Barch/BAM/All archers will be dead at Master 3 because of the archer tower buffs

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Originally Posted by Seikijin

lv7 Archer 48hp.

Xbow lv4 is

10.24 dmg per shot @ 0.128s per shot. 0.128*5=0.64s. Before Xbows killed archers 0.36seconds faster than archer towers, now archer towers kill archers 0.14seconds faster than Xbows.

Let that sink in

Edit: Can some1 tell me why my posts always center themselves?

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cool story, bro

Yes it wil, be tougher, but still could be done, a little more strategy required.

Hey, at least they didn't double the fire-rate of the mortar too ;)

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Originally Posted by daboy

cool story, bro

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I tip my hat to you for at least understanding overkill... however I thought you were better than ''cool story bro''

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Originally Posted by Growler

I doubt it will have much of an impact really.

I guess they are taking baby steps to avoid upsetting the Barch bores, but the sooner it is truly killed off the better imo.

It is shameful that the game has descended into spamming the two most basic troops in the game for so many players

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If they want to get rid of barch they need to equalize the cook speed of all units. If a unit takes up 5 space, it should take exactly 5 times as long to make as a unit that takes up one space. If that happens then all armies will take the exact same amount of time to create. The speed of barch is always what has drawn me to it. The cost is just a bonus.

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Originally Posted by erethizon

If they want to get rid of barch they need to equalize the cook speed of all units. If a unit takes up 5 space, it should take exactly 5 times as long to make as a unit that takes up one space. If that happens then all armies will take the exact same amount of time to create. The speed of barch is always what has drawn me to it. The cost is just a bonus.

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Agreed. Obviously, equalizing the cook speed for all units would be a bit OP, but I see your point. I've never spent gems on this game and barching is really the only way I can raid without boosting. Otherwise, I have to wait for about an hour for the army comp to cook up. And, if I'm trying to save 5 million+, I'll probably get raided. Barch, don't leave us!

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Originally Posted by Keeper75

Thank you for pointing out the reason - i personaly wasn't seeing it.

So basicaly, this change forces TH10s to avoid barching against each others...well...more resilient against barch attacks in general (be the archers or barbs whatever level they are).

Anyway, this only affects who's TH10, because, by comparing every other town hall AT and barch troops (DPS/HP wise respectively), none can take a barch troop down in half a sec, except ATs level 13, which are only available at TH10.

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It also affects other barch armies. Using archers as an example, you are right that most archers will be able to take two shots from most archer towers that they face still resulting in 1 dead archer per second, but if a group of archers is first hit by a mortar the archer tower will now be able to kill them twice as fast at a rate of 2 per second. Barbarians are similarly affected.

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Originally Posted by Tim91

Maybe its a good thing Barch gets demolished?

This game is designed to destroy a base not lick the outsides for 50% with weak troops.

Atleast thats what i think.

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If the reward of demolishing said bases was worth it that is....which in a lot of cases it isnt with the lack of loot on most bases.

This is a nerf for barbarians at close range because they are killed with 3 shots in 1.5 seconds instead of 2 shots in 2 second.

However for most archer combination at longer ranges they will be killed with 2 arrows and 1 arrow will still be in the air so they kill them only in 1.5 seconds and they can still be healed.
I can be wrong but this seems more like a disadvantage to me.
Btw you can see the same effect for xbows that they get more effective against archers if they get closer.

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Originally Posted by victort

Looks like sc still pushing for people to use 'heavy'armies, which I am not adverse too, if the loot is there to make it worthwhile...

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I don't mind the cost too much, like you say if the loot is worth it. It is more the time to train the army that makes me favour barch.

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Originally Posted by SpiritKiller

It did mention the DPS are gonna be the same.
If i'm not mistaken :o:o

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Originally Posted by NoOnetoAttack

Nope, it says the damage is still the same. It shoots twice as fast tho :p

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Damage per second is the same. The arrows do less damage but shoot faster, hence the DPS is the same as it is now!