th9 and th8 raids too oppressive.

It would be great if SC would balance the situation with TH9 on TH8 raids; this story is always the same, a bunch of giants with some heal spells is the guaranteed way to easy pickings.

Even with maxed out defenses, there is nothing a TH8 can do to minimize losses. Nothing. You introduced a Town Hall 9 with his or her giants and heal spell, and they not only collect hundreds of thousands of resources, but they also get a ton of trophies with minimal effort. They could drop their giants, drop a wall breaker or two, virtually anywhere, with no thought put into the attack, and get a three star victory. The giants + heal are just that oppressive.

If I spend all my gold and elixir, I still get stomped for my DE being saved up. It usually means I get three starred on top of losing 1000-2000 DE. I have 1.5 million gold or elixir? Which is not that uncommon as upper level structures start becoming expensive at this level, good chance a TH9 will come to town and take over 200K each.

How often do I encounter a TH7 worth raiding? Almost never.

if a giant healer combo can easily 3 star your base, then i am certain that there's something wrong with your base design. Look onto that first

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Originally Posted by Xizeta

It would be great if SC would balance the situation with TH9 on TH8 raids; this story is always the same, a bunch of giants with some heal spells is the guaranteed way to easy pickings.

Even with maxed out defenses, there is nothing a TH8 can do to minimize losses. Nothing. You introduced a Town Hall 9 with his or her giants and heal spell, and they not only collect hundreds of thousands of resources, but they also get a ton of trophies with minimal effort. They could drop their giants, drop a wall breaker or two, virtually anywhere, with no thought put into the attack, and get a three star victory. The giants + heal are just that oppressive.

If I spend all my gold and elixir, I still get stomped for my DE being saved up. It usually means I get three starred on top of losing 1000-2000 DE. I have 1.5 million gold or elixir? Which is not that uncommon as upper level structures start becoming expensive at this level, good chance a TH9 will come to town and take over 200K each.

How often do I encounter a TH7 worth raiding? Almost never.

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If a TH9 can't beat a TH8 what's the point of upgrading your Townhall?

At first youre a nail....keep upgrading....and then you become the hammer.

In the meantime redesign your base that funnels giants and wallbreakers into traps. There are plenty on Youtube. Then at TH9 you will get crushed by TH10 Ballonian....this never ends.

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Originally Posted by vincentboy

if a giant healer combo can easily 3 star your base, then i am certain that there's something wrong with your base design. Look onto that first

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^ this. i'm mid-TH8 and don't get 3 starred by that army comp.

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Originally Posted by Xizeta

It would be great if SC would balance the situation with TH9 on TH8 raids; this story is always the same, a bunch of giants with some heal spells is the guaranteed way to easy pickings.

Even with maxed out defenses, there is nothing a TH8 can do to minimize losses. Nothing. You introduced a Town Hall 9 with his or her giants and heal spell, and they not only collect hundreds of thousands of resources, but they also get a ton of trophies with minimal effort. They could drop their giants, drop a wall breaker or two, virtually anywhere, with no thought put into the attack, and get a three star victory. The giants + heal are just that oppressive.

If I spend all my gold and elixir, I still get stomped for my DE being saved up. It usually means I get three starred on top of losing 1000-2000 DE. I have 1.5 million gold or elixir? Which is not that uncommon as upper level structures start becoming expensive at this level, good chance a TH9 will come to town and take over 200K each.

How often do I encounter a TH7 worth raiding? Almost never.

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Was the same for me, guess I could have finished my skull walls in no time instead of wasting all that time on hero levels when you need 30k+ DE as th8 there is either giantwizhealer combo casual play or barchlightning. I did only the giwihealer but I lost more then I gained everytime when I had 25-28k so could stay around 25k for a week while farming de sometimes ad I didn't have time to stay online between raids due to need of spells ^^ guess tho I hate to get lightningstrikes on me, you should try that while barching collectors at gold-crystal, th outside and minimize ur elixir and gold, otherwise I'd say best option is max everything else but 30k+ DE upgrades and go th9 for the new drill levels and unit upgrades and there ain't gonna be trouble saving 50k+ without looking for de

That's the trade off for having better loot at th 8. Attack in bunches and make much more than they raid from you and you'll be fine. Or you could do the quick fix and upgrade th 9 and just max that out with more defenses. Or even better stay in lower leagues and you will be less likely to be bullied. Either way there's always going to be someone that can come in and kick your a$$.

Also make sure you design your base to where the Clan castle is in the middle. I know it's easier to get to in th 8s because you have less walls but some giant attackers forget to take care of CC troops and if you have a good donating clan that donates wizards or dragons they will protect your loot much better than any other defense. Traps are essential too.

After having been hammered earlier today by a TH10 raider, I sympathize up to a point. I am a current TH9, and love to use 8 giants and 8 WB with 84 archers, 80 barbs, as my general purpose raiding army. Depending upon the base, I get usually get to the DE, unless the layout is really good. It's a 23 minute army. It's 45 minutes if I burn both heroes in the previous raid. TH8 in my trophy range are potential targets, and that's the reality of things.

We can either sit back and farm and hope that the rate of mine and elixir production outstrips the raiders' ability to take it from us, or raid often enough to offset those losses when our storages become juicy enough to attract a full on raid.

If I sink it into walls, then the loot total isn't enough to provoke a raid. If I want to save up for an upgrade, however, it becomes a mix of timing and aggression and shield management to get enough for an upgrade. 3 million gold means that over 300k is in play for a potential raider. Who wouldn't think about that? None of my upgrades for any of the major defenses are less than 3.2 mill at this point in the game.

I am going to raid to build the difference, unless your base is confusingly well crafted and/or lacking in loot.

You can drop trophies in the hope that you are less likely to be hit, but that's no guarantee either.

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Originally Posted by 1thatknocks

If a TH9 can't beat a TH8 what's the point of upgrading your Townhall?

At first youre a nail....keep upgrading....and then you become the hammer.

In the meantime redesign your base that funnels giants and wallbreakers into traps. There are plenty on Youtube. Then at TH9 you will get crushed by TH10 Ballonian....this never ends.

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ha, then at TH10 you get zapped non stop! Everyone zaps you once you have 170K de in stores! Try defending against that

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Originally Posted by Beancounter

ha, then at TH10 you get zapped non stop! Everyone zaps you once you have 170K de in stores! Try defending against that

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You don't need 170K to be zapped, 60K is enough since the max DE a th10 can have is 5% up to 60000 => 3k DE

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Originally Posted by Alex78

You don't need 170K to be zapped, 60K is enough since the max DE a th10 can have is 5% up to 60000 => 3k DE

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true, but it is a lot harder to get the max amount when you only got 60K de. In fact I never get zapped with that paltry amount in stores. But at 150K plus every zap steals a ton! How much they steal is directly related to how full the stores are. Even though it is capped at 3K. Then zappers start drooling when they see a full max de stores!

But to the OP, I think giants plus heal is the ban of most bases until TH10. When discos put the smack down on that army hard. Whenever I farm th9s it is either barch, balloons/min(usually overkill) or giants plus heall spell.

Max wizzie in CC can put a hurting on mass giants though. Even a cc full of max barbs can work a number on them. And I really like watching balloons blow giants to bits! Centralized CC and spring trap lures are the best defense at TH8.