All level 7!!!

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Originally Posted by itsclif

Once again, you're missing the point. Like previously mentioned, just because you don't care about something, doesn't mean that others don't. Everyone's opinion matters, not just yours. That's truly an elitist attitude you're fostering.m

Another example: A thread about a TH7 dark elixir farming guide. Or an ideal th7 clan wars composition. As a th9, I couldn't care less about such a thread. However, other community members who are TH7 or approaching might appreciate such a thread. It doesn't matter if it doesn't apply to me or only affects the minority of the community. If certain people appreciate it, then the thread wasn't a waste.

Btw, yes I care more abut the woman who gave me birth and raised me than a girl who's not even with my wife yet. I'm sure she would understand that.

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I’m not missing your point at all. Your point is quite clearly that just because I don’t care about you finishing legos doesn’t mean that others also don’t care. You’ve said it a few times and I read it perfectly well the first time. There is of course no logical floor in this statement, but it’s not really that relevant to the point I made.

The question is, as a matter of fact, does the average forumer care about yet another person finishing legos? In my view they do not. There’s nothing elitist about holding this view. You mentioned the 4 page thread being evidence that people do care. A few throw away comments on a forum with this many members is actually more supportive of the position that, on the whole, they aren’t really that interested.

Besides you haven’t answered my question, Deep down do you really believe that the average forumer cares about you finishing legos? Honestly? On the whole, a group that don't know you, really cares about legos at a time when people have had fully maxed bases for months? Legos simply aren't that news worthy anymore.

So another question – where does it end? Should everyone that achieves anything make a thread? I recently finished my def towers. Is that thread worthy? How about my big bombs? I finished those yesterday. Is that thread worthy? I would say no. The forum would be an awful place if every other thread in general was about each other’s minor achievements. From my perspective, my achievements are personal, they are not record breaking on any scale and I don’t have a high enough opinion of myself to think my achievements are worth a thread. But according to you I have an elitist attitude. You misjudge me badly.

You can’t compare a TH7 De farming guide with an “I finished legos” thread. One is very clearly offering something of value to the community, the other is just a chasing recognition and self gratification. Besides as a TH9, you can offer something to such a guide. “this worked for me” or “I found xyz more efficient” are all worthwhile contributions. You can of course get threads that do both, “I finished legos and this is how I did it” including a comprehensive guide on farming range, troop combo, time spent, this is what I learnt etc. That is of much more value, because it is less about the thread owner and more about the community. I've seen a lot of threads more about the owner than the community recently.

Nice job bro:cool:

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Originally Posted by Kirky

I’m not missing your point at all. Your point is quite clearly that just because I don’t care about you finishing legos doesn’t mean that others also don’t care. You’ve said it a few times and I read it perfectly well the first time. There is of course no logical floor in this statement, but it’s not really that relevant to the point I made.

The question is, as a matter of fact, does the average forumer care about yet another person finishing legos? In my view they do not. There’s nothing elitist about holding this view. You mentioned the 4 page thread being evidence that people do care. A few throw away comments on a forum with this many members is actually more supportive of the position that, on the whole, they aren’t really that interested.

Besides you haven’t answered my question, Deep down do you really believe that the average forumer cares about you finishing legos? Honestly? On the whole, a group that don't know you, really cares about legos at a time when people have had fully maxed bases for months? Legos simply aren't that news worthy anymore.

So another question – where does it end? Should everyone that achieves anything make a thread? I recently finished my def towers. Is that thread worthy? How about my big bombs? I finished those yesterday. Is that thread worthy? I would say no. The forum would be an awful place if every other thread in general was about each other’s minor achievements. From my perspective, my achievements are personal, they are not record breaking on any scale and I don’t have a high enough opinion of myself to think my achievements are worth a thread. But according to you I have an elitist attitude. You misjudge me badly.

You can’t compare a TH7 De farming guide with an “I finished legos” thread. One is very clearly offering something of value to the community, the other is just a chasing recognition and self gratification. Besides as a TH9, you can offer something to such a guide. “this worked for me” or “I found xyz more efficient” are all worthwhile contributions. You can of course get threads that do both, “I finished legos and this is how I did it” including a comprehensive guide on farming range, troop combo, time spent, this is what I learnt etc. That is of much more value, because it is less about the thread owner and more about the community. I've seen a lot of threads more about the owner than the community recently.

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My argument was that not every thread on this forum is supposed to appeal to the community as a whole. You're in essence saying that if it doesn't appeal to the community as a whole, it's not thread worthy. That's certainly not the case.
If a thread appealed to a certain number of people, even if it's just a few, it's thread worthy.

Is anyone tying you down and forcing you to read every thread on this forum? No, of course not. We all have the gift of free will.
If a thread doesn't particularly interest you, then don't click on it. Every thread has a title. You don't have to comment on it. It's honestly not that difficult.

In my particular case, I do care when someone finishes their walls as it motivates me to complete mine. I'm happy for other members when I see that they complete their goals. I want others to succeed at what they're striving for.

That's why I'm having this argument. You're saying it doesn't appeal to you as well as to the community as a whole and therefore is irrelevant. While certain aspects of that may be true, it applies to me and many other members as well and I personally appreciate threads like that.

I guess it seems that my opinion doesn't matter because I might be in the minority, correct?

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Originally Posted by itsclif

My argument was that not every thread on this forum is supposed to appeal to the community as a whole.

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I can't find this argument in the thread. So far as I can see you've been restating that my opinion doesn't imply anyone elses and give irrelevant examples based on a faulty interpretations of what i'm saying.

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Originally Posted by itsclif

You're in essence saying that if it doesn't appeal to the community as a whole, it's not thread worthy. That's certainly not the case.
If a thread appealed to a certain number of people, even if it's just a few, it's thread worthy.

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No, I'm not. You keep trying to tell me what I'm saying, but you don't understand. Allow me to restate it more clearly. I said no one cares about the "finished legos" threads. That is a general statement about what I believe to be the general opinion on these threads. It's not that hard, and I hope it is clear now.

However, my personal view is that people can post what they want within the rules. But a thread needs to offer something to the other members to be worthwhile. If a thread is not worthwhile then actually there is no point in posting it in the first place. Many of these threads essentially only say "hey look at me. I'm great, look what I did", which is purely for self gratification and therefore worthless to the community. Hence in my view we don't really need these and the forum would be an awful place if everyone did this, but if people want to post them well fine. It is a reasonable position to accept something I don't like. As I previously said, adding a farming guide or more details to these threads may make them more worthwhile.

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Originally Posted by itsclif

Is anyone tying you down and forcing you to read every thread on this forum? No, of course not. We all have the gift of free will.
If a thread doesn't particularly interest you, then don't click on it. Every thread has a title. You don't have to comment on it. It's honestly not that difficult.

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This is a non point. What does this have to do with the question of whether people care about these threads?

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Originally Posted by itsclif

In my particular case, I do care when someone finishes their walls as it motivates me to complete mine. I'm happy for other members when I see that they complete their goals. I want others to succeed at what they're striving for.

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Good for you. Maybe that's one person who cares.

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Originally Posted by itsclif

That's why I'm having this argument. You're saying it doesn't appeal to you as well as to the community as a whole and therefore is irrelevant. While certain aspects of that may be true, it applies to me and many other members as well and I personally appreciate threads like that.

I guess it seems that my opinion doesn't matter because I might be in the minority, correct?

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Erm, well no. What I said was no-one cares about the "I finished legos" threads. Look here it is,

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Originally Posted by Kirky

I think he's making light of all the "finished legos" threads we've had recently that no one cares about.

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If it makes you feel good, I'd be happy with the following:

"I think he's making light of all the "finished legos" threads we've had recently that almost no one cares about."

Lol lv7 walls = cheap

Congratulation btw gl on lv8!