[Guide] The Math of boosting mines / elixirs & Barracks

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November 19th, 2012
Coolz

[Guide] The Math of boosting mines / elixirs & Barracks

Boosting Barracks:

-Barracks boosting costs 25 gems for 45 minutes duration
-45 minutes of boost saves you time of 135 minutes (2 hrs 15 mins)

Compared to instantizing troops:
-25 gems straight up would saves you 1hr 34 mins
-1 gem saves you 4 mins 6 secs; do that 25 times and you save 1 hr 42 mins

Pros of boosting barracks:
-Saves you some gems (about 25% saving)

Cons of boosting barracks:
-You have to wait 45 minutes to realize the full gain

Mines & Elixirs boosting:
This differs from lv to lv

BIG EDIT!!!!! I just realized that boosting mines / elixir only doubles the production
Lv 11 Mines/ Elixirs boosting
-Boosting costs 20 gems for 6 hours duration for 2x production
-lv 11 mines produces 3000 per hour
-6 hrs of boost will net you 18000 gold/elixir
-1 gem nets you 900 gold/elixir

Compared to instant gold/elixir
-2000 gems will get you 6 Million of gold/elixir (1 gem = 3000)
-1133 gems will get you 3 Million of gold/elixir (1 gem = 2647)
-389 gems will get you 600K of gold/elixir (1 gem = 1542)

Conclusion:
- Never boost your mines / elixirs
- Instant gold/elixir gets cheaper the more you buy (bulk discount)
- Boosting gold/elixir requires you to wait 6 hours to realize the profit
November 19th, 2012
baldiesrt

thanks for writing this up.

I havent done it yet, so in theory i just have to boost 1 barrack and i constantly get troops pumping out? for 45 mins?
November 19th, 2012
velkanius

Barracks boosting calculation
-Barracks boosting costs 25 gems for 45 minutes duration
-45 minutes of boost saves you time of 135 minutes (2 hrs 15 mins)
boost duration: 45 minutes
boosting speed: 4X

in barracks, 1 gem = 4mins, 06 secs.
the gem price for 135 minutes would be: approximately 33 gems
Conclusion: as expected, it is cheaper to go for the decreaed waiting times (25%)

Resource boosting
On a goldmine level 11:
normal speed: 3000/hour
boost speed: 6000/hour
boost duration: 6 hours
boosting speed: 2X
18000 profit
cost: 20 gems

Buy 18000 gold costs 12,6 gems
Conclusion: new method is cheaper than buying for the treasure menu. (47,4%)

Personally I am now changing from spending gems on insta-troups to the new barracks boosting. I don't mind waiting a little bit and saves me 25%. Spending gems on building troops is the most profitable vs all other methods if you are farming.
November 19th, 2012
velkanius

Thx for the heads up coolz, i was doing exactly the same. :p
You can verify and take my math and put it in your post so it will be easier to find for people.
November 19th, 2012
Coolz

Quote:

Originally Posted by baldiesrt

thanks for writing this up.

I havent done it yet, so in theory i just have to boost 1 barrack and i constantly get troops pumping out? for 45 mins?

Yes the speed x 4
A barbarian will take 5 secs each to make
the time saving is 45 minutes x 3 = 135 minutes

Its a small saving IMO compared to just instantizing ur troops
with boosting you have to wait 45 minutes to realize your 135 minutes saving
with instantizing, well its instant!
November 19th, 2012
velkanius

Quote:

Its a small saving IMO compared to just instantizing ur troops
with boosting you have to wait 45 minutes to realize your 135 minutes saving
with instantizing, well its instant!

True, it is a difference of 25%

All comes down to how much gems you want to spend.
If you have some time, playing with the booster for an evening would be good to save up a bit on the gems.

Of course, instant is instant joy, cash and clash!
November 19th, 2012
Smirnoff

Calculation error

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coolz

Boosting Barracks:

-Barracks boosting costs 25 gems for 45 minutes duration
-45 minutes of boost saves you time of 135 minutes (2 hrs 15 mins)

Compared to instantizing troops:
-25 gems straight up would saves you 1hr 34 mins
-1 gem saves you 4 mins 6 secs; do that 25 times and you save 1 hr 42 mins

Mines & Elixirs boosting:
This differs from lv to lv

Lv 11 Mines/ Elixirs boosting
-Boosting costs 20?? gems for 6 hours duration
-6 hrs of boost will net you 54000 gold/elixir

Compared to instant gold/elixir
-2000 gems will get you 6 Million of gold/elixir

Still preparing and writing

When boosting gold mines it is only x2 boost not x4.

Boosted gold mine will generate at 6000 per hour. The incremental increase for the 20 gems is 3000x6 which is 18000 gold for 20 gems and a 6 hour wait.
November 19th, 2012
wicKedShaydes

Quote:

Originally Posted by velkanius

Personally I am now changing from spending gems on insta-troups to the new barracks boosting. I don't mind waiting a little bit and saves me 25%.

You say this like u still have an option lol

My issue is that I only insta-trooped ocassionally and only when it was around 5gemz, like for the last 10minz of my dragon training. Now with that option gone and this new expensive boosting in place the minimum I can spend for any help with long train times is 25gemz.
I would have much preferred them to keep the option of either open. Then again they want u spending 25...not a mere 5, clearly.
I'm not shopping at Cosco here...I dont need Balk buying discounts lol soundz like a commercial, 'Take the whole boost and save 25% today!'
November 19th, 2012
Smirnoff

Insta troop

Quote:

Originally Posted by wicKedShaydes

You say this like u still have an option lol

My issue is that I only insta-trooped ocassionally and only when it was around 5gemz, like for the last 10minz of my dragon training. Now with that option gone and this new expensive boosting in place the minimum I can spend for any help with long train times is 25gemz.
I would have much preferred them to keep the option of either open. Then again they want u spending 25...not a mere 5, clearly.
I'm not shopping at Cosco here...I dont need Balk buying discounts lol soundz like a commercial, 'Take the whole boost and save 25% today!'

Am I missing something. I can still insta troop on my barracks. Doesn't seem to have changed for me 8 gems for 25 minute/60 archers.
November 19th, 2012
Coolz

Quote:

Originally Posted by velkanius

Thx for the heads up coolz, i was doing exactly the same. :p
You can verify and take my math and put it in your post so it will be easier to find for people.

Your calculations and mine are generally the same :D
Buying gold/ elixir depends if your buying in small quantity or big quantity
November 19th, 2012
PrincessJade

Quote:

Originally Posted by wicKedShaydes

You say this like u still have an option lol

My issue is that I only insta-trooped ocassionally and only when it was around 5gemz, like for the last 10minz of my dragon training. Now with that option gone and this new expensive boosting in place the minimum I can spend for any help with long train times is 25gemz.
I would have much preferred them to keep the option of either open. Then again they want u spending 25...not a mere 5, clearly.
I'm not shopping at Cosco here...I dont need Balk buying discounts lol soundz like a commercial, 'Take the whole boost and save 25% today!'

I could be wrong, but it still appears I have the ability to use the "5 gem" insta-troops option.
November 19th, 2012
Bonehead

I think the saving is way too small 25% and that is if you use it ALL the time...

I have had issues where I for some reason searched and didn’t attack I would then waste some of that “extra” time (assuming that you attack with a full army) making it between 0-25% gain.
November 19th, 2012
Coolz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smirnoff

When boosting gold mines it is only x2 boost not x4.

Boosted gold mine will generate at 6000 per hour. The incremental increase for the 20 gems is 3000x6 which is 18000 gold for 20 gems and a 6 hour wait.

Whattt theeeee $$$$$$
you're right!!!! I just checked and its only 2x production

Need to edit my guide

Boosting mines n elixir is a RIP-OFF
November 19th, 2012
P4TR1C14N

Strong words Coolz, but if true... tsss Supercell.
November 19th, 2012
Smirnoff

I'll let coolz add the maths but he is right. At x4 it's a marginal close call at x2 it's a load of ****** *******.
November 19th, 2012
stardom

good thing i did not boost my mines yet :p
November 19th, 2012
PrincessJade

Given issues like the time it takes to find a suitable opponent worth attacking, is boosting a barracks worth it?

I constantly get the "unable to find a village to attack" error message, so at times it can take me 5-10 minutes simply trying to find someone worth attacking.
November 19th, 2012
stardom

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrincessJade

Given issues like the time it takes to find a suitable opponent worth attacking, is boosting a barracks worth it?

I constantly get the "unable to find a village to attack" error message, so at times it can take me 5-10 minutes simply trying to find someone worth attacking.

im boosting my barracks and i think is worth the gems
you can farm quick hehehe
November 19th, 2012
wicKedShaydes

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrincessJade

I could be wrong, but it still appears I have the ability to use the "5 gem" insta-troops option.

Well look at that, it's back! I say 'back' becuz that was the first thing I looked for after update and it was not there. Maybe it was temporary glitch that corrected itself but I know when I posted my original answer this morning it was gone.

I'm a very happy raider now :) thnx for postin back...glad I actually checked back on this thread. Cheerz!

oh and I agree with your concernz on wasted time while seraching for an attack, itz going to take sum time for us all to balance out our troph amountz so we can start finding good raids again, not to mention it alwayz takes at least 5-10mins per cycle anyway. Maybe they will be generous and actually give us the full hour! not sure if thatz enuff to sway me still but just seems a little cheap cutting it back to a mere 45.
November 19th, 2012
dahimi

Quote:

Originally Posted by wicKedShaydes

Well look at that, it's back! I say 'back' becuz that was the first thing I looked for after update and it was not there. Maybe it was temporary glitch that corrected itself but I know when I posted my original answer this morning it was gone.

I'm a very happy raider now :) thnx for postin back...glad I actually checked back on this thread. Cheerz!

oh and I agree with your concernz on wasted time while seraching for an attack, itz going to take sum time for us all to balance out our troph amountz so we can start finding good raids again, not to mention it alwayz takes at least 5-10mins per cycle anyway. Maybe they will be generous and actually give us the full hour! not sure if thatz enuff to sway me still but just seems a little cheap cutting it back to a mere 45.

I think it disappears when you fill your queue higher than your camp capacity.

I too think the boosts should be longer. 20 (21?) gems for a level 11 mine to produce 18k more elixir is nuts. That's 900 gold per gem. The wholesale price of gold is 3000g for 1 gem. The boosts should be a least 24 hrs. That way you get a bit more gold per gem, but it takes you longer to get it (you have to wait a day), and you of course have to protect it.
November 20th, 2012
Coolz

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahimi

I think it disappears when you fill your queue higher than your camp capacity.

I too think the boosts should be longer. 20 (21?) gems for a level 11 mine to produce 18k more elixir is nuts. That's 900 gold per gem. The wholesale price of gold is 3000g for 1 gem. The boosts should be a least 24 hrs. That way you get a bit more gold per gem, but it takes you longer to get it (you have to wait a day), and you of course have to protect it.

I agree man
900 gold per gem is totally not worth it
coupled that with waiting 6 hrs, and potential for it to be raided if you forgot to collect the resources
November 21st, 2012
Coolz

Bump this up!
November 21st, 2012
FunWorld

Good info

Good info, thx
December 12th, 2012
Sneakydave

wish I had taken the time to re-read this lol
December 12th, 2012
Coolz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sneakydave

wish I had taken the time to re-read this lol

Ahaha
small loss its ok :)
February 10th, 2013
civilian

Math for 8million gold

Has anyone done the math with the 8,001,000 gold/elixir capacity? I guess compared to buying gems in bulk..
May 3rd, 2013
Steeem

Bump for longer boosting activation times ! Make it at least 1h preferably 1h30 mins more people would use them more $$$$ to you supercell!
May 7th, 2013
ChiefBill

Good job for posting. Very helpful to those who do not yet know this.
July 1st, 2013
Powpow2012

I just read this faq and accidentally saw a high level player with all mines boosted.
It's almost 2 days when i saw it last friday night and until now all his miners (elix and gold) are glowing and with full Elix and Gold storage.
July 1st, 2013
daz258

Interesting read. Have conditions changed since the was originally done?

Boosting mines/collectors clearly appears to be a waste under those detailed.
July 1st, 2013
SuperJia

I think boosting barracks will save u more if u train big troops , but if u train small troops or fast troops , u will waste times when u looking for a match n attacking time , if u spent 3mn mean u lose 3x4= 12mn
July 1st, 2013
Aprixius

Was there a point to bumping this thread?
Well i guess its useful info but still.
July 1st, 2013
BonbeeTyrael

Is this one person Necro-ing all these threads?
July 1st, 2013
Aprixius

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

Is this one person Necro-ing all these threads?

i guess
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July 1st, 2013
Powpow2012

Is there an issue to bump a thread?
I just want to know if there's some changes.
But still, this thread is usefull.
October 28th, 2013
MiddleTown

Bossting Barracks

When boosting barracks, the only thing that happens is that it bosst the troops training time and makes it 4 times faster. Example: If it takes your troops 80 mins (1 h 20 min) to train, and you boost your barrack, it will take 20 mins instead of 80 mins. But you should only boost if ur going to raid constantly for 45 mins, or less you'll waste gems. Therefore, It's not necessary to bosst your barrack if you're only going to do 1 raid and then log off. So instead of boosting barracks for 45 mins, when you're only going to do 1 raid, finish the troops right away instead of wasting gems on bossting.
October 28th, 2013
MiddleTown

Boosting Barracks

When boosting barracks, the only thing that happens is that it bosst the troops training time and makes it 4 times faster. Example: If it takes your troops 80 mins (1 h 20 min) to train, and you boost your barrack, it will take 20 mins instead of 80 mins. But you should only boost if ur going to raid constantly for 45 mins, or less you'll waste gems. Therefore, It's not necessary to bosst your barrack if you're only going to do 1 raid and then log off. So instead of boosting barracks for 45 mins, when you're only going to do 1 raid, finish the troops right away instead of wasting gems on bossting.
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October 28th, 2013
AUZZY

Wow, good thread bro
October 28th, 2013
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October 28th, 2013
Giggitygoo

I'd like to add something to the discussion. I've used gems to boost barracks twice in my CoC-carreer for an intensive 45 minutes of raiding. I found a couple of things:

1) If you use tier 1 groups, boosting 4 barracks is actually not efficient. Collector hunting usually costs only between 20-80% of your army. Building a full Barch army (TH9) with boosted barracks takes 5 minutes. Build finishing will actually exceed your ability to find a target and effectivly use your troops on more than a few occasions, thus wasting gemmed time. This effect is even more true if you use BAM.
2) Since cooking troops is inherent to boosting barracks you get the best effect with lvl9+ barracks, preferrably lvl10 because of their larger building queue. Otherwise you again waste gemmed time if your search + raid time exceeds build time.

Specifically because of the first reason I think it's more gem-efficient to boost only 2 barracks. Half the gems, same effect if you are an efficient barch/bam-farmer.
January 8th, 2014
StMichael

IMPORTANT! Resource boosting now pays off!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coolz

Boosting Barracks:

Mines & Elixirs boosting:
This differs from lv to lv

BIG EDIT!!!!! I just realized that boosting mines / elixir only doubles the production
Lv 11 Mines/ Elixirs boosting
-Boosting costs 20 gems for 6 hours duration for 2x production
-lv 11 mines produces 3000 per hour
-6 hrs of boost will net you 18000 gold/elixir
-1 gem nets you 900 gold/elixir

Compared to instant gold/elixir
-2000 gems will get you 6 Million of gold/elixir (1 gem = 3000)
-1133 gems will get you 3 Million of gold/elixir (1 gem = 2647)
-389 gems will get you 600K of gold/elixir (1 gem = 1542)

Conclusion:
- Never boost your mines / elixirs
- Instant gold/elixir gets cheaper the more you buy (bulk discount)
- Boosting gold/elixir requires you to wait 6 hours to realize the profit

Not true anymore!

after the post x-mas update Jan 8 2014 mines and elix boost costs 11 gems for 24 hours.
3000x24h=72000
72000/11 gems = 6545,5

Conclusion: Now you get more than DOUBLE the resources when boosting mines/elix compared to buying them with gems!
(if I'm not totally wrong!)

Now let's just hope it stays that way!
January 8th, 2014
Gunnermatt

Why does this thread get necroed so much?
January 8th, 2014
Grantb123

Would a mod plz close this zombie thread if u look at orignal post it says november 2012!!!! 2012!!!!!!!!!!!
January 8th, 2014
Dahemkiller18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coolz

Yes the speed x 4
A barbarian will take 5 secs each to make
the time saving is 45 minutes x 3 = 135 minutes

Its a small saving IMO compared to just instantizing ur troops
with boosting you have to wait 45 minutes to realize your 135 minutes saving
with instantizing, well its instant!

when u have big army troops

examply 8 wiz 20 hogs rest archers i just boost 1 barack and a d.e baracks

and it saves me so much time i do raids a lot faster takes me only 15 min to get my army full
January 9th, 2014
agr1014

Neat. Wish I would've seen this before boost ended, lol. :D
January 9th, 2014
MoonDawg

Wow this is an old thread and some of the info is way out of date lol ik for over 6 months now boosting lvl 11 collectors is way cheaper than buying the rss up front from the store. It's about a 50% discount for 11 gems per collectors for 24 hrs
January 9th, 2014
ThatoneguyIknow

Quote:

Originally Posted by StMichael

Not true anymore!

after the post x-mas update Jan 8 2014 mines and elix boost costs 11 gems for 24 hours.
3000x24h=72000
72000/11 gems = 6545,5

Conclusion: Now you get more than DOUBLE the resources when boosting mines/elix compared to buying them with gems!
(if I'm not totally wrong!)

Now let's just hope it stays that way!

Let's not bump threads anymore shall we?
January 9th, 2014
StMichael

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatoneguyIknow

Let's not bump threads anymore shall we?

Well.
Dude.
Sorry for wasting your precious time by bumping this thread.

But since this forum is searchable by less experienced people than yourself.... and has top Google ranking... people who search for topics on resource boosting will end up here. And since all info they get among the top search 10 results is saying "do not boost!" ( like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Oy4LzCHJA), I just wanted to help out.

The best thing would be if SC closed this thread like Grantb123 suggested!
January 9th, 2014
bruc3y

Quote:

Originally Posted by StMichael

Well.
Dude.
Sorry for wasting your precious time by bumping this thread.

But since this forum is searchable by less experienced people than yourself.... and has top Google ranking... people who search for topics on resource boosting will end up here. And since all info they get among the top search 10 results is saying "do not boost!" ( like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Oy4LzCHJA), I just wanted to help out.

The best thing would be if SC closed this thread like Grantb123 suggested!

Thanks for bumping. I found t helpful.
June 13th, 2014
JacksRage

Quote:

Originally Posted by StMichael

Not true anymore!

after the post x-mas update Jan 8 2014 mines and elix boost costs 11 gems for 24 hours.
3000x24h=72000
72000/11 gems = 6545,5

Conclusion: Now you get more than DOUBLE the resources when boosting mines/elix compared to buying them with gems!
(if I'm not totally wrong!)

Now let's just hope it stays that way!

Thanks for confirming what I was figuring too.
June 13th, 2014
chuckmorris

Quote:

Originally Posted by JacksRage

Thanks for confirming what I was figuring too.

Please do not bump 5 month old threads.
June 13th, 2014
nerf713

This thread is old! Somebody bumped it!:(
June 13th, 2014
BonbeeTyrael

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckmorris

Please do not bump 5 month old threads.

This is a lot more than 5 months old. Unless it's 2013 right now.
June 13th, 2014
JacksRage

Wait.... Did everybody else hear that? A bunch of cry babies whinning over somebody making a post that they felt like sharing. Short of me physically causing you harm, stop crying.
June 13th, 2014
BonbeeTyrael

Quote:

Originally Posted by JacksRage

Wait.... Did everybody else hear that? A bunch of cry babies whinning over somebody making a post that they felt like sharing. Short of me physically causing you harm, stop crying.

Actually it is against forum policy to bump dead threads. If you want to discuss it make a new thread. This one will be closed.
June 13th, 2014
Palalay

Your too smart for us bro :rolleyes:
June 13th, 2014
JacksRage

A bump is a post with no meaning thats purpose is the move the thread up. I commented, not bumped. And, it's free game till it's closed.
June 13th, 2014
Natesmiles

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

Actually it is against forum policy to bump dead threads. If you want to discuss it make a new thread. This one will be closed.

define bump?

I read what i thought was a good reply after the changes.
June 13th, 2014
BonbeeTyrael

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natesmiles

define bump?

I read what i thought was a good reply after the changes.

The good reply was not the one that bumped the thread from lord knows how many pages back.

A bump is any no relavant addition to a thread purely to bring it back to the top. It can be anything from "I agree" to "bump".

And it is forum policy that for outdated threads like this you just make a new one to discuss it since most of the players talking in this thread no longer use the forums and it has been changed since this thread was made in 2012.
June 13th, 2014
oldman

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

And it is forum policy that for outdated threads like this you just make a new one to discuss it since most of the players talking in this thread no longer use the forums and it has been changed since this thread was made in 2012.

I didn't see that in any of the rules, AND, when one starts a thread that has been discussed in the past the "search monitors" start screaming.:rolleyes:
June 13th, 2014
BonbeeTyrael

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman

I didn't see that in any of the rules, AND, when one starts a thread that has been discussed in the past the "search monitors" start screaming.:rolleyes:

This is old enough that noone would complain because noone remembers it. It's not in the rules but necro-ed threads get locked 99.9% of the time.
June 13th, 2014
oldman

OK, I'll remember that......
June 13th, 2014
chuckmorris

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSofJetlife

This is a lot more than 5 months old. Unless it's 2013 right now.

Whoops my bad. Didn't read carefully enough lol.:p
December 30th, 2014
WizChip

When the subjects hot...

For those people that are continually posting to this thread about bringing up an old thread are the problem to this thread, over the people talking about the NEVER CHANGING data in this subject.

I read that one or two even mentioned to OPEN ANOTHER THREAD.. Why? so we can go read through many instead of one?

Your comments about bringing up a never changing data on a valid thread from 2012 ruins the thread itself. I came for this knowledge.. and I am GLAD that we have old data and NEW data to support the math that we do as we enjoy playing this game.

This is not a race to see if we can build threads, but rather consolidate information.

Thank you for the updated math.
December 30th, 2014
sj74

Quote:

Originally Posted by WizChip

For those people that are continually posting to this thread about bringing up an old thread are the problem to this thread, over the people talking about the NEVER CHANGING data in this subject.

I read that one or two even mentioned to OPEN ANOTHER THREAD.. Why? so we can go read through many instead of one?

Your comments about bringing up a never changing data on a valid thread from 2012 ruins the thread itself. I came for this knowledge.. and I am GLAD that we have old data and NEW data to support the math that we do as we enjoy playing this game.

This is not a race to see if we can build threads, but rather consolidate information.

Thank you for the updated math.

10000 Whats?
December 30th, 2014
vekool

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December 30th, 2014
GoWiWi

[RANT]

STOP BUMPING THIS OLD THREAD. IF YOU HAVE OLD INFO GREAT, LIVE IT COMPARE BY CREATING A NEW THREAD.

[/RANT]

Lol I've cooled down but PLEASE don't bump these old threads especially if they have NO relevance

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