How Long until lvl 12 Collectors help Loot Situation?

It won't help the economy at all. Active players will always spend more than the output from their collectors.


The entire COC economy depends on the availability of the inactive bases, which are completely at SC's mercy.

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Originally Posted by youwire

It won't help the economy at all. Active players will always spend more than the output from their collectors.


The entire COC economy depends on the availability of the inactive bases, which are completely at SC's mercy.

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I don't follow. Supercell doesn't actively do anything to inactives. They don't change their availability in any specific way apart from the pushback that has always been in place.

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Originally Posted by IVWizdumb

I was wondering how long yall think it will take until lvl 12s actually start to help the economy?

Assuming the build time will take 5 days or so it will probably take active players near a month before all their collectors are 12. (Considering they will be working on other upgrades here and there as well). That means a month where a lot of players will have collectors down. Meaning the economy is actual gonna be negatively affected at first! :(


All in all this is not a complaint thread, i just wanted to get yalls perspectives! Im super glad SC is actually doing something to help the economy, Im just thinking its going to take a while before it collectors start to help things out.

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I think it will only have a minor impact on the game as many people don't even have lvl 11 mines.

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Originally Posted by HeliSmith

How many people even plan on buying the last collector or upgrading to level 12 when this will make wars harder? I personally am more concerned with how difficult war is then how much my collectors put out over a year period. I think elixir will improve dramatically due to the walls change.. Before you could use elixir for walls the game used to be a lot more social, donations were awesome. These days you get barbs or maybe archers but no one is raiding with pekkas or dragons ready to pop one on you like before. Hopefully some of the magic and fun comes back to the game now.... I think a couple of weeks until the elixir improves slightly, maybe a month we will see some improvement especially in th8 and below, who raids th7 and below.. Loot as in gold i don't see anyone's motivation to buy collectors that make war harder.. Most farmers are super low trophies... I guess it depends really where you are in the game

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explain how upgrading collector to level 12 will make wars harder...

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Originally Posted by HeliSmith

How many people even plan on buying the last collector or upgrading to level 12 when this will make wars harder? I personally am more concerned with how difficult war is then how much my collectors put out over a year period. I think elixir will improve dramatically due to the walls change.. Before you could use elixir for walls the game used to be a lot more social, donations were awesome. These days you get barbs or maybe archers but no one is raiding with pekkas or dragons ready to pop one on you like before. Hopefully some of the magic and fun comes back to the game now.... I think a couple of weeks until the elixir improves slightly, maybe a month we will see some improvement especially in th8 and below, who raids th7 and below.. Loot as in gold i don't see anyone's motivation to buy collectors that make war harder.. Most farmers are super low trophies... I guess it depends really where you are in the game

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What drugs are you on?


How does anything to do with lvl12 collectors make war harder for those that upgrade them?


(In fact I spose it may make you slightly harder to beat, as I imagine higher hp, so longer to take out - but think that is a minimal affect)

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Originally Posted by Baitalon

explain how upgrading collector to level 12 will make wars harder...

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Because
1. When you have 5 collectors in upgrade you generate very less resources in your village
2. You can t find loot either way by raiding :eek:
3. War Armies are expensive, and i don't have resources; see point 1.
4. I do barch atttacks in war to save Elix and to avoid being kicked for not using attacks
5. We lose war, and I eventually get kicked, which is very unfair

Got it ? :cool:

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Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

I don't follow. Supercell doesn't actively do anything to inactives. They don't change their availability in any specific way apart from the pushback that has always been in place.

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Add up the cost of all of your upgrades then compare that to the amount of resources your mines and colectors have produced in that same time frame.

Maxed mines and collectors can only keep max 2 builders going at higher ths but many people continue to keep 3-5 builders busy every day.

Now do the math: calculate how many inactives it takes to keep the 3rd-5th builder going compared to how much resources you actually get from inactive bases.

As a community we are not seeing enough inactives to keep everyone's builders busy.

It will not help the economy, because there are already enough ressources in the economy. The bad loot Comes from to many Players under a shield and that there are more attackers then defenders, so all good bases are taken and the bad are shown to everybody.

The loot improvements will be:
.) th9s and th10s that are not good enough at raiding to find loot and dont attack will have it easier and will still Progress in the game (depending on how much the increase is)
.) The elixir for walls is removed for th8s and early th9s, so the bad bases that you raid will shift back from "no elixir and elixir" to "no Gold and some elixir", which is good, because the worst Thing is if you cant pay your troops and the first ones that quit farming are the high th9 "barch my walls" Players that only look for Gold.
.) th10s have more loot, because with lvl10 giants they are able to farm most th9s

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Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

I don't follow. Supercell doesn't actively do anything to inactives. They don't change their availability in any specific way apart from the pushback that has always been in place.

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push back = tons of next fees = killing the value of inactive bases.

yeah, SC did nothing to inactives.:p

I think it will take months if we notice anything at all.

Inactives contribute greatly to propping up the economy. They won't be upgrading. Building up a substantial number of inactive bases with level 12 collectors will take a long long time.

Also keep in mind that when people do start upgrading these guys, there is going to be a serious loot drought. We don't know what the new rate will be, but most likely it will take nearly a month before the collector becomes profitable.

I can't wait to see the forums in the coming weeks. Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better...if they get better. The QQ is going to be legendary.

I wish SC would instead increase the rate of existing collector levels. That would produce immediate relief.