Please add this to clan wars asap. I don't want my friends to hate me

"My girlfriends family joined my clan too, how am I supposed to kick them?"


There are crude work-arounds. "Kick them, press the war button, invite." It is still "a slap in the face".


Create "a non war clan". OK. You need a spare device to create and manage it. And then it is a collection of inactives. No one donates. They don't seen the main clan chat. It is a place of dereliction.


What's needed is an additional "inactive members" subgroup. These inactive members should feel part of the clan, but not burden the clan. The should get the clan chat feed, be able to post to the clan chat, and be able to freely move into the clan-proper.


Their ability to move into the clan-proper may have to be constrained by the size limit of the clan-proper (currently 50). Should they be allowed to donate? Maybe not, if it could be used to game wars. Should they be allowed to receive donations? Yes, definitely able to receive, because that's how they will transition back into being active.

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Originally Posted by George1971

"My girlfriends family joined my clan too, how am I supposed to kick them?"


There are crude work-arounds. "Kick them, press the war button, invite." It is still "a slap in the face".


Create "a non war clan". OK. You need a spare device to create and manage it. And then it is a collection of inactives. No one donates. They don't seen the main clan chat. It is a place of dereliction.


What's needed is an additional "inactive members" subgroup. These inactive members should feel part of the clan, but not burden the clan. The should get the clan chat feed, be able to post to the clan chat, and be able to freely move into the clan-proper.


Their ability to move into the clan-proper may have to be constrained by the size limit of the clan-proper (currently 50). Should they be allowed to donate? Maybe not, if it could be used to game wars. Should they be allowed to receive donations? Yes, definitely able to receive, because that's how they will transition back into being active.

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Does it come with nanny to tell you what a good boy you've been, and reads you bedtime stories?

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Originally Posted by George1971

Create "a non war clan". OK. You need a spare device to create and manage it. And then it is a collection of inactives. No one donates. They don't seen the main clan chat. It is a place of dereliction.

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We had several low level members from our clan start a farming/feeder clan after they agreed they were not ready for 24/7 war. It has been many months, and the farming/feeder that started with four or five members now has 25-30. They war once a week and members can jump to the main clan to observe or fight a war or two whenever they want. We have a messaging app and message board that allows us to keep in touch with the farming/feeder, and everyone's happy.

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Originally Posted by George1971

What's needed is an additional "inactive members" subgroup. These inactive members should feel part of the clan, but not burden the clan. The should get the clan chat feed, be able to post to the clan chat, and be able to freely move into the clan-proper.

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Absolutely not. Why should "inactive" members be made to feel that they're part of the clan? You either participate, or you don't. Who wants to have guys on the roster who just pop in to chat from time to time? I certainly don't.

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Originally Posted by George1971

Their ability to move into the clan-proper may have to be constrained by the size limit of the clan-proper (currently 50). Should they be allowed to donate? Maybe not, if it could be used to game wars. Should they be allowed to receive donations? Yes, definitely able to receive, because that's how they will transition back into being active.

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You want to have a group of members who are just there to chat and receive (not give) donations? How would this encourage semi-active to inactive players to transition back into being active more than the threat of getting kicked? This system you are proposing already exists. Clans are welcome to keep inactives on the roster, but when it comes to clan wars, you need to deal with the lack of participation, or kick/invite. If this is too much trouble, you are a weak clan and deserve to lose.

Terrible idea.

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Originally Posted by Kruzkal

Does it come with nanny to tell you what a good boy you've been, and reads you bedtime stories?

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No, its just an inactive / opt-out of clan ware setting per player.

It means that nice friendly people can enjoy clan wars too.

It has no downside for purist fully-competitive win-or-be-kicked clans.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood

We had several low level members from our clan start a farming/feeder clan after they agreed they were not ready for 24/7 war. It has been many months, and the farming/feeder that started with four or five members now has 25-30. They war once a week and members can jump to the main clan to observe or fight a war or two whenever they want. We have a messaging app and message board that allows us to keep in touch with the farming/feeder, and everyone's happy.

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That's not an inactive list, but two separate groups with permanent different preferences for war frequency. It doesn't speak to the issue here.

The need to use an external app to keep everyone happy speaks to something lacking in the game.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood

Absolutely not. Why should "inactive" members be made to feel that they're part of the clan? You either participate, or you don't. Who wants to have guys on the roster who just pop in to chat from time to time? I certainly don't.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood

You want to have a group of members who are just there to chat and receive (not give) donations? How would this encourage semi-active to inactive players to transition back into being active more than the threat of getting kicked? This system you are proposing already exists. Clans are welcome to keep inactives on the roster, but when it comes to clan wars, you need to deal with the lack of participation, or kick/invite. If this is too much trouble, you are a weak clan and deserve to lose.

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When an inactive joins the chat, or requests troops, they can so easily be asked to rejoin the actives in ordinary clan chat.

The downsides of kick/warsearch/invite are clear. That it works for you doesn't mean it works for everyone. The feature requested does not exist, an ugly workaround exists.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood

Terrible idea.

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All you've asserted is that you don't need it, but here you assert terror. What do you fear? What is the downside for you and your clan if I could "opt-out" my holidaying family friends instead of kicking them?

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Originally Posted by George1971

No, its just an inactive / opt-out of clan ware setting per player.

It means that nice friendly people can enjoy clan wars too.

It has no downside for purist fully-competitive win-or-be-kicked clans.

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Enjoy the war by not participating. Genius.

War participation will plummet, total pool of players in wars reduced, there is no incentive for comfortable leeches to input to war, as a result the whole mismatch situation will get worse...

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Originally Posted by Kruzkal

Enjoy the war by not participating. Genius.

War participation will plummet, total pool of players in wars reduced, there is no incentive for comfortable leeches to input to war, as a result the whole mismatch situation will get worse...

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The actives enjoy the war way better if their unavailable friends are not dead weight.

War participation will plummet? Do you think it is good for the can or good for the game to have a proportion of players participating in wars only because they are obliged? An inactive setting is a gentler way to get them out of clan wars, meaning that everyone left really wants to be there. Making inactive is less offensive than outright kicking, and doesn't clear the donation stats.

Comfortable leeches? No one wants them. Maybe allowing them to receive troops is not a good idea. Maybe after 1-4 weeks in the inactive list, they get auto-kicked?

I don't agree that there is a clan war mismatch problem. Whenever my clan mostly attacks, and mostly follows reasonable strategies, such as following the recommended target prompt, we win.

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Originally Posted by George1971

The actives enjoy the war way better if their unavailable friends are not dead weight.

War participation will plummet? Do you think it is good for the can or good for the game to have a proportion of players participating in wars only because they are obliged? An inactive setting is a gentler way to get them out of clan wars, meaning that everyone left really wants to be there. Making inactive is less offensive than outright kicking, and doesn't clear the donation stats.

Comfortable leeches? No one wants them. Maybe allowing them to receive troops is not a good idea. Maybe after 1-4 weeks in the inactive list, they get auto-kicked?

I don't agree that there is a clan war mismatch problem. Whenever my clan mostly attacks, and mostly follows reasonable strategies, such as following the recommended target prompt, we win.

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This is why we have an in house opt out system. Players who have opted out or do not meet the minimal requirements for war reinvited are booted, the war button is pressed, they are reinvited.

Is your clan that petty that you care about the donation stats that much? You can clearly see there is a NEW next to the player name. Do you not know your clan? Who is contributing, who is not? Do you not notice donation stats on a daily basis? Besides, what you are really interested in is the ratio of donations which can be seen as soon as your member start to donate anyway.

Nobody is offended to be booted. They are reinvited and reinstated within seconds. You have making an issue out of an non-issue and fixing a problem that can be effectively dealt with within the system already.

Now you are complicating things with auto boot... You are enforcing an arbitrary length of non-participation out of nowhere and making it a rule for everyone else. This is far worse than allowing clan Leaders to determine who to boot at their own whim, which the current system is perfectly capable of.

Clan war mismatch happens when there are no clans searching for war within the same period as your clan that is evenly matched. If Supercell officially implements an opt out system, the participation will suddenly plummet. Smaller pool, fewer clans searching for war at any given time, increased mismatches. Not exactly rocket science...

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood

Why don't they attack? Why do you let them stay if they are hurting the team? Should be easy enough to kick/reinvite if you insist on keeping unreliable members on the team.

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Interesting, you left out the part of what he mentions that would give you a hint at the answer to your response questions..


Everyone in his clan knows each other in real life. I think it safe to say they're all friends or otherwise friendly acquaintances, and perhaps some of them enjoy the game just enough to play a little and want to be in the clan with their 20ish other real life buddies but perhaps their work or school schedules prioritize more of their time, making them less able to be active and participate as other members can. Perhaps a few of them enjoy being a part of the clan but otherwise simply don't take the game very seriously and being active and participating in the wars just isn't something they care to make sure they do consistently, but don't forget, these still are real life friends who one cares about and they're perfectly fine with them being in the clan if they want to, they just can't force them to play more or participate more.

I too have real life friends who I've been gaming with for years and they're great, they've picked up the game really quickly and are great assets to my clan. I also have some real life friends that enjoy playing video games, but to a much lesser degree. They don't allow themselves to get as involved but they do enjoy playing to a certain extent, they are very good friends that I certainly am happy to have be a part of my clan. Camaraderie.

An opt out option/feature is a smoother way to keep your community, camaraderie, your clan together at all times, with the option to opt out players who for whatever reason, aren't or won't be war ready.

Quite frankly, I'm surprised that I'm reading any level of opposition to the idea. It seems a no brainer that a feature like this could and potentially would help every single player (certainly once they are eligible to even join a clan and then participate in war).

Many have given reasons why they don't think a opt in/out option is needed for their clan, but has anyone come up for a reason to NOT add this to the game? Any downside? I cannot think of any. We kick and invite so nothing will change for us other than it will be less of a pain in the rear.