Just remove loot penalty for collectors

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Originally Posted by junyab

This is actually a very interesting idea.

The one issue I can see if that if 10's and 9's can get the same amount of resources from collectors it'll take away those collector raids from lower TH's.

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Yeah, but the lower THs don't need the loot as much. It costs under 1 million to upgrade most defenses at th7, whereas at th 9 and 10 it costs 4 million+.

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Originally Posted by Kirky

No, we should be encouraged to raid bases properly not play about on the outside looking for collectors. This only really helps players that play way more than average. I really can't see SC helping those guys out.

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Not really sure how raiding collectors is "improper."

No absolutly not.

Actually pretty genius.

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Originally Posted by azlaier

This seems like a fairly obvious fix, for me: why not just remove the loot penalty for collectors? The loot penalty was intended to protect lower levels from being bullied by higher levels, but if a town hall 7 isn't bothering to move his collector loot into storages, there's no reason to protect that loot. Hell, SuperCell has said a couple of times they want to reward higher town halls, loot-wise, not punish them; give a loot BONUS for collectors for higher town halls. Instead of getting 50% from a town hall level below you, one could get 60%... and 70% for two town hall levels below, and so on. But seeing how, as a TH9, it takes no less skill for me to raid a town hall 7's collectors than another TH7 doing the same, I see no way in which the current loot penalty on collectors aligns with SuperCell's stated desires for high town halls' access to loot.

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Awesome idea and totally agreed.

The biggest loss of loot at th10 is th8 collector raids. TH8 seems to be where the majority of inactive bases are and a th10 sees 100-120k of each on a th8 with full collectors, where a th9 would see roughly double that.

Keep the loot penalty for storages in place as that's totally fair, but take it off of collectors and feed the economy.

Instead of removing loot penalty, allow bigger % loot from collectors (e.g. 75%, like for drills) That way partially inactive bases become viable more quickly and the downside of the loot penalty vs th8s is also reduced

And then what? Supercell starts treating bases that have been hit twice with no activity as inactives and chucks them from the matchmaking queue, as opposed to them waiting a measly week or whatever it is? They'll see people changing their playing habits to entirely hit collectors of lower levels as it won't change the fact that there are no other options: inactives are gone, storage raids of TH9/10s are also non-existent. So SC does the next logical move in their giant economic market run by drunken monkeys and start accelerating even semi-inactive accounts out of the system. Glorious.

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Originally Posted by Goobers

And then what? Supercell starts treating bases that have been hit twice with no activity as inactives and chucks them from the matchmaking queue, as opposed to them waiting a measly week or whatever it is? They'll see people changing their playing habits to entirely hit collectors of lower levels as it won't change the fact that there are no other options: inactives are gone, storage raids of TH9/10s are also non-existent. So SC does the next logical move in their giant economic market run by drunken monkeys and start accelerating even semi-inactive accounts out of the system. Glorious.

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Originally Posted by davidmik

Instead of removing loot penalty, allow bigger % loot from collectors (e.g. 75%, like for drills) That way partially inactive bases become viable more quickly and the downside of the loot penalty vs th8s is also reduced

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I think that he does mean only on collectors, I think it would work. Collector raids only work on TH7+ (and mostly non-rushed only, most rushed bases don't have leveled collectors) so I think it wouldn't be too bad. Most collector raids are indeed TH8 which is impossible for TH10 to get.

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Originally Posted by Kirky

No, we should be encouraged to raid bases properly not play about on the outside looking for collectors. This only really helps players that play way more than average. I really can't see SC helping those guys out.

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Ye, let us all raid "properly" and get ~200k an hour, get 1.2mil resources max at the 6 hour mark (if you have that time to blow then get kicked off). Then get raided for about 120k. Not to mention the gold you will lose nexting. When will you upgrade walls? When will you get enough gold to upgrade defenses and research troops?

This is a mobile game to have fun and mellow out whenever you can not a game where you have to constantly pay attention to it and treat it like a job. Collector raids, TH snipes and inactive bases, whether you like it or not, are necessary for this game to function "properly."

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Originally Posted by Gpu

Ye, let us all raid "properly" and get ~200k an hour, get 1.2mil resources max at the 6 hour mark (if you have that time to blow then get kicked off). Then get raided for about 120k. Not to mention the gold you will lose nexting. When will you upgrade walls? When will you get enough gold to upgrade defenses and research troops?

This is a mobile game to have fun and mellow out whenever you can not a game where you have to constantly pay attention to it and treat it like a job. Collector raids, TH snipes and inactive bases, whether you like it or not, are necessary for this game to function "properly."

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+1, sir, great points. Without all these things the game really wouldn't work. It might not be the direction SC wanted to go but hell, it's where they are now.