Can we make healers viable for high lvl play?

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

Healers giants should include more than just giants. But when you try to include wizards, valks, ect. You get her going rogue, Time is a totally different issue which I do not agree is a problem.

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Of course healer-giant includes more than Giants, but to avoid going rogue you hold back the other troops a bit, and thus time is immediately a critical factor. At TH 6, with less buildings to destroy, you can hold back other troops safely, at higher levels there is less time to play with.

Healers are are great for slow attacks, time is the main issue.

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Originally Posted by George1971

Of course healer-giant includes more than Giants, but to avoid going rogue you hold back the other troops a bit, and thus time is immediately a critical factor. At TH 6, with less buildings to destroy, you can hold back other troops safely, at higher levels there is less time to play with.

Healers are are great for slow attacks, time is the main issue.

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See thats a problem. You shouldn't have to hold anything back. Healers should be good for all kinds of attacks, she actually works amazing with valks, when she heals valks. hence why im suggesting a way to centralize her more, still doing group heals, but in a more effective manner. All troops should be viable for all kinds of game play.

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

See thats a problem. You shouldn't have to hold anything back. Healers should be good for all kinds of attacks, she actually works amazing with valks, when she heals valks. hence why im suggesting a way to centralize her more, still doing group heals, but in a more effective manner. All troops should be viable for all kinds of game play.

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No, timing is important.

At TH3, you learn to send in the barbarians before the archers.

Later, you learn to wait for the giants to get close to the wall before sending in the wall breakers.

You have to wait for the healer-giant group to penetrate before throwing in barchers.

if you send in the pekka before breaking walls, it will wander around the outside.

The problem with healer-giants is they do so little damage. Maybe I should give healers-King, or healer-pekka a go?

Yes, i hate how they will heal my archers and let the giants die

Not quite sure if they'll be better or worse. I wouldn't be quite too sure how it would affect gameplay until we saw it implemented

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

Glad I could be your first topic to post in :o Which group a healer decides to heal is usually random and not strategic. Now sometimes you can plan it out and watch the healer work as intended but other times she'll stray entirely from your great planning and just go rogue. This suggestion isn't an over the top change, it merely makes the healer do what she's suppose to do, Heal!

We have tanks that do their job, we have effective DPS, now we just need a better heals (Tauren Druid for life here ;)) All this idea is suggesting is that the heal centralizes herself, being more effective in group heals while still allowing for strategic placement as troops do spread out alot in a raid and you still have to account and plan for this.

I'm all for making the AI work for me (Valk user here) and not making the AI do the work. But it's just silly how the healer currently works. I want to use healers in more than just 1 strategy, and this change would certainly help to broaden up what she can be used for. This wouldn't dumb down the game, it would simply encourage her use in higher level gameplay.

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Point understood. With your elaboration, I'm a bit more open to the idea and agree that healer could use a slight AI tweak, but I really think the need for staggered deployment to prevent drifting is a good thing. Do you have any suggestion for how they could implement your feature, yet preserve the need for skillful deployment technique?

Also, do you have any healer-valk raid vids? I'm also a big valk user (GoWiVa is my main TH9 ground attack), but haven't used them with healers.