It is bad that they often miss war on the attack side due to upgrade.
It is bad that they often miss war on the attack side due to upgrade.
Exactly. I have spent probably $100 on gemming the time on my heroes during war, and I am sure people have spent much more, so why would they make them available? I have to admit though, it seems to be killing so e interest in clan wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kruzkal
SC would not do this, why lose money on people who gem their heroes for war
wiley
I agree with you but there's nothing much we can do about it other than managing the heroes upgrade times, learning doing wars using one hero only and may be opt out of regular wars & do war once a week :)
I can still use pekkas and I have those upgrading now, so why not heroes? Inferno tower is the most dangerous defence in the game and people can use those in war before they are even built, so why not heroes?
They said it was not supposed to be like that, but it is difficult to change the coding to make them available. This was prob the case in the beggining, but they must have made a hell of a lot of money from this and if they change it now and admit it should never have been the way it is, how many people are going to be demanding refunds?
I know I would. According to what supercell have said, they were supposed to be available, so am I paying money for something that I shouldn't have to.
Offense for wars is the same as normal raids, dunno why you are comparing it to lab when you should be comparing it to builders, since heroes take builders, similar to barracks or spell factory, which are also not available when being upgraded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendicus
This is correct. I wouldn't assume to have my lab or spell factory available to me while a builder is working on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gama321
Defensive units are still functioning in war however so that comparison isn't quite accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gama321
If I'm upgrading dragons to lvl 3, I still have lvl 2 dragons available for attacks. If I'm upgrading a lvl 7 cannon to lvl 8, it will function as a lvl 7 cannon in war. So I agree, having a hero available for war seems like a fair idea. Especially with how long the upgrade time can be the higher lvl it is.
Except that your defences arent active. They are only active on the war base. You do not have a separate war army, you use your normal army. It is necessary to have a war base for: layout, traps, cc, defence levels, which all need to be fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nictobramit
Yes SC would like to monetize, but they are also aware that there's a fair balance between monetization and user experience. The demand for this feature is high, esepcally for those that have heroes over lvl 15. All we are asking is to have heroes available for war, they would still sit out in regular time. I have already accepted the fact that raiding with one hero is the way to go for the next many months (T9 pushing heroes from 15 to 30), but still every time you missed a final clutch or 1%, unavailable heroes are the ones we tend to blame. It does get a bit worse especially when you are in a tight clan war where every single star is needed.
Though one logical reason I'd argue for making heroes available for war even when they are upgrading is that assuming heroes levels really plays into matchmaking factor (which I haven't found empirical evidence for), it is not exactly fair for those who has let's say lvl 39 heroes match you a tougher opponent but you don't have yours available due to upgrade. There are a few top rank people in my clan are doing hero push, some doing both at the same time. But yeah we make it work.
Just hope SC can come up with the solution soon :).
Listen to us sc
That's exactly what my point was. Defense units are still active on the war base. my suggestion was to allow upgrading heroes to be used for war attacks. not for all raids. that's the whole point of this thread. allowing them use in war attacks even if upgrading.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gama321
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Originally Posted by Gama321
Agree with both of these; of course I'd love to use my heroes whilst being upgraded in war, but I guess SC does want to monetize it somewhat;Quote:
Originally Posted by mmmk604
Fun Fact: Did you know that if you upgrade a SF with spells in it, you can still use those spells whilst the SF is being upgraded? You just can't create more.
Kruzkal won this thread. Game, set, match.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kruzkal
They wont with the new update leak.........................
this is what everyone wants :/
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Originally Posted by mask008
Everybody wants this, I think only SC is against it. Like many others have already said on the forums it is not profitable for them. There are far to many players who gem there heroes te let them participate in wars....
no.. gemmers would really be angry with this since they are the ones who pay to finish their heroes.
i believe you should learn how to war with no heroes. i am a th9 and i already getting used that heroes are unavailable during war..
supercell needs money and if there is no money coming in, supercell may just have cancelled the game. just like those other developers created that games gets cancelled one to two years after.
i dont want that to happen. well hopefully it wont happen and by next year we would want to have town hall 11, and lots of upgrades.
I agree with the OP completely and wish they would do it. But you are very correct in your reason why its not going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by wiley8
Given you do want to have your hero for that extra assurance of 3 star the only way to fight back is to eat the week away from wars so they don't make the money.
....totally unable to war if upgrading both heroes back to back...
Players might spend money to boost their DE drills to upgrade heroes back to back if they can use them in war..SC might earn even more...
No.
You upgrade your heroes - they should be out for wars.
This is strategy and your responsibility to leave a clan before war - or participate and do your best and challenge yourself to war without your hero.
Supecell wants your money – so gem your hero and use them during war. If not then leave while you upgrade your hero and you don’t let your clan down.
-Dinner
at th8, you only have the opportunity to upgrade ur BK to lv10. and in mass dragon attacks, bk is a small fly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dinner07
from LV10 BK to LV40 BK + LV40 AQ, it is minimum 350 days of upgrade time.
Please dont comment when you are not in the position to comment. Leaving the war for 350 days doesn't sound very smart or fun...
Yep :). On my way to get both heroes from 15 - 30....let's see... 15 levels) x 7(days) x 2 (heroes)= 210 daysQuote:
Originally Posted by necro17000
Conclusion= get used to raiding with handicap before SC does something~
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Originally Posted by necro17000
Don't patronise me ...
I am simply implying don't complain about wanting heroes to be present during war if you are going to upgrade them (however long it takes) and want to participate in war.
Be responsible and leave prior to commencement of a war (without your hero) as to not let the clan down if you require your hero active in order to achieve the required stars to win your war.
- dinner
And thats why i say it is a stupid idea. Leaving the clan and stop warring for 350 days sound really dumb to me. Maybe it sounds like a great idea to you, i dont know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dinner07
SC makes millions per day, I don't think they would lose much by allowing heroes to war. More people will war and be more active overall, resulting in more gems spent.