I'm a townhall 9 with maxed defenses and troops. My heros are 17. I just finished lvl 9 walls and I am debating on doing lvl 10 walls and work on heros more or going to townhall 10.
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I'm a townhall 9 with maxed defenses and troops. My heros are 17. I just finished lvl 9 walls and I am debating on doing lvl 10 walls and work on heros more or going to townhall 10.
WTH, How u farm that much to make 250 piece of Lvl 9 its so hard xD
My walls still Lvl 7 can you tell me your strategy how u farm !!
I'm TH10 and I don't think Walls worth all that effort just go to TH10 :)
I would grind out the walls, you will have to do them eventually, might as well do me while it's easier.
Haha a lot of barching at gold 1-2Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mooDi
set a goal. in the long run lvl 10 walls are the best. You seem to farm well with lvl 17 heroes and legos. Keep going. Get to lvl 20 heroes and get some walls done and see if having no builders for that amount of time makes the game stale for you. And you should stay if you "need" to farm zaps when you max th10. Post-max defense farming isn't fun/enjoyable for everyone.
th10 makes getting a loot a little tougher. 20 % taken off th10s, 50% of of th8s (you will be happy to hit them for 100k is how tough loot gets sometimes).
In th9 I could farm 8 mill in a day if needed or in 2 days and my gold/elixer goes up the same. Now I do next more and by the time my elixer maxes my gold is easily under 7 million. It has been at 6 million by the time my elixer reaches 8 million. Kind of a big deal. 2 million difference. Which would add up to DAYS of more farming by moving up th10 in the long run.
Do walls, you have to do them at some point, might as well do them while you have your best loot available
WALLS
Challenge yourself ....where others have upgraded to the next level... Build those gorgeous pretty pointless walls.
- dinner
Thanks for your response. Loot is probally the biggest thing holding be back. I hear townhall 10 loot is bad from everyone but I here some farm with bar at mastersQuote:
Originally Posted by SirSaltySack
Really when loot is "on" (dead bases) I find it practically just as easy to farm in th10. I farm c3 dead base barching mostly. When loot is dead nexting takes a toll on gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apocalyptic115
I know masters has a great loot bonus and more plentiful DE. You have to finesse a lot more 50% fully armed bases from what I read on forums and asked in clan chat for barching. It works for people who like doing that, but some farmers live off dead base farming or easy storage raids (like me)
Legos are already "aesthetically" pleasing for a TH9, Lavas are just too tedious to do and a sign that you overstayed in TH9 for far too long XD
Lavas & above for me is a long term goal, so I better "enjoy" now the new TH level before I ran out of interest in the game :cool:
Fuark I'm in the same situation. 4 Legos left (will do tomorrow), max base (not traps), queen almost 18, king 20. I farm gold I - crystal III and a lot of my raids are 250k/ea collector raids off th8s. Since the penalty goes to 50% loot will get a lot harder for my strategy. I'm not necessarily bored of farming walls, but thinking about lavas taking 3x longer isn't too appealing. I sort of want to go on to a new stage of the game but idk. I will probably farm lavas for a bit and see.
I would at least finish the heroes off and see how many walls you can do in between that.
Two weeks ago I was in same situation. Then took the decision to stay and max my walls and get my heroes as high as I can based on the time I need to finish walls lvl10. No 25% of walls are done. Making 4 - 6 walls per day. After finishing I will get to th10 with no worries about walls as my walls will be pretty good compared to most of th10. This needs patience, if you have it stay and do it now so you can focus on new stuff in th10
If your troops and defenses are maxed, then I suggest you go ahead and move up. Adding the new defenses (especially infernos) is going to help far more with defense than another level in walls. Plus, you're just wasting time when you could be training troops. Those take months to do without gemming, so moving to TH10 is going to help you defend your base and attack other bases with stronger troops, another spell capacity, more troop capacity, and FREEZE spells.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apocalyptic115
Also, I never saw much difference in loot. Just move up into crystal. I like to sit in Crystal 1. The higher loot bonus offsets some of the diminished returns from lower TH, but you'll see mostly TH10 and 9. TH10 is the same loot as before and TH9 is only -10%. You barely notice. Plus, there will be far more DE available to continue with your heroes. I've done about 120K DE in 6 days, and I only do about 10-15 attacks a day.
That's my opinion.
-Kemanorel
Co-leader of "Eternal Tech."
TH10 L.117
584 GG, 515 EE, 2.2 HH
13/250 Legos
Trophy Record: 3201
Im almost done grinding lavas... DO IT! So worth it :) Wall worry free in TH10
Totally agree with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by FaReKi
Haha, we have same number of lavas :p
Funny how ppl with high walls are telling you to get lavas walls while ppl who didnt do walls are telling you otherwise. Legos are more than good enough as a TH10.
With that said....i say get dem lava walls! :cool:����
Edit: you don't see too many th9s with max walls or (almost) max heroes...if you think you will be playing this game for awhile, what's the hurry.
Well, I have 140 lavas 110 Legos and lvl 18/19 heroes, and im staying. You're definitely ahead of where I was hero wise when I started lavas, so it won't be too bad. I'd say finish up your heroes, keep EM going on 3.5 day cycles nonstop, while dumping g&e into walls. Once your heroes are done, see where you stand and go from there.
The walls really aren't that difficult if you're a good farmer (which you seem to be). The big thing is balancing g/e/de to keep steady progress on heroes and walls humming along. Once you figure that out, you'll be golden.
Highly recommend pushing to masters and starting both heroes, loading up your de tank, and going down to mid crystal to get some g/e. Repeat that process every time you get low on de.
Those lava walls that Hogs jump over and Loons fly over? :rolleyes:
It is a tough grind to get a full set of lavas at TH9.
As a TH10 who completed 90 odd lavas before TH10 I will admit gold is a bit harder to get here; but DE is easier to get. Extra drill and more troops to break those bases with 3k storages in the guts.
Do you want max heroes too? You will probably achieve that side of things faster at TH10.
And if you ask me heroes are far more valuable than walls.
But ultimately, keep doing whatever keeps the game fun. If the lava grind starts to bore you go to TH10 before you start hating the game.
Well i went to town hall 10 with level 7 walls! I know, what a noob! :rolleyes: But i managed to max all my defence, and now I'm on lavas, took about 11 months. So it's not all bad upgrading early.
On my second account i plan to spend more time on walls at th9, already on Legos but not sure how many lavas i will do.
my advice to you would be to start doing your lavas and when u are getting really bored upgrade. Even with half lava you will be in a good position compared to many th10, and there seems little point in getting sick of the game because of walls and quitting. Only you know how you feel. :)
Although i havent updated it for a while;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzilla86
Max your walls and heroes, it will make your life much easier as a new TH10, better protection for your resources and stronger in terms of attacking for harder loots.
Hi, I would suggest to max out heroes to something over lvl20. More is of course better, however it takes forever. And there us much more dark elixir when you reach master League.
In fact, walls are good agains ground attacks, you will be really angry, after you find out, that most od the attacks commig to you are going with air troops.
Farming in th10 is possible in gold, but is much more fun to farm in master. Of course, you have to count that each army will be build in hour without spells.
By the way, I have nearly maxed out TH10.
Th10:cool:
I would pick walls.. That just means like 750 million or so to farm.. If you go to th10 you will get 750 + zaps and def etc. Plus it will get harder. So why not get that 750 off the table in a much easier way while you still can? :)
Easily the hardest hardest decision in COC. Everyone has their own opinion about this. I'm voting for walls and heroes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apocalyptic115
By far my biggest regret in this game is not concentrating on my heroes earlier. I stayed at TH9 and did lavas in about 3 months, and most of that time my builders were sleeping on their beach vacation. All those weeks when i could have got the heroes to max for TH9 whist i wasnt having to decide how best to use my builders.
Im a TH10 now, defences etc are maxed, getting there with my zaps, but STILL im working on heroes! Queen just got to max a couple of weeks ago, now its kingy's turn.
My advice for what its worth, is max out those heroes to 30, do walls with any gold you accumulate along the way, and then see how you feel when you are done with the royals.
17 level 10 atm. I am getting my wall to level 10 before th10 so as my heroes and lab.
the reason for that is I am in school -> busy.
walls and especially heroes! queen prioriy!
I am at the same position as you...im grinding the walls out. and good thing is, bc we are both maxed, research included at lab, we can use all resources (except DE) for walls...also, remember how much of a bottom feeder we all were when we first got to TH9. it will be even more so at TH10. having those pimpin walls will help you, and me, not be so low when we first arrive at the final TH10.
I am TH10, my walls are only lvl8, and I am currently at 3544 trophies...walls are not that important, and I plan on continuing with mine once all my weapons are maxed.
Choose what you want, either choice is fine.
This is a decision I've been thinking about for quite some time being as I'm in the same category(th9, max def and troops). However, I'm just finishing up skull walls... Haha I know, behind the curve here. I've basically made the decision (for now) to continue humming along as th9. Farming Legos and raising my heros up till Legos are finished(currently bk10, aq13). So I still have a long time to think on this decision still. My biggest proponent to upgrade to 10 would be the stronger troops and capacity to take on stronger opponents in the war and donate higher troops for the war effort. War is the only thing that keeps me playing as I don't really see the point of doing anything if you don't have some end goal I.e. do better in the war, take on tougher opponents etc. For now, I've decided to grind it out but every war, I get tempted to upgrade for the better of the clan not just my own base progress.
Go to TH10, get the big defs and the big troops.
lavas are overkill at TH9
I would upgrade your heroes and grind at the walls awhile your doing it, get your heroes at least to 20
Definitely upgrade your walls.
I chose to max walls and heroes before jumping to TH10, and I'd recommend every other TH9 to do the same...you'll never regret it.
Really depends what kind of player you are !
If you don't mind doing the same thing again and again and again then do walls.
I personnaly choose to up my TH each time i had nothing i found usefull to upgrade in the Labo. What i hate th most is having mor than one builder inactive.
I've done almost everything with elixir, so my gold goes in building, my DE in heroes and Troop upgrades and my Elixir goes in walls (slowly but constantly progressing).
^ This. Rushing is like settling for a woman who is a 6 when you can have a 9 or above.Quote:
Originally Posted by junyab
Go grind those lava walls and also upgrade your heroes to at least lvl 20 or even maxing it if I were you :)
I'd go to TH10, I can't stand having my lab idle.
Stay at TH9... You'll end up skipping hundreds of times more per day at TH10 than you do now. Sounds extra frustrating to me lol
Plus I'm sure you want to do the lavas eventually, might as well complete them now.
Edit: I find it comical that everyone with low level walls are telling you to move on to TH10, where as everyone with decent walls are telling you to stay. That's telling you something OP. Of course you can do them at TH10, but it'll take much longer and will require much more work.
Wow that was a very straightforward approach... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatLach
Walls Are good - th10 sucks
For what it's worth, I Haven't heard many people in your position that went to 10 and regretted it.
I'm going to stay at TH9 until my heroes are at least 25/25, and the core of my war base is comprised of lava walls. I'd rather be a big fish TH9 than a little fish TH10. I don't want to regret taking on the challenge of maxing out at TH9 someday, so I'll probably go all the way.
Except I'm not doing the same thing again and again and again, as I'm in a war clan, and three starring opponents is the focus, not farming.Quote:
Originally Posted by pololo
There is a member of my clan that went to TH10 very prematurely, and he fluctuated between urging others to do the same, and telling us how difficult it is for him to level out his defenses, upgrade his heroes, etc. I think the people that jump to TH10 "early" are probably more miserable than they let on, and just want company!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dpino
The OP has maxed defenses, Legos, and decently leveled heroes, he wouldn't be a premie.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyBGood
I went to TH10 with maxed defences, full lego walls and heroes in the late teens. I had a tough time deciding what route to go before upgrading, but I decided it would be better (more enjoyable) for me to move up and start playing with all the new toys.
Everyone gets all worked up for the Inferno Towers but what finally convinced me to move to TH10 was the freeze spell.
Yes the loot at TH10 is nowhere near as good as it was at TH9, that part is pretty much undeniable, but the loot at TH10 is not nearly as bad as some here would have you believe.
If I had stayed to finish walls and heroes at TH9 I would not have all my defences maxed (last 2 upgrades in progress atm) and would not have all the fancy TH10 troops to use for war. Sure my heroes would be overall higher level and so would my walls but I have no regrets about the way I played it.
At the end of the day you need to do what is right for you OP. After all it is just a game so whatever gives you the most enjoyment for your time is going to be your smartest move at this point.
True; the OP is nothing like the member of my clan that rushed to TH10. Still, I think it's difficult for people that move on to TH10 without maxing out at TH9 to admit that they regret it, as they don't want to admit it to themselves. The OP should do whatever he thinks will keep the game most interesting for him, so long as he's sure he won't always wonder what it would have been like to be a truly maxed TH9!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dpino
Im th9 with LVL 27 queen and 22 BK, about 85 lvl 10 walls.. Before th10 i said I'll get 100-125 Lvl 10s then go, hopefully a lvl 25 BK too
What do you think we're telling you? We're telling you from experience that walls don't matter that much. I'm TH10 working on legos, but my defenses are almost maxed. I just need 1 level in a few cannons and mortars, 1 level in AD, and 2 levels in AT. You think people are looking at my base saying, "Look at those weak walls. I'm attacking him!"?Quote:
Originally Posted by itsclif
I made Champion using 240 L6 archers (it was before the update), L15 heroes, and 5 lightning spells. You know what made me laugh? Seeing bases with weak defenses and high level walls and 50%ing them without needing heroes or spells because I could just shoot over the walls and the defenses were too weak to effectively take out archers.
Funny thing is also that the people that moved up are speaking from experience. People claiming they don't regret staying at TH9 don't know if they would have regretted going to TH10. The only thing we can say for sure is that people who moved up, as long as they weren't hugely premie, don't regret it.
If walls and heroes are your only things to upgrade, you are wasting your time sitting at TH9 when you could be putting your lab and builders to good use.
Haaaaahahaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Huge♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Couldn't resist laughing at that. I'm in the same situation OP, I want strong heroes, so I'm going to stay at 9 as long as I can resist the temptation to go to 10.
Its pretty funny how almost all the people who say walls aren't worth it and move to th10 are people who are unable to farm them...... Lol
Walls really really matter. If ground troops have to break through a lavas 5500 HP to get to an xbow or something hitting them it essentially means your xbow has an extra 5500 HP. Now if there was an option to upgrade that xbow so that it would sometimes randomly have an extra 5500 HP everyone would be so on board cause they're infatuated with towers and say its a great deal but walls arent....
Anyways hogs can and air can both be mitigated to a large degree with base design so they aren't the reason to make a decision based on. Do you war? If you want to be in a serious war clan walls are more important than defense since defenses just give you harder matchups but walls are what stop the 2-3 stars from happening.
In the end I'd say grind out half your lavas or at least 100 before you move up.
Thats quite an assumption you make there. I did full legos at TH9, at TH10 I focused first on my defenses, now they are all maxed I am doing my lavas as a TH10. If I am able to grind out lavas as a TH10 I certainly could have done it at TH9.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arom
Games are meant to be fun. Anybody considering making the move to TH10 should frame the decision within the context of what will be more fun for them in the long run. Personally I was getting bored after doing my legos so decided to move on, I am now maxed D, almost maxed Lab, and I have absolutely no regrets about going to TH10 when I did.
Are you into clan wars? If yes, then do walls and heroes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apocalyptic115
Otherwise,
- Do you think loot will improve anytime soon?
- What league will you be spending most of your time?
- Will your TH be in or out?
I put my TH back outside about a month ago, and every attacker except one has had a barch army. (That includes the last month I spent in C1.) Don't need legos or lavas to stop barch ;)
I have attacked someone with Lego's and compared to level 7 walls it took forever for my troops to break through. Pretty well worth it IMO. I also think walls are pretty intimating and may make more people "next" you while searching lol;)
Agreed. Unless the attacker has loons, hogs, or a jump spell in their 5th spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by oknelok
In my clan, almost all our TH10s are bringing a jump spell to war... a couple wall breakers to bust through the outer wall and then a jump spell to funnel the troops to the core :)
I assume you often go into war without bringing your last spell? Because your basically implying that the last spell is not worth much. Making an attacker need to remove what could have been an additional freeze or rage spell is a huge deal and will drastically lower their chance of a 2-3 star. Don't see too many attackers on a well designed base end up getting that 100% with an unused spell in their arsenal stillQuote:
Originally Posted by LordHalestorm
Comment wasn't into imply all of you I know some can obviously farm enough yo do walls but the majority I feel it holds true off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiggy82
You been able to progress well with your walls at th10? What league you farming in and how many attacks per season and walls would you say you can do? Serious question not trolling or nothing just don't get too much feedback from capable farmers at th10 on here and would like some. I'm honestly considering going up in a month or so but am slightly concerned it will slow down my walls a lot.
I am a TH 9 too, i have 80 lvl 10 walls and rest lvl 9, my heroes at both at 20, maxed defenses and all traps, i am farming all lvl 10 walls and taking my heroes to max 30 or watever i can get them, but definitely getting all lvl 10 walls, its way more easier to farm gold at TH9, than TH 10, plus after u can use elixir it has become way easier. My suggestions farm lvl 10 walls, easier at TH9, than Th10. ☺😉
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Originally Posted by Arom
What are you talking about? It's not a matter of not being able to farm them. It's a matter of not wasting time with idle builders and laboratory just so it takes one more wallbreaker or one more hit from a raged pekka to break through. (And face it, that's what you're dealing with in war.)
Plus, it doesn't matter if you can't be 3 starred if you can't even get a star because your troops are too weak to even deal with infernos. Someone with maxed TH10 defenses and legos, skulls, or even purples is gonna do better than a maxed TH9 in both defense and attacking in war.
-Kemanorel
Co-leader of "Eternal Tech."
TH10 L.117
584 GG, 515 EE, 2.2 HH
13/250 Legos
Trophy Record: 3201
Clasher since Dec. 2013
I saw nearly no difference in getting gold at TH10 than at TH9 except with TH8 and below, which I rarely see in Crystal I, so are you speaking from experience from a second base you have that's at TH10, or are you just making an assumption with no experience behind it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mann23
Everyone knows you farm walls because of the looks.. and honestly, your base will look so ugly without lavas. Just do them.
I suggest you do the lava walls. In the long run, it'll pay off. It can be very effectve during clan wars also, base on my experience. Because when you're at Th 10, you wont find the time or the loot to upgrde them, as you're busy upgrding your defenses first. I've managed to get 242 lava wallls already, only 8 more legos to go :)