"Walls"

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Originally Posted by dahimi

To call it rort or scam implies that people are being duped out of their money or that they aren't getting what they are paying for. That's ♥♥♥♥ and seriously insults the intelligence of the buyer or if you will implies some serious duplicity on the part of the developers. Neither the players nor the developers deserve that.

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Im glad to see you at least get the point of the comment.

As for all your stuff on buying based on production costs, you took one aspect of my argument and not the whole. Production costs are part of what makes costing, but so does the market itself. A movie in part may have high production costs because actors are paid such huge salaries. This is a result of the industry and fame itself. What you say about conditioning is true, but that conditioning keeps things stable and reigns in inflation. This is why when something is priced way outside the market is in, people cry foul over it (not necessarily because they can't afford it).

You obviously have the right to spend your money where you want. But I reserve the right to call you stupid for it, as well as calling supercell greedy. If angry birds can be such a profit maker by charging $2 per customer, then supercell (a self proclaimed small company-although this is questionable) would be raking in the cash. This is their right to do so in a capitalist society, but it doesn't mean that charging $40 for pixelated men to throw ropes round your pixelated buildings and hammer away monotonously to indicate a building process is happening is not a rort. It most certainly is, and you are stupid for supporting it.

Luther, you are more than welcome to complain about the prices, the fact is that people are willing to spend the money, or they would lower the price, its that simple. I don't agree with the pricing either, and so will not be buying any gems. That is the risk that SuperCell takes when they set their pricing. If noone bought at the prices they would have to change them since they wouldn't be making the money they wanted. The inverse if it was so cheap that everyone dumped in cash then they would have an issue where everyone would be complaining about it being too easy except those that are unable to afford it and they would lose a player base and then get those people that are paying for a load of gems complaining that there are no people to attack and no resources since everyone just buys buildings with gems.

Basically its a delicate balance, and while you don't agree with it, you aren't forced to participate any more than I am. Its not a scam, its not stupid and its not greedy. It is what it is. You don't complain about $60 games when after development is done they have almost no cost since many of them use torrents to distribute them, then they turn around and give you 0 day DLC, or do you? I personally think thats ♥♥♥♥ and refuse to buy those games, and often from those companies, while its not exactly a scam, I don't agree with it. I vote with my wallet, you should too. While it won't change anything it may make you feel better about it. Its their business practice and there is nothing you can do to change it since they believe it is working for them.

I agree. I am fairly new to the Clash of clans game and before the update i could still upgrade walls using the hard earned coins that i plundered from other players.. Then came the update and now my walls are on level 4 and i only have two builders. It is going to take forever to upgrade my walls. To make things worse i constantly get attacked while waiting for the other buildings to be complete with their upgrade resulting in a loss of coins and trophies. Really really stupid move from Supercell.

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Originally Posted by tcdezeeuw

I agree. I am fairly new to the Clash of clans game and before the update i could still upgrade walls using the hard earned coins that i plundered from other players.. Then came the update and now my walls are on level 4 and i only have two builders. It is going to take forever to upgrade my walls. To make things worse i constantly get attacked while waiting for the other buildings to be complete with their upgrade resulting in a loss of coins and trophies. Really really stupid move from Supercell.

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If you only have two builders and are used to that, getting a third is pretty easy with achievements.

I understand that Supercell is also gearing towards making money, but to me this sounds like the early signs of a game that could be ruined by greed. Runescape is an excellent example of this. I quit after some big changes that left the purpose of me playing the game null and pointless. That being said, I love Clash of Clans and have no plans on quitting, but please keep in mind, Supercell, to be careful with any major changes in the future.

I find it really annoying how I have 3001000 gold and cannot use them because all my builders are occupied and there's no point to play (attacking people) the game anymore but to wait for the builder to finish building. One suggestion, when you maxed out the 3001000 gold capacity, let the extra gold to be allowed to accumulate as you obtain them so there's some meaning to play the game rather than just wait and watch people not able to defeat you and steal your gold...

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Originally Posted by friendship9611

I find it really annoying how I have 3001000 gold and cannot use them because all my builders are occupied and there's no point to play (attacking people) the game anymore but to wait for the builder to finish building. One suggestion, when you maxed out the 3001000 gold capacity, let the extra gold to be allowed to accumulate as you obtain them so there's some meaning to play the game rather than just wait and watch people not able to defeat you and steal your gold...

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Schedule your builders so that you frequently have them coming available. Don't schedule them all for 3 day upgrades at once.

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Originally Posted by Ih8yourRegistration

Using builders for walls was a stupid move. I don't need a builder for stupid decorations - completely pointless btw. I don't need a builder for bombs or spring traps. When you get to a certain point you make money faster than you can spend it, I used to be able to take advantage of those hard earned gains and put it back into my base - as was every other player able to capitalize on their hard work. Now you've added the requirement for a builder to make the wall upgrades.

Ive already spent some money. I had entertained the idea of spending more money. We the players have already established the fact that a lot of your decisions are made based on this is a business venture for you with the intent of making money. But this added need for a builder for walls is simply a gross overstatement in time added to progress and how we would have to spend money to get gems to be able to speed things up.

You've proven that this is an over the air update by implementing it of the air. Remove this and you may be able to quell the many rumblings of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ off players for at least one of the many many issues that have come up from your recent updates. This is a no brainer.

you have a great game on your hands but you're managing it like some real money hungry punks right now.

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All I can say is: I 100% agree that something that takes ZERO time to upgrade, should not require a builder. Now if it took time to upgrade walls well... ya knock on f*****g wood.

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Originally Posted by GoldenBombSquadz

All I can say is: I 100% agree that something that takes ZERO time to upgrade, should not require a builder. Now if it took time to upgrade walls well... ya knock on f*****g wood.

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Really :mad:
10 Chars.

Of course this is a money grab, BUT if the walls were not needed to upgrade using a builder it's just like saying here is a crucial defensive upgrade lets say you don't need a builder for it. It adds another element of tactics to clash of clans which people claim is to simple. So I agree with you on some levels but not completely but thank you far raising an interesting concept for discussion