why do people keep posting threads congratulating some super low lvl th in masters or champs. sniping a th take no skill, and nexting for hours on end is a waste of time.
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why do people keep posting threads congratulating some super low lvl th in masters or champs. sniping a th take no skill, and nexting for hours on end is a waste of time.
Another question,
Why do people hate on snipers?
Anyone who comes on this forums and says, " I made champ!" Will get congratulated by me.
Whether youre a townhall 2, A townhall 10, or dont even play the game. (that would be a real achievment)
Champ is a milestone worthy of being congratulated. And that includes snipers.
lol this thread tho.
Tbh OP im pretty sure you haven't made it to champs. Getting there can be very time consuming and a bit of work.
Heres a better question, why do you care that someone congradulates someone for an achievement? and before you say you don't care, you obviously do if you made a thread about it
Because sniping as a low level to masters or champ takes dedication and patience. I think patience is one of the hardest things about this game.
That is so true!!Quote:
Originally Posted by hogyh03
Exactly what this guy said word for word ^ now a mod needs to close the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatLach
Time is the most important ressource in that game, even gems can't buy it when it is about nexting !Quote:
Originally Posted by hogyh03
i can agree that new threads can be pointless if they state the same thing, but reaching champs is actually not that easy! i feel the same way that it does not require much skill whatsoever but it takes TIME and just because of that people should be supportive OR simply ignore those threads who congratulate th snipers! i myself have argued multiple times about this in many different threads but the overall conclusion is that the player who actually achieved it needs to be given some props :)
You try it.
Then you'll know why.
So... you're cogratulating TH snipers because they got a lot of free time and press that next button a lot?Quote:
Originally Posted by pololo
As I've stated in earlier threads, I'm not at all impressed with TH sniping, I'm just congratulating people that get the champ badge because they are skilled players.
Congratulating a TH sniper for champ is like congratulating someone with 50 mill gold stolen for maxing out his base, one only takes time the other only takes money. :)
Well they are obviously smarter than us cause they went and got 3000 gems of achievements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beerking
This is a phone app. It's fun to max out a base, get to champs, and try to reach as high as you can. After you do that, find another game to play.
But to create another phone app account and take a low level to champs is depressing for me considering how much time it takes. Instead of saying "congrats", we should be saying "I'm sorry". Why not just stop after your bored with your TH10 and play a cool game on a PS4?
Again, this a phone app.
a mod needs to close this thread
The minute people arent just playing the game, but are on the forums for the game too, it becomes more than just a phone app. It becomes part of who you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rederick
Wow, that was deep.
Just cant work out why I dont have girls running at me left right and centre.
There's a much deeper problem going on here similar to MMO games like World of Warcraft in terms of addiction and facing/dealing with reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by clashcell
I congratulate low-level snipers because they give me a free shield without stealing a drop of loot :D
Long-live sniping!
Lol well that might be a little too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatLach
People make alt accounts for different reasons. Re-doing it just because you love the game, but want a refreshing start from the grind of a maxed base, starting over to see how fast you can max now that you know what/where/how to farm, go for a series of challenges like the defenseless champions series that was going on a few weeks ago, or just for fun to see how high you can reach with the most basic of troops.
Low Th snipers are dedicated and committed to their raiding sessions. Once they log off, trophy hunters will jump on that attack button like no other. That's why they have congrats pouring in. Its a low level strategy but it gets what everyone is looking for. For the defender a free 12-hour shield and a small hit in trophies, for the attacker, the league bonus and a couple trophies.
Here's a tissue...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stew00m
Haha that's true, if you think it's worth the time it's a smart way to do it, I was just referring to the congratulate part, it's a game and everyone should play it how they like, it just takes some skill in there to impress me.I'm doing 50% loons mostly myself and I'm more impressed by the people reaching high up with harder armies.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatLach
Imo it is not easy to Th snipe with all ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s pretending they want a shield but yet their th is trapped like a crazy.
Patience is a skill, and judging by the profits Supercell makes off gem purchases, it's probably the rarest skill in the game. Anyone can learn to attack properly with experience, but very few have the time or patience to do this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beerking
I really don't agree with that statement but I guess that depends on what you think the game is about, SC is making profit on the long upgrade time and the building time for the army, hero and spells, would you really classify someone as a good player just because they don't gem a building when all their builders are busy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba061
If you're good at attacking and are aware about how the game works (when to upgrade, base build, what to upgrade etc) I'd classify you as a good player, just sitting and waiting isn't a skill, it's a virtue.
why do u guys come here and say its to do with patience.... its not that.. its someone who has nothing better to do with their time or life.. why would you do it otherwise.. i have plenty of patience, but i would deem this as completely pointless and i have a busy life. I can guarantee at no point in my life will i ever have the time to do something like this, its just a waste of timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Scuba061
the more all of you glorify this, the more often it will happen, therefore champions league and 4k trophies becomes even less impressive, defeating the point of the game...
I play another game similar to clash but about heroes (lords) which has a much beter system.. it has a trophy part and resource raids, sniping does not exist since there is no need to hide loot in the trophy side, therefore it is still super impressive to be high in trophies
Well now you're talking about good vs bad play, which is a whole separate issue. This is simply about reaching an accomplishment that can be done several different ways. Either way, it's difficult to reach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beerking
A waste to you, but not others. Who are you to judge others how they use their time? Personally, I agree it's a waste of time because I just don't think it's worth the effort, nor do I have the time. But I want different things out of this game. I doubt I'll ever sniff Champions because I don't want to deal with the time it would take to move up just by normal raiding. But I'm not about to put down others because they don't share my priorities.Quote:
Originally Posted by hjennings69
Frankly, this kind of response is similar to all the people who berate gemmers as ♥♥♥♥♥ers. It's an attitude that reeks of jealousy that someone accomplished something in a way that you can't.
Glad you have time to come on the forums and complain though. 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by hjennings69
Real busy.
Th snipping is not skill. Just losing time to join company (gemms company) to champion league. And sit all day (like 6 hours sessions) is not skill. Also champion players are not skilled at all. Lot of them spend fortune to be there. And I especially like th 6 snippers who already haved 5 huts :) Btw even people who spend money are smarter than this one who try few weeks to play (th snipping is play?) just to get gems or prove us how they have patience. And what than? All day to sit and be online bcs someone will take 50 trophey lol. Or go back in silver 3. I dont complain and dont care but this is not skill. I seen loot skilled players in wars who even dont reach master league.
Even if u dont snipe it doesnt take too much skill to hit champs. Im currently using 240 archers and getting 50%. Im farming at 2650-2750.
I dont have usable heroes and i never use 5 spells and cc. With heroes spells and cc, 50% is nearly guaranteed. So this requires no skill as well. It all boils down to perseverance.
Shoot I wish I could congratulate every sniper who snipes my TH instead of messing with my loot. Like the guy 10 minutes ago who passed up on 800k and 1500 DE and chose those 4 trophies. Thanks buddy!!
No skills? Try mastering paitence..Quote:
Originally Posted by Stew00m
They may have no skill, but they have a lot of patience. I do completely agree with you that sniping to Master or Champion League is nothing to be proud of (I wouldn't feel good about it anyway), but it is nice to see a low level TH above 3,200 trophies. :)
The "issue" was whether or not it requires skill to reach high by TH sniping, as in if they are skilled players, which is why the OP asks why people congratulate a accomplishment that everyone can do if they had the time for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba061
And there we are again, something that only takes time to do isn't hard, annoying and boring yes but not hard, as in you don't need to be skilled to do it.
Well, not everyone has time to do it. So that alone is what makes it difficult. The same could be said for reaching Champs the traditional way. Just like sniping, it's something that doesn't tons of skill. There's nothing in this game that can't be done by anyone who puts in the time and effort to learn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beerking
So it's really an issue of not congratulating someone for what you deem as taking a shortcut to reach the same goal. No matter how it's done, though, only a small percentage of players ever reach Champs.
It just seems petty to me to refuse recognition because someone did something differently.
Let me enlighten you on basic human decency, since it appear you were never taught.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stew00m
When something special happens to someone or they succeed at completing a goal it's courteous to congratulate them. In this case the player set out on a long mission to reach champion, a mission he knew would take a long time, and he succeeded. The proper thing to do is congratulate him regardless of how much skill it takes.
Does it take skill to walk 100 miles? Does it take skill to get a women pregnant? Not really. But if that's what someone set out to do then you should congratulate them.
Very shallow, narrow-minded response. Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.Quote:
Originally Posted by hjennings69
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/difficult Just cause you don't have the time to do something doesn't make it a difficult task, I didn't have time to shop today, that doesn't mean that I think it's hard to shop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba061
But if you put in the time and effort to learn how to play the game you're suddenly a skilled player, winning over bases takes skill, you can compare the good and bad ones in wars, can you really not see the difference? I you practice football every day and becomes a starter in a team, isn't that more impressive then if you're the son of the coach and becomes a starter that way?
Lengthy tangential discussions aside, the answer to the question is, "Because they think it's worth praise."Quote:
Originally Posted by Stew00m
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Originally Posted by Beerking
You guys need to learn the definition of congratulate. It doesn't necessarily mean praise or skill is involved....Quote:
Originally Posted by MoriartyLives
Sorry, but those are both terrible analogies. First off, because it still takes time to reach Champs the traditional way. Again, there's nothing so difficult in this game that can't be done without time. The term skill is thrown around way too loosely. Time is the greatest resource and patience is the most important skill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beerking
Furthermore, in regards to the football analogy, that makes no sense at all. The sniper still had to work his tail off to get to Champs, while you're trying to compare the sniper to someone who was handed the job while doing nothing.
I have never said that either, you "guy" need to read my posts before answering them :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragequitter
I've only said that I don't believe it's worth congratulating anyone if it doesn't require any skill in achieving it, just as I'm not congratulating people because they managed to take a step. That's my opinion and I don't care if you congratulate people for it or not, I just don't see why except beeing nice, the threads are not started by the ones reaching champ though, everyone I've seen is started by someone else.
Before you throw your baby analogy at me I have to ask, are you congratulating people that gets a baby without having planned it?
Well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragequitter
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Originally Posted by Scuba061
The first wasn't a analogy for the game, it was for your usage of the word "difficult".
I'm pretty sure that there's a lot of people that can't reach #1 spot even if they played all day every day, have you tried winning every attack for a few months at high champ?
Patience is still not a skill... a skill is something that you learn with patience and practice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skill.
He didn't have to learn anything to reach champ, the analogy was just meant to highlight that part, he got no skill and it's something anyone can do, reaching champ the traditional way takes skill because you have to beat different bases to get there, learn which to attack, which don't to attack, deployment, composition etc, beeing a good player. Champ is easy nowadays I agree with you on that but it wasn't always.
A skill is something that can be learned and developed as you said. Well, patience is something that can be learned and developed, so that sounds like a skill to me. Now, to what degree varies for people based on innate qualities, but patience is certainly something that can be taught.
And I guarantee you he had to learn stuff. Avoiding trapped THs is a skill learned by snipers. It also requires discipline to stay away from these traps. And unless he gemmed resources, he probably had to barch for resources at several points.
By that definition everything is a skill, I don't agree with that and I'm sure most people wouldn't but I don't care much about discussing semantics, if that's the definition you're using (character trademarks are skills aswell) I'm agreeing with you but not by my definition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba061
Avoid a trapped TH... really? Alright, quick lesson, don't attack a TH that isn't in the very corner of a base, all the THs that isn't are either trapped or in range of defences, everyone that read this part is now just as "skilled" as TH snipers in the 4k range.
If they barch and win I'm impressed, I don't believe I've seen or heard of anyone doing that though, since they are mainly relying on barch in that case and per definition isn't the TH snipers we're talking about.
Nicely summed up aTh :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aTh
Hey btw! Hope you are well mate!
You know very well that doesn't mean squat if a TH is in the corner. I've seen loads in the corner away from the base that are surrounded by teslas and bombs and skeletons, etc.
If you're a very low TH and you hit this, you're screwed and just wasted hours or even a whole days work.
And you're right, we are debating semantics with this, but it's Friday and almost done work, so here I am, haha.
Also, bear in mind a key part of this relates to the players level. If we're talking about a TH10 sniping his way to Champs, then I'd agree that's pretty lame. They have a lot of margin for error and it's a stupid, inefficient use of time and resources. But a very low TH can't afford a mistake without ruining his entire day of sniping. That's what is impressive.
That's why I wrote "in the very corner", every other base in champ league is trapped or covered by atleast 1 defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba061
TH level doesn't matter much, that's the point, both just as many trophies if they fail, gain just as many if they succeed, ofc if you mean that the TH 10 brings enough army to take down a trapped base or one within defences then sure it's a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba061
The very corner still doesn't mean anything. Still room for 4 teslas. And that's why I said margin for error. If a high TH hits that trap, they can still defeat it. But good luck destroying a TH with level 3 troops with 4 maxed teslas zapping away at your 150 overmatched troops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beerking
it is way easier to get to master with a strong army than snipping...
I've tried it at th6.. 7 and didn't bother at th8
only succeeded at th9 with legit army
You just became my sig. Nice words, man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragequitter
One thing I always wondered (which probably cant be answered here), can bunnies find exposed THs?