Give Clan Leader & CO's. Power to manage defences & players for Wars.

I don't see any mention of altering a player's war base in the OP, not sure where you people are getting that from. It seems "defenses" mentioned are limited to clan castle troops. I like the idea of having co-leaders, or even just the leader herself being able to take care of that. It's a pain to get a hold of 35+ members to dump CC troops when a new join tried to be helpful by putting low-level troops in there. It happens, and that's a good solution to the problem with no downsides I can see. If your clan has a crummy co who abuses his power, war troops being removed are the least of your problems.

I don't care for the idea of allowing members to be hand-picked for war. I can see many conflicts arising from that one and extra difficultly keeping multiples of 5 members. I'm in a war clan though, you stay active and you attack or you're out. It's for the good of the clan. I guess this is something for clans that war casually.

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Originally Posted by haste01

How do you feel about.... if players decided to not war and opt Out from war ? Or leadership picking who goes to war based off of members feedback? Example. Little Bob, says he can't war and little Maggie says the same. So they opt out from war and have a box select option to not war for personal reasons. Thus ensuring loyal members are not affecting war outcomes because of time constraints and wish to remain in the clan. There should also be an alternative to letting leadership position players to select players who want to war versus those who are torn about even wanting to war yet wish to remain in the clan for other purposes such as: friendly players, good donating players etc.

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Supercell has passed judgement on this idea. It's called "CLAN WARS" not "Some of the clan wars, sometimes if they're not too busy to play the game"

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Originally Posted by AxionXD

Supercell has passed judgement on this idea. It's called "CLAN WARS" not "Some of the clan wars, sometimes if they're not too busy to play the game"

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Well, the idea hasn't been ruled out so I don't know if you could say judgement has been passed on it. Can't say I like it much myself.

Too much power for leaders, as a leader of my clan I still say thats to much power for us leaders, as a leader you got to trust your members to do whats right for there base. You cant hand feed your members or else you will never get a powerful clan. Guidance is ok but doing it for them is not.

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Originally Posted by CircusOfFun

Too much power for leaders, as a leader of my clan I still say thats to much power for us leaders, as a leader you got to trust your members to do whats right for there base. You cant hand feed your members or else you will never get a powerful clan. Guidance is ok but doing it for them is not.

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I'm also student teaching... it's called modeling. I do, we do, you do. Sometimes you DO have to handfeed them.

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Originally Posted by AxionXD

Supercell has passed judgement on this idea. It's called "CLAN WARS" not "Some of the clan wars, sometimes if they're not too busy to play the game"

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I think you guys are missing the big picture. I could have done an easy 2 to 3 page write up & explain the Pros & Cons. A history of bad moments when such an idea could have worked to save time, headaches & clan resources.
If your wondering where am I drawing such thoughts from or where this idea has come from. Its from playing the game for 11 months raiding to become a TH10 (80% maxed out) & playing wars from day 1, 2x a week (at best, sometimes we take breaks) & 57 war wins.

I've seen it all, trolls, hoppers, loot snipers, ppl trying to spy during wars, etc. You name it & I am sure you guys have seen this to.

What I am saying is pretty cut and clear to avoid the ♥♥, that trolls and ppl who want to be CO's or elders do stupid stupid stuff in clans. We have got to the point where in my clan this has kind of come to an end. But I am sure new clans area dealing with all kinds of ♥♥♥♥ that those clans don't survive and die out. Or are not fun to be a part of so people leave. Now a days it seems that people want to war... at least that has been my experience more than 50% of the time with people who want to join. If the clan does not back to back war. People leave. Even though "X" player loves the clan organization, they want to war and they want to win. And when things dont go their way they leave & when that happens... its like oh well... at least for my clan it don't matter anymore. We have a good & loyal core and we have all played for a year together if not more ( i was not original leader).

Now so I can keep this short.. And I will be pretty much almost repeating my self. But I think if you can sum up all the good this can do... There is nothing bad that can come from this. Assuming the clans are organized or somewhat organized this is a good option. And for unorganized clans... this will help them even more to put some order when it comes to war organization.

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1. Leaders & Co's. Should be Allowed to remove un wanted troops from castles that are not helping the cause. Which is winning... Why you ask ?
A.) Why accept a lvl 2 dragon when you can easily take a lvl 4. Some people like to help set up defenses. But are actually not helping the cause. They mean well but its not helping. Then you have trolls who will want to give goblins or Wall breakers.
B.) This will cut downtime for people setting up defense and get back to raiding rather than holding onto very high level troops that must be dropped into war castles. And not waiting for that castle owner to get on 15 hours later to remove the unwanted troops.

2. I strongly believe that people should be allowed to have an icon option.. to be in a clan they want to be in for other reasons that are not to war... To OPT out and choose to stay out of wars and yet remain with their friends and at times family. With the assurance they will not hurt their clan members, friends & or family in wars. Do to either lack of time, interest, busy schedule & other reasons not allowing them to participate the way they would want to.
A.) This will not force a leaders hand or CO. To kick a person for inactivity during war time. When set player/member has been active for such a long time and have become semi active for personal reasons.
B.) This will allow a clan to grow with more members and maybe putting an end to Hoppers. Since hoppers have so many reasons for doing it, not enough wars, or to much wars, not enough players that donate, losing a war because players not showing true interest in wars etc & doing only 1 attack...

3. If 2 does not get a pass... then the next option is to give leaders and or CO's Or just leaders. The power to choose what players will go to war... There will be a phase of course... [1st.] The members that want to war can choose to participate. [2nd.] If there are 2 people missing to start a war (example 10 vs 10). The leader can choose who will play in the final 2 spots remaining to successfully start a War Clan Search for a 10 vs 10.

Again there is so much input to this I want to keep adding. but then I will never finish typing. So for now... please guys lets get this done.. if there is a loophole to this action.. think of a fix. But I think this something that needs to be added. For very organized clans it might not be an issue although things happen from time to time this option can not hurt at all.

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Originally Posted by haste01

power should be given to leaders & co's to do the following things. To make the game more fun on the war front.

1. Allow leaders co. To manage defences according to how they see fit. Owner of set clan castle still can do what they want for their troops. That being said those people being the leadership know whats best for the clan & should know what defence will work best for a particular clan members base. This will stop unwanted troops from being donated & can be removed by the leader/co's rather than waiting for the owner of that base to do it..... Who knows when. This will also stop people that are purposely trying to annoy other members by giving bad troops that have no significant use for a war.

2. Allow the leadership to dictate who goes to war & hand pick the people who want to war. You can give members a tab/vote who want to war. Or let leadership pick who goes... Besides they should know who participated 100% of the time in the past.

A. This will fix many things.... On so many levels. It will allow people that want a break from wars... Take their own break and not feel obligated to play wars for fear of letting their members down & in some cases kicked.
B. Everyone gets busy at times & can't play certain days of the week to have something lingering in the back of their head that they must attack for a war they didn't want.
C. Then you have your semi active and not active members who can ruin a war because they decided to no play for some days and they end up screwing the entire clan, unwillingly of course and in some cases on purpose, this will stop people from trolling members & entire clans all together. While giving the option for members who are loyal to the clan to take breaks from wars from time to time.
Enclosing.
I wanted to keep this short... But i'm sure there are some things i didn't mention. But these are the ones important to me as leader of a clan and this is a problem. We go sometimes to war unprepared and missing some members for wars.. But for the sake of keeping the majority of members happy... We war. But a war can go really bad if even 2 members are not going to attack because of "x" reasons. And everyone who participated just lost a very large amount of resources. Especially the ones that use dragons with rage spells.

I am sure every organized clan has this problem from time to time. And would love this option. So that they are not forced to kick players who have been active and loyal for months straight at a time. And are forced to kick them for not being war active and are playing on a semi active level. Notes:: The player / owner of their clan castle will have full power of what they want. But to give the option to the leadership to tweak clan castle to certain troops being donated would save a lot of time.
Example: Bob wanted to give joe. A lvl 4 dragon, and someone gave them 5 archers.... Bob can remove those 5 archers and drop that lvl 4 dragon. Since that lvl 4 dragon would be of much better use.

Thank you for your time on this matter.
Let's get it done.

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i agree you ..even i have posted this ..with title war and loot

I like the opting out of Wars idea. I also think the leader should have control over the war bases if someone leaves after its started so they can replace them with someone of a similar level in the clan. That's the only control I would give leaders. Not over individual bases layouts and troops. If they leave, they cannot rejoin that clan until after the war has finished

You are giving too much power to the leader, what if he is a tyrant

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Originally Posted by haste01

Power should be given to Leaders & CO's to do the following things. To make the game more fun on the war front.

1. Allow leaders co. To manage defences according to how they see fit. Owner of set clan castle still can do what they want for their troops. That being said those people being the leadership know whats best for the clan & should know what defence will work best for a particular clan members base. This will stop unwanted troops from being donated & can be removed by the leader/co's rather than waiting for the owner of that base to do it..... who knows when. This will also stop people that are purposely trying to annoy other members by giving bad troops that have no significant use for a war.

2. Allow the leadership to dictate who goes to war & hand pick the people who want to war. You can give members a tab/vote who want to war. Or let leadership pick who goes... besides they should know who participated 100% of the time in the past.

A. This will fix many things.... on so many levels. It will allow people that want a break from wars... take their own break and not feel obligated to play wars for fear of letting their members down & in some cases kicked.
B. Everyone gets busy at times & can't play certain days of the week to have something lingering in the back of their head that they must attack for a war they didn't want.
C. Then you have your semi active and not active members who can ruin a war because they decided to no play for some days and they end up screwing the entire clan, unwillingly of course and in some cases on purpose, this will stop people from trolling members & entire clans all together. While giving the option for members who are loyal to the clan to take breaks from wars from time to time.
Enclosing.
I wanted to keep this short... but I'm sure there are some things I didn't mention. But these are the ones important to me as leader of a clan and this is a problem. We go sometimes to war unprepared and missing some members for wars.. but for the sake of keeping the majority of members happy... we war. But a war can go really bad if even 2 members are not going to attack because of "x" reasons. And everyone who participated just lost a very large amount of resources. Especially the ones that use dragons with rage spells.

I am sure every organized clan has this problem from time to time. And would love this option. So that they are not forced to kick players who have been active and loyal for months straight at a time. And are forced to kick them for not being war active and are playing on a semi active level. Notes:: The player / owner of their clan castle will have full power of what they want. But to give the option to the leadership to tweak clan castle to certain troops being donated would save a lot of time.
Example: Bob wanted to give Joe. A lvl 4 dragon, and someone gave them 5 archers.... Bob can remove those 5 archers and drop that lvl 4 dragon. Since that lvl 4 dragon would be of much better use.

Thank you for your time on this matter.
Let's get it done.

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The problem is the clan leader will have a particular style of base so practically every base would be the same or similar which means if one person it the opposing clan can beat it then they can all beat it really.