep more lootable elixir, however, i think that problem is compounded by the update to the archer towers(i know this is combining mutiple topics). cutting their firing speed in half basically doubles their efficiency, making upper level 9/10+ archer towers more difficult to raid against.

so in my opinion their may be more loot to raid, but its not as easy/ more difficult to get.

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This game is not meant to be a walk in the park bud. What they did was outstanding and well thought out. This is why they are a billion dollar company. With that being said, the elixir fix and economy balancing along with new archer tower mechanics has made this game unbelievable again. I have already done 150 attacks this week because I knew this update would get me playing again. I am officially addicted to COC again. Thank you supercell for such a wonderful and well thought out update. Can't wait for my tree;)

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Originally Posted by fubba101

I am town hall 9 and I feel like me and all my fellow town hall 9 people got the shaft with this update. Nothing. NOTHING WAS ADDED FOR TH9. Now there is little to no benefit of being th9 seeing that you can now already have 2 dark elixir drills at th8.

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Originally Posted by Ramb02

That is VERY not true. TH9s probably make the majority of their best loot raids on TH8 camps. Now that TH8 gets more DE available, you will see over time a boost in raidable DE from TH8 camps as a TH9 player.

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Originally Posted by GeneSplice

Th9 got the best out of it. Now that th7 and th8 cant dump tiny amounts of elixir into walls before logging off, th9s will have tons of loot to raid.

Also now that th7 and th8 produce more dark elixir, th9s will have a ton more dark to raid, and believe me, th9 needs literally millions and millions of dark to max their troops and heroes.

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Originally Posted by fubba101

But with town hall 7 & 8 & 10 receiving new items, th9 SHOULDVE gotten at least SOMETHING.

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Um, the ability to farm efficiently again?

I feel that you are not grasping the gravity of that benefit.

Be lucky you're not a TH10. They received lvl 7 giants but what's the point if TH9s can still continue to dump both resources into walls.

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Originally Posted by fubba101

But with town hall 7 & 8 & 10 receiving new items, th9 SHOULDVE gotten at least SOMETHING.

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You get better loot! And believe me, when you get to TH10, you'll wish you could still hit those rich TH8's for a decent profit, so go and hit some TH8's for some better elixir and DE (better elixir with no ability to use elixir for walls now down there).

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Originally Posted by Goobers

Um, the ability to farm efficiently again?

I feel that you are not grasping the gravity of that benefit.

Be lucky you're not a TH10. They received lvl 7 giants but what's the point if TH9s can still continue to dump both resources into walls.

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Farm more efficiently? No way barching is almost impossible now the archer towers mow down troops.

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Originally Posted by fubba101

But with town hall 7 & 8 & 10 receiving new items, th9 SHOULDVE gotten at least SOMETHING.

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Th9s got the best gift of all. Tons of loot to raid.

And you got new stuff too, once you upgrade to th10 you will have stuff you could not have before the update.

Unless your intention was to max th9 and quit.

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Originally Posted by will9875

I appriciate the well thought out reply. and have read your linked post, I dont know that I agree or disagree with your proposed solution, but i do appreciate the description of the problem. I do see how this will keep more lootable elixir, however, i think that problem is compounded by the update to the archer towers(i know this is combining mutiple topics). cutting their firing speed in half basically doubles their efficiency, making upper level 9/10+ archer towers more difficult to raid against.

so in my opinion their may be more loot to raid, but its not as easy/ more difficult to get.

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Well the archer tower firing speed is another beast entirely, and players including me have broken it down to show that it affects everyone, not just those last few tower levels, but this change doesn't validate/negate that elixir for walls solution, so we can keep those separate.

You do see how it would allow elixir to retain its value for TH7s+ though, correct? And at all stages of each TH, too. Players would still be able to use it so that they didn't have the problem of overflowing storages with no outlet (the only issue that caused this update in the first place), but they just wouldn't be able to dump it all out of the economy using walls alone.

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Originally Posted by Cabyam

This game is not meant to be a walk in the park bud. What they did was outstanding and well thought out. This is why they are a billion dollar company. With that being said, the elixir fix and economy balancing along with new archer tower mechanics has made this game unbelievable again. I have already done 150 attacks this week because I knew this update would get me playing again. I am officially addicted to COC again. Thank you supercell for such a wonderful and well thought out update. Can't wait for my tree;)

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Guy is using raids he did prior to this new update to try and validate that the changes fixed everything. Ignore this person.