Barch/BAM/All archers will be dead at Master 3 because of the archer tower buffs

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Originally Posted by Growler

I doubt it will have much of an impact really.

I guess they are taking baby steps to avoid upsetting the Barch bores, but the sooner it is truly killed off the better imo.

It is shameful that the game has descended into spamming the two most basic troops in the game for so many players

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It's challenging to barch in higher leagues. lol.

I'm tired hearing the notion that barch is so easy to use at ANY league trophies.

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Originally Posted by NoOnetoAttack

I disagree with this. But we shall see.

barching is already hard in master 3, in higher leagues than that you have to press the boring "next button" more to choose the right bases. Will be easily doable if you have heroes, which I guess you always use in your attacks. CC troops will greatly help barching as well.

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I have had TONS of practise with barching in high leagues, its natural to me now. I can win against a full maxed base with my eyes closed.
But yes, not everyone has the time or patience.
Like you said, we shall see.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatLach

My barch is perfectly safe.
A level 12 archer tower will only do 43 damage per shot, a level 7 archer has 48hp.
A level 13 will do 49dps, but I dont raid that many farmers with lvl 13 archer towers.

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Originally Posted by NoOnetoAttack

I disagree with this. But we shall see.

barching is already hard in master 3, in higher leagues than that you have to press the boring "next button" more to choose the right bases. Will be easily doable if you have heroes, which I guess you always use in your attacks. CC troops will greatly help barching as well.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatLach

I have had TONS of practise with barching in high leagues, its natural to me now. I can win against a full maxed base with my eyes closed.
But yes, not everyone has the time or patience.
Like you said, we shall see.

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I'm aware that you are like one of the top barchers as far as trophy pushers go, so I have no doubt that you know how to handle most bases using them. But how will the 2x rate of fire/re-engaging be affected when you factor in that you're not just going up against single-target archer towers, but mortars/wiz towers that deal splash damage to the hoards as well?

As in, it's not just lvl 13 ATs that you are going to be concerned about, but lower level ATs will be able to one-shot your troops once a pack get hit with splash damage first. That's when the true value of that 2x firing rate will kick in, correct?

Lv13 archer tower is 98 dmg per shot, after update 49.
Lv7 archer have

48hp.
Lv7 barb have 125hp.

Archer's will die twice as fast as still being 1 shot every 0.5s instead of every 1s.
Barbarians will die 33% faster, before it took 2 shots at 1s, (2s). After the update it will take 3 shots at 0.5s (1.5s)

Do you even MATH? barching will become harder across the board... the people saying wait for the update... learn some math.

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Originally Posted by Goobers

I'm aware that you are like one of the top barchers as far as trophy pushers go, so I have no doubt that you know how to handle most bases using them. But how will the 2x rate of fire/re-engaging be affected when you factor in that you're not just going up against single-target archer towers, but mortars/wiz towers that deal splash damage to the hoards as well?

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Exactly right! It's all pure speculation at the moment, we are all on the same page. Time will tell.
Personally, I think given the amount of time this update has been in progress, supercell have thought it through clearly. They are aware of the complaints from farmers about bad loot, and barch is one of the most common armies. I dont think they would give it such a nerf that it becomes impossible.
But I'm certainly excited to see.

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Originally Posted by NoOnetoAttack

It's challenging to barch in higher leagues. lol.

I'm tired hearing the notion that barch is so easy to use at ANY league trophies.

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No it isn't.

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Originally Posted by Trancetravis

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Orrrrrr, I am th10 and I farm with loons in M2... and loot is barely acceptable but passable due to the league bonus...

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pass, barch is more efficient. Not bragging or anything, but my gold grab is more than twice as you :rolleyes:

Lv13 archer tower is 98 dmg per shot, after update 49.
Lv7 archer have

48hp.
Lv7 barb have 125hp.

Archer's will die twice as fast as still being 1 shot every 0.5s instead of every 1s.
Barbarians will die 33% faster, before it took 2 shots at 1s, (2s). After the update it will take 3 shots at 0.5s (1.5s)

Do you even MATH? barching will become harder across the board... the people saying wait for the update... learn some math.

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Originally Posted by Growler

No it isn't.

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Not saying it's impossible, but it requires a lot of patience to find the "right" base. If you have max or almost max heroes and boosting it, I agree it's a bit easier.

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Originally Posted by NoOnetoAttack

Not saying it's impossible, but it requires a lot of patience to find the "right" base. If you have max or almost max heroes and boosting it, I agree it's a bit easier.

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11 months ago I was a townhall 9 with level 8 heroes. I barched to 3600.