"Walls"

Using builders for walls was a stupid move. I don't need a builder for stupid decorations - completely pointless btw. I don't need a builder for bombs or spring traps. When you get to a certain point you make money faster than you can spend it, I used to be able to take advantage of those hard earned gains and put it back into my base - as was every other player able to capitalize on their hard work. Now you've added the requirement for a builder to make the wall upgrades.

Ive already spent some money. I had entertained the idea of spending more money. We the players have already established the fact that a lot of your decisions are made based on this is a business venture for you with the intent of making money. But this added need for a builder for walls is simply a gross overstatement in time added to progress and how we would have to spend money to get gems to be able to speed things up.

You've proven that this is an over the air update by implementing it of the air. Remove this and you may be able to quell the many rumblings of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ off players for at least one of the many many issues that have come up from your recent updates. This is a no brainer.

you have a great game on your hands but you're managing it like some real money hungry punks right now.

You can buy flags... I've bought over ten flags since the update which says there is more loot to be had. If you build walls, there is no loot for us to steal from you.

while i do agree with your overall premise about supercell being to greedy, the flags DO help with base defense, and i dont mind the wall update (although im obviously biased on this point)

I must agree on this one... i find this move also not the best one. Can only be one triggered to make more money out of the game.

Unfortunately is will have its effect on the player base who can't appreciate such moves.

For the rest all the updates in the last patch or spot on.

I hope Supercell doesn't start to act as many other companies (zynga... bigfish... gree...).

I can sincerely say clash of clans is a top game. It is similar to other many games in the market, but still it's a tiny bit different. The trophy concept (rolling the dice enough will show you how strong you are) is unique in my eyes.

Let's hope the builder for a wall limit gets reverted in the near future. It's really not adding any value to this game.
BUT it makes you change your tactics a bit if you want to take it into account. In short... you lose a builder if you want to be as flexible as before.

Regards,
P4TR1C14N

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Originally Posted by P4TR1C14N

I must agree on this one... i find this move also not the best one. Can only be one triggered to make more money out of the game.

Unfortunately is will have its effect on the player base who can't appreciate such moves.

For the rest all the updates in the last patch or spot on.

I hope Supercell doesn't start to act as many other companies (zynga... bigfish... gree...).

I can sincerely say clash of clans is a top game. It is similar to other many games in the market, but still it's a tiny bit different. The trophy concept (rolling the dice enough will show you how strong you are) is unique in my eyes.

Let's hope the builder for a wall limit gets reverted in the near future. It's really not adding any value to this game.
BUT it makes you change your tactics a bit if you want to take it into account. In short... you lose a builder if you want to be as flexible as before.

Regards,
P4TR1C14N

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No the purpose is to try and make sure there are more resources out there for people to grab. It's simple. You can't hide elixir in barracks anymore. You can't hide gold in fake upgrades anymore. You can't dump gold into walls right as you earn it anymore.

It's not some money grab conspiracy. Having more resources available to attackers (and there have been since the changes) makes for more fun and better game play.

As for the wall building, just stagger your builder upgrades. Time them so that a builder will be available when you want to play. Yes, sometimes that means pushing an upgrade back a bit. This is not that big of a deal.

Furthermore get your defenses to a point where it is hard for people to take your stuff.

Bump, anyone else displeased and willing to weigh in?

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Originally Posted by dahimi

No the purpose is to try and make sure there are more resources out there for people to grab. It's simple. You can't hide elixir in barracks anymore. You can't hide gold in fake upgrades anymore. You can't dump gold into walls right as you earn it anymore.

It's not some money grab conspiracy. Having more resources available to attackers (and there have been since the changes) makes for more fun and better game play.

As for the wall building, just stagger your builder upgrades. Time them so that a builder will be available when you want to play. Yes, sometimes that means pushing an upgrade back a bit. This is not that big of a deal.

Furthermore get your defenses to a point where it is hard for people to take your stuff.

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It IS a money grab because supercell had a far easier alternative to increase gold available in looting. When you attack, only a percentage of the gold of the defender is available to you. By simply increasing this percentage, supercell would have solved the problem. Instead, they implemented something which increases the chances of frustrated players buying and using gems. Also, players who had already bought extra builders were effectively screwed in that the money they spent on those builders went back to square one.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

No the purpose is to try and make sure there are more resources out there for people to grab. It's simple. You can't hide elixir in barracks anymore. You can't hide gold in fake upgrades anymore. You can't dump gold into walls right as you earn it anymore.

It's not some money grab conspiracy. Having more resources available to attackers (and there have been since the changes) makes for more fun and better game play.

As for the wall building, just stagger your builder upgrades. Time them so that a builder will be available when you want to play. Yes, sometimes that means pushing an upgrade back a bit. This is not that big of a deal.

Furthermore get your defenses to a point where it is hard for people to take your stuff.

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http://forum.supercell.net/images/icons/icon14.png

Changes like this can be an opportunity. If you buy another builder to have one free while others don't, that will give you an advantage.

Before, that extra builder could be used for free banking too. So, while they decreased the bonus for having an extra builder (no free banking), you still might want to consider having a spare builder.

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Originally Posted by Luther

It IS a money grab because supercell had a far easier alternative to increase gold available in looting. When you attack, only a percentage of the gold of the defender is available to you. By simply increasing this percentage, supercell would have solved the problem. Instead, they implemented something which increases the chances of frustrated players buying and using gems. Also, players who had already bought extra builders were effectively screwed in that the money they spent on those builders went back to square one.

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Increasing the percentage does nothing if the target has no resources to steal.