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Im a new th9 and I don't have lava hounds.
I just bought lvl6 balloons so they'll be done in 9 days. I have lvl4 minions.
Any tips on how to use Balloonian well? im gonna push to masters soon (2-3 weeks). I've used balloonian at th8 but I never was very good and i haven't used it in forever.
Could anyone provide tips on how to use it effectivly, or what kind of bases i should go for 2 or 3 stars, etc? Would rather not get a bunch of links but beggars can't be choosers :) thanks.
Sorry to bump this, but anyone?
I'm also in a similar place, and haven't been able to 3 star even moderately upgraded town hall 9s. Even some TH8s have prevented 3 stars, if they have cleverly placed seeking / regular air mines.
I'm mainly using this to have a moderately effective war army while I finish up the TH9 elixer upgrades and don't want to spend 800k elixer on 2 max dragon raids.
lotsa youtube videos guys :rolleyes:
Balloon minnion is a 1 star army
I used to take 20 balloons 60 minnions with 1 lightning 1 heal 2 rage
the lightning can be replaced with another rage there mainly for clan castle troops
and its all about getting to 50%
look at archer towers and ait deffence thats all you got to worrie about much like barch take out all the outside buildings
Lvl 6 balloons rock. You will love them.
I am a casual player. I don't have sit down, boosted sessions unless im really pushing for cups (like I am atm). I like using balloonion armies cause I can build an army, sign in when its done, raid a big tough base, rebuild, sign off, and not worry about it for 2 hours. Boosting while pushing requires a spell fact boost and one regular barracks, with balloons stacked in all of them. I'm by no means an expert, but here are my insights on balloonion experiences:
1) always lure. Nothing ruins a balloon raid faster than wizards or minions. A few balloons (2-3) have enough hp to be able to take some hits to pull the cc. Pull them out to a corner and handle accordingly.
If minions or dragon: use a balloon to distract and drop your minions behind to wipe them out. Keep the minions spread to avoid dragon splash damage.
If wizards/archers/witches: use a minion or two (or more if needed) to bunch them up. Send a balloon over them and let the balloon splash wipe them out. It's a lot cheaper than a lightning spell, save a spell slot, and works just as well. Lvl 6 wiz will have very little health left so use a few minions to dispatch them.
2) Balloons can be a bit weird at times. Balloonion strategies rely on spell placement to maximize their effectiveness. Spend time watching YouTube replays or replays of yours and clanmates. Once you understand how they select targets every spell drop will be perfect. Minions have a predictable AI and don't need spells (maybe a rage if you want them to destroy full storages or a townhall?) If you've used them before it is easy to get them to go where you want them to. If not, practice! They are meant to clear outlying buildings, then send the rest behind the balloons to get to the storages/th/guts of a base.
3)Farming: this is what I mention in my first paragraph. Not very quick training, but can find some juicy bases. I like 24 balloons and 50 minions, with 1 rage and 3 heal spells or 2/2 rage/heal. I like crystal 2&3 with this army, some guys in my clan use it successfully in gold 1. Can easily 3 star low-mid th9s and weak th10s l. Look for weaker wiz towers, air defense, and xbows down. Queen isn't normally too much of a bother unless she is Lvl 15+. Keep in mind this is a storage raiding army... If you find a collector base, just use the minions.
I deploy balloons in 2 clustered groups, normally on the "easiest" side of the base or on the side the queen is (this will help pull minions in if the balloon splashes don't kill her first). This is just to crack open the base to get to the storages, which the minions will do. Heal when the group of balloons have hp less than half, placing the heal in front of their path. The rage is meant for a cluster of air defense/up xbow/wiz towers if needed.
4)For trophy pushing/war: it depends. I like 32 balloons and 30 minions with back up minions in the castle. Some of my clan mates prefer 28/40. Others keep the 24/50 farm combo. Try them all out and see how it works. Spells: all rage or 3 rage and a heal. Heros: both are much prefered incase a raid goes south and you need that extra 5%. Or to get to the th.
The bases you pick depend on how far you want to push and what you are comfortable with. I have learned on this latest cup hunt to not be afraid to hit the next button! I've found compact bases are the ones I have the most difficulty with, so I tend to skip them. Spread bases seem to let balloons/minions be unmolested for longer, thus keeping them alive, so I like targeting them. Regardless of the style, go for the 50% unless it has a th you can get to, then you want one side of the base cleared so the heros head straight to the th.
Attack strategy: balloons in a line, with rage spells allowing them to move in. It really depends on the base, because some bases will fall apart if all the balloons are in a solid line. Others require a few waves of balloons or small groups of balloons to clear out air def, wiz towers and archer towers so minions can get 50% (normally unique, non symmetrical bases). Some bases (mainly symmetrical ones) can get attacked from two adjacent sides.
Lure the cc, wipe it out, then drop balloons. Rage is to help propel them to air defenses and infernos. Rage with splash damage does a lot of collateral damage. Heal a pack of balloons if you brought it when needed (normally near the center of the base, don't waste it on disco infernos tho). Use the minions to clean up for 50% or clear everything so there is a path to the th for the heros to 2 star.
Target trophy ranges:
crystal 1-3: avoid infernos, and the random maxed bases you find.
Master 3: avoid disco infernos and max air def. Lvl 4 xbows pointed up normally give me a hard time, so avoid them if you have trouble with them.
Master 1&2: be very picky! Avoid discos and max ad. The max archer towers can be a pain. If you get this far you will spend some time learning (and hopefully not at the expense of too many trophys) that there are bases/layouts you can't raid. There are many styles up here that I instantly next even if the loot is to die for (because I will die trying to get it... No loot, down 28 cups, and no bonus). hopefully you have better luck than me.
Champ: I'm 60 cups away so I don't know what it's like up there. More of the same as master 1 im hoping!
5) practice makes perfect. It took me a long time using balloonion to get comfortable with it. Watch Daddy's YouTube videos. Ask for Clanmates to critque your replays. Practice what you learn. Keep using them, and it will be a powerful army comp for you.
Hope this helps. Good luck!