Helping casual high end th progressing with casual play

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December 3rd, 2014
AlvinSoehendryWijaya

Helping casual high end th progressing with casual play

Just want to make thread/idea to help people or my slef when switch to casual mode

my suggest is make limit on how much a village can be raided in total in a week/month
make his raid as variable too

example a th10 try to have lv 3 inferno but he is lately busy and switch to casual play
how he can pay 8 mil gold
with this system it will gives 8 mil gold in 1 month (400k a day x 30 )12 m
his limit per month bcoz he doesnt raid about 2 mil or 3 mil
i think thats a good deal

note
i am in gardcore farm mode farming 4 m each gold and elix each per day
just want to make insurance idea when i swicth to casual when have too much work
December 3rd, 2014
Scuba061

You do realize there'd be no one to raid after a few days, right? You'd be turning this into a game where the goal is to simply log on and mindlessly tap collectors.

Furthermore, casual play does not lead to high end. Would you expect an athlete who casually trains to be a high end player? Do you expect an aspiring musician who casually practices to be a successful musician? It's not any different in the gaming world. If you want the best features and upgrades, you have to put in the time. If it was too easy no one would play and the game would be worthless. The game wouldn't be free anymore either since there's no incentive for people to spend money on an easy game.

What's great about this game is you don't have to be a hardcore gamer to enjoy it. And if you have enough patience, you really could unlock most features playing casually.
December 3rd, 2014
AlvinSoehendryWijaya

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Originally Posted by Scuba061

You do realize there'd be no one to raid after a few days, right? You'd be turning this into a game where the goal is to simply log on and mindlessly tap collectors.

Furthermore, casual play does not lead to high end. Would you expect an athlete who casually trains to be a high end player? Do you expect an aspiring musician who casually practices to be a successful musician? It's not any different in the gaming world. If you want the best features and upgrades, you have to put in the time. If it was too easy no one would play and the game would be worthless. The game wouldn't be free anymore either since there's no incentive for people to spend money on an easy game.

What's great about this game is you don't have to be a hardcore gamer to enjoy it. And if you have enough patience, you really could unlock most features playing casually.

Basicly what i ask how help people with near maxxing base to play casual to still progress on game
i am not ask make things easy sometimes people quit bcoz they simply to much attached to game
and this only happen to people that collect their loot daily in active can still be wiped
i also encourage inactive base get 100 wiped
(their collector give 100% loot no pinalty to any th)
since they dont use them
this will help loot
December 3rd, 2014
Scuba061

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Originally Posted by AlvinSoehendryWijaya

Basicly what i ask how help people with near maxxing base to play casual to still progress on game
i am not ask make things easy sometimes people quit bcoz they simply to much attached to game
and this only happen to people that collect their loot daily in active can still be wiped
i also encourage inactive base get 100 wiped
(their collector give 100% loot no pinalty to any th)

The only help out there is dropping to a low league and relying on collectors. Keep your TH outside for easy snipes. If you're a near maxed base it's highly unlikely you'll be attacked very often, if at all. Ride your shields and raid only when you have time. Many upgrades take 10-14 days at TH10, so that's more than enough time to build up enough to keep at least one builder busy to progress. It's slow, but you'll progress.
December 3rd, 2014
AlvinSoehendryWijaya

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Originally Posted by Scuba061

The only help out there is dropping to a low league and relying on collectors. Keep your TH outside for easy snipes. If you're a near maxed base it's highly unlikely you'll be attacked very often, if at all. Ride your shields and raid only when you have time. Many upgrades take 10-14 days at TH10, so that's more than enough time to build up enough to keep at least one builder busy to progress. It's slow, but you'll progress.

But they get zapped
like someone say u cant get a cake and eat it too
December 3rd, 2014
Scuba061

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Originally Posted by AlvinSoehendryWijaya

But they get zapped
like someone say u cant get a cake and eat it too

You sure will get zapped, but that's beneficial to you. You won't be losing any of your gold and elixir, so you could be pulling in 500k of each everyday without any losses. Also as a TH10 I'd hope you have 3 max drills so even if you lose 2.5k DE per day from zaps, you'll still be pulling in 5k profit.

These numbers also assume you do zero raiding. If you raid just a little, you'll come out even more ahead.

Zappers are your friends as long as you leave the TH outside. Most zappers will give you the shield as well. They are essentially protecting the rest of your resources for a small dark elixir fee, with you still coming out ahead.
December 3rd, 2014
iceageg

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Originally Posted by Scuba061

The only help out there is dropping to a low league and relying on collectors. Keep your TH outside for easy snipes. If you're a near maxed base it's highly unlikely you'll be attacked very often, if at all. Ride your shields and raid only when you have time. Many upgrades take 10-14 days at TH10, so that's more than enough time to build up enough to keep at least one builder busy to progress. It's slow, but you'll progress.

Hey Scuba. That other failure of a thread got deleted seconds after I responded to your similar response. I understand and am OK with clash not being a fit for my gaming style. I learned to move on to other games when I boxed up my CelicoVision and Atari to make room for my NES. I am just sticking around the forums here a bit longer in hopes that my 2 hours of gaming time (in small chunks) can be as useful as 2 consecutive hours that I can rarely find. You know, squeeze a little more enjoyment out of a really good game. SC certainly doesn't "need" me in game or on the forums any more than I "need" clash in my life. Just a fun way to spend time that was a fit, is no longer, but could be.

Anyway, I don't think the OP's idea of switching modes is the right way to go. Casual players should have their progress slowed down dramatically, just not stopped entirely. There have been some very long discussions about the availability of loot which included more comprehensive solutions for the issue being discussed. I am sure it is on SC's radar. There are many better solutions than "Drop to 200" if SC is interested in accommodating our customer base. If not that's fine too. Just wish they would say something. The next update will be telling indeed.
December 3rd, 2014
Scuba061

Haha, yep. I should've known better to reply. I knew that thread was going down.

But yeah, it's tough. I still have it easy, but entering TH9, I'm approaching the point where it will be difficult to keep all 5 builders busy. You said you had 3 accounts. Have you considered dropping 2 to focus on just 1? Seems you're spreading yourself thin for 1 game when time is already at a premium.
December 3rd, 2014
AlvinSoehendryWijaya

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Originally Posted by Scuba061

Haha, yep. I should've known better to reply. I knew that thread was going down.

But yeah, it's tough. I still have it easy, but entering TH9, I'm approaching the point where it will be difficult to keep all 5 builders busy. You said you had 3 accounts. Have you considered dropping 2 to focus on just 1? Seems you're spreading yourself thin for 1 game when time is already at a premium.

Realize or not clash is time consuming game
Its harder for people at end lv(its unavoidable)
but its need to have balance even its harder n slower is fine but not stopped entirely
too much time consuming can make people quit
i play clash too much and decided to have half week break(of course have planned my builder to time consuming building) so even i break all my builder still busy

i consider to switch to full casual in 3 month hoping maxing th9 before that
December 3rd, 2014
iceageg

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Originally Posted by Scuba061

Haha, yep. I should've known better to reply. I knew that thread was going down.

But yeah, it's tough. I still have it easy, but entering TH9, I'm approaching the point where it will be difficult to keep all 5 builders busy. You said you had 3 accounts. Have you considered dropping 2 to focus on just 1? Seems you're spreading yourself thin for 1 game when time is already at a premium.

I have effectively dropped all 3 and only ever "played" one of them. The second one was created soon after I started my clan simply to donate troops. I rushed it to 8 in record time and hardly ever attacked with it. Fortunately it was fairly stout by the time wars were implemented. These days it is maxed except for 2 barracks. 5 lazy builders upgrading walls as fast as my collectors can fund them.

The third account was an experiment. Sort of a "if I had known then . . ." replay of the early levels. The answer was dramatic. TH1-6 flew by at an astonishing pace. It was a 100% maxed TH7 and now is a new TH8 trying to ride out collector loot for upgrades.

The TH9 main account is well developed with about half defenses needing one more level and walls. I have not raided in weeks with any of them because it is obvious that nothing has changed. I just log in to help friends with wars and spend my loot away as best I can.

When the loot drought started to slide below TH10 I started playing the TH8's more just because they were more fun but once the loot problem started showing signs of infection at that level I stopped.

These days I spend my actual game time either trying other/new/different games or here making a last ditch effort at making what is an awesome game TH1-7 and a good game TH8-early TH9 into a good game for TH9-10 also (for a wide enough cross section of people to include myself). Perhaps I should just dig my NES out of storage and get in a good mindless Rampage marathon instead . . . yea. Where is my locker key?
December 3rd, 2014
Scuba061

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Originally Posted by AlvinSoehendryWijaya

Realize or not clash is time consuming game
Its harder for people at end lv(its unavoidable)
but its need to have balance even its harder n slower is fine but not stopped entirely
too much time consuming can make people quit
i play clash too much and decided to have half week break(of course have planned my builder to time consuming building) so even i break all my builder still busy

i consider to switch to full casual in 3 month hoping maxing th9 before that

I was referring to a different thread, not this one. And yes, it's very time consuming. The makers of these games know there is a limit most players will reach before they quit.

I recommend making sure your collectors and drills are all maxed to optimize your down time.
December 3rd, 2014
Scuba061

Where do you farm at? All the 9s in my clan farm in the Gold 1 to 3 range, and they are doing good with loot. I'm in Gold 3 and it's loaded. I'll be staying here the first 6 weeks or so of TH9 while I build up my new level.

And nothing wrong with NES action!
December 3rd, 2014
AlvinSoehendryWijaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba061

Where do you farm at? All the 9s in my clan farm in the Gold 1 to 3 range, and they are doing good with loot. I'm in Gold 3 and it's loaded. I'll be staying here the first 6 weeks or so of TH9 while I build up my new level.

And nothing wrong with NES action!

G1
Basicly get 3 mil each per 6 hours
its not good spent time to much
i think loot need to be easier i use barch btw
December 3rd, 2014
Nym

It suppose to get harder to upgrade as you progress throw the game

My opinion is that, this is how the game was intended to work and there no need to change it. As a player progress threw many games it suppose to be hard and take longer to finish things off.

I have seen many player spend thousands of dollars on gems just to finish maxing there base to only quit playing. Me on the other hand iam taking my time enjoying the lovely game Supercell has provided. I guess the way i look at it is, when you get to the "END" thats, it noting else to look forward to so why rush.

Currently:
Clan: Crucible Lust
IGN: Nymeria
LV: 120
TH: 10
December 4th, 2014
iceageg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba061

Where do you farm at? All the 9s in my clan farm in the Gold 1 to 3 range, and they are doing good with loot. I'm in Gold 3 and it's loaded. I'll be staying here the first 6 weeks or so of TH9 while I build up my new level.

And nothing wrong with NES action!

I was farming my TH9 from C3-G3. The TH8s from G2-S1. All 3 moving up and down in trophies to find the sweet spot. As little as 4 or 5 months ago I could get in a solid barch run or 2 in 10-20 minutes that would at least cover the cost of breaking my shield. In the last few months it turned into break shield, next for 10-15 minutes and find nothing, get attacked and loose 200k. Wait till next work break, next for 10-15 minutes, loose 200k. wait for lunch break, next for 30 minutes, loose 200k. About one day per week I would find loot and be able to play in the evening for a few hours. The rest of the week I was just tapping next as I made dinner/walked the dog/etc. in hopes of finding something that would cover the cost of braking my shield. When I have 2+ hours to play solid through I can pick at lower yield targets and eventually find some sweet loot which guarantees me forward progress even after I am attacked. I just don't have that sort of free time these days.

The frustration for me is that just a few months ago it wasn't a problem (it supported my 2 hours in chunks play style) and now it is. It's not that I have simply grown out of the game, it's that the game was changed to be unplayable for me. SC made a few seemingly small changes during that time that stripped huge amounts of resources from the game and did nothing until recently to begin replacing them. The TH7 based economy that is our foundation is inadequate to support the ever increasing spending needs of the developing player base and the effects are being felt by more and more players. I don't want to start another debate about which way is best to fix it. Lord knows those threads have come and gone and SC has seen every suggestion under the sun by now. Just talking simply supply vs. demand economics. Players are spending loot faster than it is being generated into the economy. Only three ways that can pan out. 1) Wait until it is all dried up and everybody quits, 2) reduce the number of high spending (TH9-10) players, 3) inject more resources into the economy. So far it looks like SC's plan is #2. I'm still hoping for #3 for a little longer.