Lack of data on loot

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Originally Posted by LukeNQ

This could be partially true to an extent. However the loot apocalypse that is often referred to on here is in no way in Supercells best interest. Far from it honestly. Additionally a larger portion of any "whales" in any mobile game are most likely Day1 spenders. And any changes to gameplay are hardly going to deter them. What i am suggesting that IT IS POSSIBLE that a lot of people make embellishments regarding how bad they have it.

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It's probably due to comparing old loot when it definitely was better. When I was pushing to master the first time months ago, I got distracted by lots of full storages and some abandoned bases. I tried casually pushing as high as I could recently and it is noticeably drier in crystal II/I since there was hardly any distraction for pushing. Anyways, I was talking about possible company actions rather then subjective player opinions in the previous post

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Originally Posted by LukeNQ

Just so we're on the same page. At what point in my post did I offend you to the point that you had to sling insults at me. I looked again and couldn't find it. Must be my old age getting to me.

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Sounds like a whine. This isn't pertinent to the issue at all. It's their game. They have a duty to the shareholders. Why wouldn't they want to maximize profits? I'm not complaining about the situation. Just telling it like it is. They want people to buy resources. How do they do it? By nerfing loot. The biggest profit is in buying resources. That's all there is to it.

Im currently in crystal2 am a level112 th 10. Monday when I was placed in my league I visited all 50 bases that I was ranked amoung. In that group 28 had town halls outside of walls and 13 had maxed collecters outside the walls. I then visited standard bases (nonwar) of the clan we were currently at war with (45 bases). 31 th outside walls and 11 maxed resource collectors outside walls. Why did I check them? It was because while trying to raid I spent 241,000 gold trying to find a base with more than 100,000 of each resource all the while not finding a single accessible outside th. This is data. How can a sample of 95 bases have 59 (60 including me) outside th and 25 max collectors while an attack search generate zero outside th and 1 100k of each resource in 241. Im sure its because there are millions accounts, right?

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Originally Posted by daboy

sounds like a whine. This isn't pertinent to the issue at all.

And calling me an imbecile was? Just sayin

it's their game. They have a duty to the shareholders. Why wouldn't they want to maximize profits? I'm not complaining about the situation. Just telling it like it is. They want people to buy resources. How do they do it? By nerfing loot. The biggest profit is in buying resources. That's all there is to it.

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again, all im suggesting is that its not entirely as bad as everyone says it is. Yes. I have good days and bad. And some people may be incredibly unlucky regularly. But its laughable to imply that every forum member that says loots ok is wrong. The i'm right/ your wrong mentality is dangerous. There is always two sides to a coin.

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Originally Posted by LukeNQ

again, all im suggesting is that its not entirely as bad as everyone says it is. Yes. I have good days and bad. And some people may be incredibly unlucky regularly. But its laughable to imply that every forum member that says loots ok is wrong. The i'm right/ your wrong mentality is dangerous. There is always two sides to a coin.

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blah blah. Like i said in the loot thread, implicitly acknowledging the subjectivity of "good" vs "bad." There is no question that there is far less loot than there was previously. It's not a matter of opinion. Idiots insisting that loot is still "good" miss the point. It's all relative. Previously it was absolutely insane to buy resources straight-up instead of boosting barracks and spells to farm loot. They fixed that. Good for them. Bad for us (farmers). They will do absolutely everything they can to make people buy resources, and now it's practically impossible to progress past th9 without doing so. Grats sc.

LukeNQ

First it's a waste of time to argue with children who has no justification in their points and has to resort to name calling out of frustration. I understand that the less mature people will come to vent about their frustration. Of course their limited exposure to the game is representative of the 100's of thousands of players.

You do understand that a few people saying either loot is good or bad isn't going to present any data to either the user community nor the developers. However there isn't any way for users to get a more complete picture.

Warasin

I understand that. Just trying to explain that there is more than one option/opinion. But I agree it's often futile. I appreciate the positive comments though. At least a few of us can have a constructive dialogue. ��

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Originally Posted by Warasin

LukeNQ

First it's a waste of time to argue with children who has no justification in their points and has to resort to name calling out of frustration. I understand that the less mature people will come to vent about their frustration. Of course their limited exposure to the game is representative of the 100's of thousands of players.

You do understand that a few people saying either loot is good or bad isn't going to present any data to either the user community nor the developers. However there isn't any way for users to get a more complete picture.

Warasin

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This forum is English only. Please try again with verb agreement and coherence.

If you think about it, the game itself is flawed. When we BARCH and boost, we fire off say 10 attacks per hour. Assume we give half the players 12 hour shields. That means in one two hour boost, I've shielded 10 players on average for 12 hours. Thus if I boost once a day, I take 5 'days' worth of bases off the grid.

Now SC has very intentionally taken away inactive bases, leaving only 'active' players. I don't know what they consider active, because for every one "single boost per day" player, you need 5 players on average to be targets. It only makes sense that there would be pratically no unshielded bases left to attack.

And just to stress that previous point, SC very much intentionally turned off the loot with their "inactive base" policy. For all I know, they tweak it every day and adjust it for optimal gem purchase. So to say it's not their fault would be too generous in my opinion.

Again you ATTACK people because of their opinion. Seems totally reasonable. I no longer wonder why these threads get continuously closed