To the low level trophy chasers...

If you're complaining about the match making because you are now being matched with high level opponents, this means you have too many trophies for your level. People have been saying this in response to complaints about being attacked by higher levels since the game began. Now that the match making actually matches you closer to your trophy level, you can no longer "next match" your way to weak bases to increase your trophies.

One would think that instead of complaining, the match making changes would be a wake up call for you. Proof, if you will, about what others have been saying.

YOU HAVE TOO MANY TROPHIES TO SUSTAIN FOR YOUR CURRENT NUMBER OF UPGRADES.

All of those high level bases represent the upgrades you need to stay where you are and to progress any further. It's not unfair. Put in the time/money to grow your base. What's unfair is to expect to be able to have as many trophies as them without putting in the time and effort they did.

The solution for you is to drop your trophies to an appropriate level so you can grow your base. No longer will you farm trophies from the weak to artificially inflate your trophy level above what it should be. You want trophies, you have to play with the big boys now.

Match making based on level or th level should not and will not happen. Level in this game is meaningless and th level matching will cause people to not want to upgrade (similar to the loot situation, but far more severe). This would be very very bad. Likewise artificial controls are not going to be put in place to allow you to match each other unimpeded to the top. This would invalidate the entire point of upgrading your base.

It's becoming almost a matter of faith for you. Despite all of the posts and reasoning about why it won't work and despite the fact that they tested this in beta and it didn't work, you say if you believe hard enough this faulty method of match making would be successful. It wouldn't.

If you can't handle this, and decide to quit, make sure you leave your resource collectors and storages undefended. The more easy to obtain resources there are, the less people will spend on gems. Having people buy less gems is the only way to impact Supercell.

Good points. Matchmaking is finally doing what it is supposed to do.

dahimi, I'm with you 100%. I was actually just about to post something like this myself, but you saved me the trouble.

Rauta clearly stated that SC didn't make the matches harder. It's just that you're now getting matched up closer to your trophy level. If you find that you have a hard time winning at that level, then it means your army isn't up to par yet for you to move up in trophy count. So what do you do now? Upgrade, upgrade, upgrade. I'm not sure why this concept is so hard to grasp for some people.

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Originally Posted by l2djae

dahimi, I'm with you 100%. I was actually just about to post something like this myself, but you saved me the trouble.

Rauta clearly stated that SC didn't make the matches harder. It's just that you're now getting matched up closer to your trophy level. If you find that you have a hard time winning at that level, then it means your army isn't up to par yet for you to move up in trophy count. So what do you do now? Upgrade, upgrade, upgrade. I'm not sure why this concept is so hard to grasp for some people.

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Because they want something for nothing. They rant and rave about "fairness" while trying to promote a level based matching system which would be ridiculously unfair with respect to trophy counts.

Ive only attacked once today with the new set and i have to admit that i used to look for a bit easier targets in the past but so far i think this update is pretty good.

I have what some would consider low T's (1569) for my LVL55 but that's because i didn't just try to run through battles and gain super amounts of T's, i tried to find good bases with good resources so that i could upgrade my stuff.

This new update forced me to fight people that i would normally pass on and guess what, it showed me that i CAN fight these more difficult opponents.

Also one thing that i really like so far is that balance, before the update it would be like win 3 T loose 34, now its like win 24 loose 24, and i feel that is the correct balance. Your win/loss ratio should be a closer balance.

Sure, peeps are going to loose more often now since we have to raid peeps closer to our level but that makes things good, its a nice balance and i think i like it.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

YOU HAVE TOO MANY TROPHIES TO SUSTAIN FOR YOUR CURRENT NUMBER OF UPGRADES.

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I'm sorry but isn't that the point of the game - to work your way up the trophy count while collecting resources and upgrading your base? I am a fairly low level base but I've worked my ♥♥♥ off to get to 2k trophies all the while upgrading anything and everything I could. I make strategic decisions about what to upgrade to enable me to play my game and my builders are always busy. ... but then they go and change the rules (again) and the only solution is for me to trophy drop? Personally I think your line of thought is flawed. It's a race to the top not to the bottom - it's a slow and steady increase in play and ability and I'm sorry but I should be able to pick on people with the same level of town hall (and therefore def) as me and I shouldn't be penalized because I have invested time and effort into the game to increase my trophy levels.

Matches should be based on a persons level not trophy count alone. I have been at 2000 t since level 40 and that shows an active player who upgrades when possible, donates a ton and plays a ton - not someone who trophy dropped for a quick fix to pick on smaller bases. I am looking for a challenging road, not the easy trophy dropping road and certainly not an impossible battle road (as it is with this update).

So no.. I'm not just sitting here and complaining but I think this 'fix' missed an important part of matching (level) which would still enable super bases to attack super bases and for me to continue to work my way up without having to lose the trophies I have worked very hard for.

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Originally Posted by Aimee

I'm sorry but isn't that the point of the game - to work your way up the trophy count while collecting resources and upgrading your base? I am a fairly low level base but I've worked my ♥♥♥ off to get to 2k trophies all the while upgrading anything and everything I could. I make strategic decisions about what to upgrade to enable me to play my game and my builders are always busy. ... but then they go and change the rules (again) and the only solution is for me to trophy drop? Personally I think your line of thought is flawed. It's a race to the top not to the bottom - it's a slow and steady increase in play and ability and I'm sorry but I should be able to pick on people with the same level of town hall (and therefore def) as me and I shouldn't be penalized because I have invested time and effort into the game to increase my trophy levels.

Matches should be based on a persons level not trophy count alone. I have been at 2000 t since level 40 and that shows an active player who upgrades when possible, donates a ton and plays a ton - not someone who trophy dropped for a quick fix to pick on smaller bases. I am looking for a challenging road, not the easy trophy dropping road and certainly not an impossible battle road (as it is with this update).

So no.. I'm not just sitting here and complaining but I think this 'fix' missed an important part of matching (level) which would still enable super bases to attack super bases and for me to continue to work my way up without having to lose the trophies I have worked very hard for.

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No, there is no "point" to the game. Some people like to focus on upgrading their base, some on trophies, others on making silly designs with their walls, and still others who play the game like a puzzle trying to figure out its mechanics. All play styles are valid, and the game is what you make it.

If you want to chase trophies, fine, but trophies are the ranking system. A person with a greater upgraded base then you should have more trophies than you if you're both trophy chasing. Upgrading your base is the path to higher trophies. You should not be able to move up in the ranking system by systematically defeating people with less trophies than you. It was a loophole in the system that permitted low level people to raise their rank 1 or 2 trophies at a time by defeating lots of weaker (sometimes much weaker) opponents.

Do you really think it makes sense to have a ranking system consisting of members who got there by almost exclusively defeating much much weaker opponents and not people of the same rank as them?

As for the level based matching, you are once again preaching gospel. If you want to convince people that level based matching is a way to go you have to counter all of the arguments against it. You can't just preach fairness. These arguments are, in no particular order:

1. Levels are meaningless. Joining a clan gives you exp. Donating troops gives you exp. Winning battles gives you exp. Selling and buying buildings gives (or gave) you exp. Achievement chasing gives you exp. Clearing obstacles gives you exp. These are all activities that mean nothing about how strong you are. Why should matching be based on how many troops you donated or trees you cleared?

2. You people like to preach about fairness and hard work. Matching based on level will allow low level people to advance unimpeded. How is this fair to all of the people that put effort into their bases so that they could compete properly at high trophy levels?

3. What motivation will there be to donate troops or upgrade your base if you know that each experience point you get makes you a bit weaker?

I don't think the fact that I play A Lot, only spend about 5 dollars a week, and gained a butt load of trophies makes me lazy :/
and I have the right to feel bumbed that being lvl 7th with almost 1700 trophies makes me almost Only encounter opponents with xbows- so I am forced back down. I had no clue all the other 1650-1700 T holders were sooooo advanced

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Originally Posted by dahimi

No, there is no "point" to the game. Some people like to focus on upgrading their base, some on trophies, others on making silly designs with their walls, and still others who play the game like a puzzle trying to figure out its mechanics. All play styles are valid, and the game is what you make it.

If you want to chase trophies, fine, but trophies are the ranking system. A person with a greater upgraded base then you should have more trophies than you if you're both trophy chasing. Upgrading your base is the path to higher trophies. You should not be able to move up in the ranking system by systematically defeating people with less trophies than you. It was a loophole in the system that permitted low level people to raise their rank 1 or 2 trophies at a time by defeating lots of weaker (sometimes much weaker) opponents.

Do you really think it makes sense to have a ranking system consisting of members who got there by almost exclusively defeating much much weaker opponents and not people of the same rank as them?

As for the level based matching, you are once again preaching gospel. If you want to convince people that level based matching is a way to go you have to counter all of the arguments against it. You can't just preach fairness. These arguments are, in no particular order:

1. Levels are meaningless. Joining a clan gives you exp. Donating troops gives you exp. Winning battles gives you exp. Selling and buying buildings gives (or gave) you exp. Achievement chasing gives you exp. Clearing obstacles gives you exp. These are all activities that mean nothing about how strong you are. Why should matching be based on how many troops you donated or trees you cleared?

2. You people like to preach about fairness and hard work. Matching based on level will allow low level people to advance unimpeded. How is this fair to all of the people that put effort into their bases so that they could compete properly at high trophy levels?

3. What motivation will there be to donate troops or upgrade your base if you know that each experience point you get makes you a bit weaker?

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everyone had their own 'point' to the game. Now mine is crushed. No T chasing for me. In six months when all my stuff is upgraded, sure I will have more T, but so will everyone else, thus my Rank won't change, unless I spend more $ to quicken my process.

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Originally Posted by Kitkatrehab

I don't think the fact that I play A Lot, only spend about 5 dollars a week, and gained a butt load of trophies makes me lazy :/

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No it makes you foolish. You tried to game the ranking system by defeating tons of lower ranked weaker people and now Supercell is putting the smack down on you by matching you with people of your own rank.

The free lunch is over. If you want trophies you need to spend time building a base that can stand with others of its rank.

Personally I think they shouldn't even give you 1 or 2 trophies for defeating much weaker people. What does it say about a ranking system that is populated at the high end by lots of people that can't even defeat others of the same rank?