TH8 vs TH8 - what are best strategies?

Our clan has seen a bit of transition lately with several TH7 going to TH8, and a higher number of TH10 and especially TH9 than before. But we have also suffered 4 defeats in last 5 wars, 2 of them pretty close defeats. This has been especially surprising because it comes in the wake of 12 continuous war wins before that, many of them close ones.

The biggest problem I am seeing is the inablity of most TH8 people to 3 star TH8 bases that are max or close to max.

What are the best strategies for actacking TH8 as another TH8? I am asking because there has been some debate regarding this in the clan recently. I always thought that lvl 3 Dragons (with some loons or hogs if need be), lvl 4 Hogs and GoWiPe with lvl 3 Pekka were the most powerful attacks. Are they capable of reliably 3 starring other well designed TH8 bases or will we have to accept some 3 stars and rest 2?

Also, what Giant Wizard? I think it will be throughly underpowered but maybe I am wrong? What about loons+minions? Do they work at TH8?

I could use some suggestions here. We do 50vs50 or 45vs45 wars usually.

28 lvl 4 hogs 3 lvl 3 dragons and 3 lvl 5 healing spells can three star any the 8 base oh and 1 lvl 3 dragon in cc

It seems no one wants to check out this thread because I gave it a stupid title. It doesn't represent what the thread is about.

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Originally Posted by avillus

28 lvl 4 hogs 3 lvl 3 dragons and 3 lvl 5 healing spells can three star any the 8 base oh and 1 lvl 3 dragon in cc

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Thanks for replying, but won't the dragons get eaten by CC wizards if you don't have any archers etc to divert their attention?

I have generally preferred to take wizards to clean up after the hogs, but if they get unlucky with a bomb, it can make 3 stars impossible unless a good number of hogs survived.

Well,i've been using Mass Dragon*** + 3x Lightning Spell**** + CC (Max Loon)

Has about 65-75% to 3 starred any TH8

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Originally Posted by Rianthz

Well,i've been using Mass Dragon*** + 3x Lightning Spell**** + CC (Max Loon)

Has about 65-75% to 3 starred any TH8

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Thanks for the reply. I use mass dragons with 3 lightning or 3 rage depending on the base and I have a similar percentage of 3 stars as you.

So mass dragon is still the most reliable strategy at TH8?

Interesting thread. Though it has at least one problem that pops up for me: Personal preference.

I prefer these three armies: (Clanmates use the same, maybe a little bit of different variations and few their own strategies)

GoWiPe
2 Pekkas
2 Golems
12 WB's
12 Wizards
2 Hogs (CC lure. Only if needed!)
8 Archers (CC lure and clean-up team)
1 Pekka in CC
BK
1 Healing spell
2 Rage spells

Mass Hog
30 Hogs
42 Archers
2 Wizards
BK
5 Wizards and 1 Archer in CC
3 Healing spells (sometimes 2 heal and 1 rage, depending on a base)

Mass Dragon
10 Dragons
1 Dragon and 5 Archers in CC
BK
3 Rage spells

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Having three options to war with gives you experience and possibility to save up on something. Plus it is a lot more fun!
I know how to use those three, so I prefer to use them. Though what works against which base and what you are better in than another, is matter of personal preference.

I suggest you to try to find out new strategies as well. Test it out in multiplayer. No, not against farming bases.
Making a army combination is about maths and logic, not too difficult.

Plus your clanmates should go to higher leagues and use armies against maxed th8's outside war as well. Gives experience!

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Originally Posted by arunt

Thanks for the reply. I use mass dragons with 3 lightning or 3 rage depending on the base and I have a similar percentage of 3 stars as you.

So mass dragon is still the most reliable strategy at TH8?

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Dont use lightning spells with drags, its a waste almost all the time.
Gowipe or hogs also work really well, in the end as a th8 hogs have the highest chance of three imo.

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Originally Posted by avillus

28 lvl 4 hogs 3 lvl 3 dragons and 3 lvl 5 healing spells can three star any the 8 base oh and 1 lvl 3 dragon in cc

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Draw out cc with 3 are 4 hogs then kill them with bb king and your war castle. ...we are at war right now we have 3 stared 3 maxed th 8 using this method. ....pop in and watch the replays clan tag #29yvugp

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Originally Posted by avillus

28 lvl 4 hogs 3 lvl 3 dragons and 3 lvl 5 healing spells can three star any the 8 base oh and 1 lvl 3 dragon in cc

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I don't agree. The combination of air and ground like that just isn't the most efficient way to tackle a base. You are now attacked by every defense, and every trap. No th8 in my clan runs that type of attack, but that type of attack is run against us all the time, almost every war. It rarely succeeds.

Our best TH8 has 3'd many max TH8s and its always with a mix of dragons, typically 6-9, and the rest lvl5 balloons with 5 lvl6 balloons in the clan castle. He very rarely lures, he has 450 war hero now, he almost always gets 6 stars per war. All by air, all with the above troop comp, always with 3 lightning, always the balloons are dropped to target the remaining air defenses.

When he gets 2 stars its from what he calls "death by 1000 cuts", because the remaining archer towers and teslas just slowly take out the dragons.

Honestly his success rate is north of 95% at 3 starring TH8s as a TH8. I would bet that his longest streak of continuous 3 stars is 30 or 40 or more. Almost always attacking the 2 strongest TH8s our opponent has.

I cannot recall a single time that our best TH8 got just 1 star, ever, with the dragon/balloon strategy once he started using it. Not a single time did he fail to get the town hall against any TH8...