Battle rebalancing: Hogs and Dragons

In early July there was an update where Hogs took a killing hit as they got 1.5 times damage multiplication from giant bombs. This ended the era of the Hogs. From personal experience I have noticed that in Clan Wars the attacks will be all dragon, with only a few delightful exceptions. An all dragon attack is very low risk, and because of the very low risk also very boring. You know that there are the four seeking air mines, but that takes only four dragons out of the twelve in a all dragon attack. There is nothing that could go catastrophically wrong in a all dragon attack.

Risk should be rewarded, and avoidance of risk should be punished. It is not good business if a game turns boring. To save Supercell from ruin, I recommend that the damage per second of the hogs be increased and the dps of the dragons be reduced.

Or maybe the seeking air mine do biger damage to dragons and a splash damage that kills all dragons in a range.

Before, hogs were almost invincible, so that's why they were nerfed. Personally I feel like hogs can't be killed if this was taken back, so sorry no.

Dragons aren't that OP right now in my opinion either, they were when we were in lower leagues, but it's not easy to 3-star with dragons AT ALL

The main issue is that there is not enough variation in Clan Wars attacks. At every TH level there should be several plausible strategies, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. At the moment the only "weakness" of the all dragon attack is the cost, but that is not a real strategic weakness. Battles should be fought with skill, so that with the same composition of army the outcome should be very different with a different player.

I'm not saying that making Hogs stronger is the best or the only way to deal with the issue, I'm dissapointed in how low risk an all dragon attack is and how little skill it requires and how devastating damage it does - you're quite sure to get atleast two stars.

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Originally Posted by erantala

The main issue is that there is not enough variation in Clan Wars attacks. At every TH level there should be several plausible strategies, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. At the moment the only "weakness" of the all dragon attack is the cost, but that is not a real strategic weakness. Battles should be fought with skill, so that with the same composition of army the outcome should be very different with a different player.

I'm not saying that making Hogs stronger is the best or the only way to deal with the issue, I'm dissapointed in how low risk an all dragon attack is and how little skill it requires and how devastating damage it does - you're quite sure to get atleast two stars.

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At TH9 people drag but its stupid, you can't 3 star with drags and if all you want is a 2 star there are much cheaper ways of doing it. I love it when my clan goes up against a drag spam clan. We 3 star half their TH9s with gowipe they 3 star none of ours

Dragons are pretty much worthless after you upgrade your TH to level 9. A well designed base is tricky to even 2-star, whereas 2 or even 3 starring a base with other army compositions is more fun and more reliable.

In fact, I even made a thread once upon a time requesting that Dragons get a buff (of sorts).

This thread, as a matter of fact

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Originally Posted by erantala

In early July there was an update where Hogs took a killing hit as they got 1.5 times damage multiplication from giant bombs. This ended the era of the Hogs. From personal experience I have noticed that in Clan Wars the attacks will be all dragon, with only a few delightful exceptions. An all dragon attack is very low risk, and because of the very low risk also very boring. You know that there are the four seeking air mines, but that takes only four dragons out of the twelve in a all dragon attack. There is nothing that could go catastrophically wrong in a all dragon attack.

Risk should be rewarded, and avoidance of risk should be punished. It is not good business if a game turns boring. To save Supercell from ruin, I recommend that the damage per second of the hogs be increased and the dps of the dragons be reduced.

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the problem with your argument is the combination logical fallacies known as the Texas Sharpshooter and anecdotal. you are cherry-picking specific data used in conjunction with your own personal experience and saying this is true for everyone. you also make a huge generalization of dragon attacks thay they cannot be beaten. this could not be further from the truth. dragons as you know are an air attack, and air defenses, wizard towers, archer towers, teslas, inferno towers, and cross bows all defend against air attacks. i have personally seen a defense stand up to an all dragon attack and suffer only 1 star.

you only bring personal opinion to this argument, some of which is wrong. when you want a game mechanic changed, you need to provide facts and figures. not anecdotes.

your argument is invalid

It's been mentioned in hundreds if not thousands posts that dragons are pretty much useless at th9 or above unless you combine the dragons with balloons then early th9 still can be 3 starred. Dragons are fine the way it is now. Because even mass 12 lvl 4 dragons with 5 spells can't 3 star a good designed th 9

Maybe you need to change your war base.....

No one is saying that Dragons are all powerful at every level, but at TH7 they are OP, and at 8 they are until your air defence is maxed.

Why not move where you can level the dragons, level 2 at TH8 and 3 at TH9? Of coruse I'm well aware the odds of this happening but it would be the simplest solution.