The hard math What Barching will be like with new archer update With damage chart

Troops now have become radioactive.... they have half-life decay :rolleyes:

The question is what happens at higher range for example if archers are Shooting the Mound around the base. Then the second arrow will be already in the air when the unit is killed by the first arrow.

Take a look at the goblin at 3:46. It takes 3 arrows. 2 to be killed and the 3rd is wasted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fvoxqaLEIA

The question to me is: Would the retargeting time (additional 0.5 seconds to Change Targets) start after the 2nd arrow or after the 3rd, if there were another goblin in range and why did supercell not simply reduce the retargeting time?

Yeah basically archer tower will have less wasted DPS and it will make all raids harder if with push/war troops.


Just Think of those times you got that 50% with that last troop well you still can have that happen but now it's going to be more difficult because all of the archer towers are more efficient basically at not wasting DPS.

Nice little chart there, glad I'm working on lv 12 archer towers now. Might carry them right through to lv 13 given this news.

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Originally Posted by SirSaltySack

Please read entire post for explanation how it may be a nerf to all troops.

So not only will it decimate troops where 1 shots now could happen. All troops are effected whether now 1 shot kills, or tanks.

• Example old AT fires at 100 hp/shot/second. Now it fires 50/2shots/second.
• 50 HP troop (say an archer) will now be shot down every .5 seconds.
• A lvl 6 giant at 940 hp would take 10 shots/or 10 seconds of fire from AT to get killed from old AT.
• Now a lvl 6 giant will take 9.5 seconds worth of fire from AT.

Yes a single AT won't be tho only one firing at a time, but it will add up. Whether you gowipe with around 36 troops, or barch with 200+ troops, you will get take down just a little quicker.

• At 36 troop gowipe army, even if they are tanks, every troop will reach a point of low HP. If the HP drops under the 1/2 damage of an old archer tower, the new AT will be able to kill troop with 1 shot left over.

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I have been thinking about this too... Every .5 seconds it saves killing a troop would also means it get to retarget the next troop earlier. All these stacks up together making the archer tower really scary...

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Originally Posted by luke8999

Well technically speaking, all troops should die at in half the time. It is hard to tell but it will definetly be harder to barch. Maybe people will cetralize archer towers more. No more first line defense!

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no, maximum difference is half a second
maybe if they have less health than the updated arrows then it will be half, but for the most part, it is just a small change (that still makes a big difference)

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Originally Posted by andrgin

The question is what happens at higher range for example if archers are Shooting the Mound around the base. Then the second arrow will be already in the air when the unit is killed by the first arrow.

Take a look at the goblin at 3:46. It takes 3 arrows. 2 to be killed and the 3rd is wasted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fvoxqaLEIA

The question to me is: Would the retargeting time (additional 0.5 seconds to Change Targets) start after the 2nd arrow or after the 3rd, if there were another goblin in range and why did supercell not simply reduce the retargeting time?

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Good catch. Saw the arrow shoot into nothing. Only time will tell if that third arrow would hit another target if present. My guess is yes if the sole purpose is to take down low lvl hoards. It would defeat the purpose and nerf the AT if it didn't retarget at 1st or 2nd interval shot. Basically it would mean a 50% chance then AT doesn't retarget on kill shot. Seems silly

The sad thing is the Archer queen ability to summon archers will b highly affected too..
With my AQ when I usually use her ability is when the core is destroyed and she is taking out the defenses behind the core which usually consist of archer towers located behind storages or walls. Now that will certainly affect the archer queen ability to survive longer which is a major blow out. and it's an indirect nerf to the strongest hero in the game

I'm sure many high th10s do the same

You guys are forgetting one thing, the archer tower takes forever to change targets so it won't be as fast as half a second, the archer tower will still shoot 2 arrows to kill a unit that only takes one shot. Then the ladies will sit on their tower, have a cuppa then attack the next target.

TBH, i really like the changes of the archer towers. Barching is a very low "tactic" and annoys me everytime.